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Maureen Dowd: Bill Clinton Lobbied Gov. Paterson To Keep Caroline Kennedy Out Of Senate

Maureen Dowd: Bill Clinton Lobbied Gov. Paterson To Keep Caroline Kennedy Out Of Senate

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 05:52:35 in Politics

“like ms. kennedy, needed a vengeful president clinton, to derail her appointment to replace hillary clinton as senator---given that besides being the kennedy she is, she was unable to show she had any polticial or social history, or the temperment­--remember the badly arrogant showing she made with reporters from the nyt at an upper east side restaurant---which qualified her to be appointed senator.

one prolbem with maureen dowd is that she llikes to subsitute sharp digs and gossip for serious commentary and this jibe at bil clinton--who apparently still gets to her--is she attracted to him?--who knows?__is typical of the lapses into people magazine rag that she lapses into

let''s all remember that ms, dowd was the one who lectured us all after the gore/cheney vp debate, that cheney was he only "adult" in the race and that while rome was burning ms, dowd informed us all on why gore needed to alpha up gonads, and didn't know who he was because he altered his tie and suit for his presidential campaign, well thank yoiu maureen dowd for being such a clever commmentator in the past, we got the adult candidate, even though this daddy turned out to be the kind of daddy to the nation who abused it and the candidate who was all alpha and no brains, george bush!

i haven;t read, or given maureen dowd any serious attention since 2000 when she showed what a clown she really is.”
David Brooks: Palin's A 'Joke,' A 'Potential Talk Show Host' (VIDEO)

David Brooks: Palin's A 'Joke,' A 'Potential Talk Show Host' (VIDEO)

Commented Nov 16, 2009 at 10:40:52 in Politics

“why is this even on huffington post? who gives a good darn what the heck this thinks about anything!
he's an elitist self-promoting, unimportant failed neo-con. he no longer seems able to bounce around from one sunday entertainnews show to another on the weekends, and it is rather silly, but downright annyouing to see huffington post pay him any attention here. he should go quietly into this good night, like the neo-con elders who helped give birth to him, and huffington and nyt might be asked in these difficult times for online and printed media, why they are loading themselves down with this useless dead weight!”

LiberalFromDenver replied on Nov 16, 2009 at 12:59:18

“He's not a neo-con.”

dreyfussx replied on Nov 16, 2009 at 11:47:39

“Agreed - Brooks fawns over and would fel1ate J McCain if given a chance - he seems to conveniently forget that his beloved McCain is the person who elevated the cluelessmoose to national stature”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Social Service Programs For D.C.'s Neediest If Gay Marriage Passes

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Social Service Programs For D.C.'s Neediest If Gay Marriage Passes

Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 10:02:54 in Politics

“this threat by the catholic church , is just the latest example of how far it has strayed .


it would rather defeat healtcare reform, than let civil lawmakers achieve it.


how many centuries has it been since the catholic church, acted like, the church of christ, bulit on the rock--petros!

on abortion, gay rights,, even divorce and contraception through the consistent voice of its popes,, the church preeches that its voice cannot bend to the evils intrinisic in the modern world.


but the same chuch that speaks and acts so stridenly against civil rights, which derive from civil liberty graned by god's grace to humans of free will with inallienable civil liberties, has sorted history of being on the worng side of social order for most of its history.

two grave examples are its support of colonialism and its history of antisemtic teachings. it blessed the events that caused the destruciton of millions of native new world lives, and it lead the spanish inquisiiton and made a concordat with the third reich of the holocaust. both lead to the destruciton of millions of jewish lives and thousands of jewish communities. and to this day adolf hitler remains an non=excommunicated roman catholic!

it is not anticatholic to give voice to the real teachings of christ and remind us that he denoucned a priestly body that lived in wealth and power, and taught us all that it is an eror to serve ceaser, for by doing so you cannot serve god!”
Sharon McDonough's Home Was An Animal 'Concentration Camp': Son

Sharon McDonough's Home Was An Animal 'Concentration Camp': Son

Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 07:58:29 in New York

“am i missing something? who is this person? is she famous, a celebrity i don't know about? if so, then good for me, for being so out of it--that i still can't track the majority of names that float around for five minutes at a time in popular culture, even on the section reserved here for such people magazine style reportage.

but if not, then why does an unknown person's crime start with lead headlines beginning with her name as if we were reading that madonna, bette davis, joan crawford, queen elizabeth ll, elizabeth taylor, or any other person geneally knon to the publilc was the subject of this story!

is the need for celeb headlines so strained by the escalating media outlets, that we need to treat crime stories by unkowns with headlines as though they too were celebs.

and all this aside, anyone who mistreats an animal, should do serious prison time, and if i believed in the death penalty, which i don't--i would support it for torturing or murdering animals!

and, why it is legal for pet owners to have vets kill their pet if it is not working out, pisses in the wrong place, barks too much, scratches too much, etc.

shouldn't all the pet owners who do this, or abandon or dump pets when they have decided they don;t want them any longer, also be criminallized. and shouldn;t it be against the law for vets, to have to kill healthy animals.”
Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing

Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing

Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 07:37:15 in Politics

“and don't just stop there--you don't really think that just because the mormon church officialy condems persons who are gay or lesbian, that the mormons are any different than the rest of the human race, or for that matter, the rest of the self-righteous relgious right who preach ani-gay hate, but luv having sex with other men and othe women. so to ammend your scripts above,

and between a man and a woman
and between a man and a woman and a woman
and beteween a man and a woman and many woman
and between a man and a woman and whatever it takes--annonymous male sex encounters, male prostitutes, boyfreinds--on the side!

give me that old time religion!”

floridafun replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 08:13:53

“good post! when is teddy haggert gonna run for office ;-)”
Melody Barnes, Obama Adviser, Offers Sympathy For Gay Marriage

Melody Barnes, Obama Adviser, Offers Sympathy For Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 20:28:35 in Politics

“to ms. barnes we say simply, tell your boss, that in lieu of flowers and sympathy, send leglisation and executive orders, to end don't ask, don't tell and doma.”
Hillary Clinton Has Intense Exchange With Students In Pakistan

Hillary Clinton Has Intense Exchange With Students In Pakistan

Commented Oct 30, 2009 at 08:35:25 in Politics

“i find seeing the united states secretary of state dressed up for a halloween as a praciticing muslim, a disturbing and unsatisfactory image and one that fails to mirror the constitution of our own united states which separates religion and state.

while it can be argued that such attire, is intended to signal respect for islamic culure, it makes our secretary of state gender identified, in a country that is sexist to the core, as defined by relgious and civil law--often 1 and the same---and fails to uphold ouir own hard won evolving culture, that women should have gender equality in all aspects of public and private life.

to see mrs, clinton defined first as a woman, and only secondly as the secretary of state of the united states, by her submission to islamic dress codes for women, is to suggest that she will not be dealt with, and this country will not be represented as well as by male secretary of state in its deallings with islamic nations.

had secretary of state clinton met with islamic clerics in pakistan, and donned a veil, as she might have to meet the pope, that would signal only a proper respect for the religious figures

to address students publicly and need to adopt attire not in keeping with the normal attire of her high office, makes our own cutlural values look varaiable and ms. clinton look as though she dressed up for a halloween party!”
Obama Family Photo By Annie Leibovitz Released

Obama Family Photo By Annie Leibovitz Released

Commented Oct 23, 2009 at 17:44:55 in Style

“its a study in vulgarity. in the depression eleanor roosevelt could't be persuaded to replace the tattered and worn draperies in the white house, because of the economic hardship of oridnary americans. now we have president obama, in another picking the chic bankruptcy annie, who between dealing her near $50 million copyright and real estate deals, has time enough to bring down a presidency to her vulgar level.

all smiles for the obamas here. thank god the Queen knew better and did show annoyance at having the offical regalia of the order of the garter, and one of her offical crowns, used as nothing more than props for the egoistic and obviously, rather uninformed, and provincial miss annie!”

AmberGaze replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 19:05:31

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Kristopher Wright replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 18:03:55

“"Provincial Miss Annie" was my second favorite musical from 1923.”

1Woman4Obama replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 18:03:41

“What in this picture strikes you as vulgar? The color of their skin?”

ywcachieve replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 17:56:40

“Are you on some medication that you skipped this morning? Seriously!”

SensibleOne replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 17:56:40

“Wondering where you got your drugs.”

neocon666 replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 17:56:22

“You should be careful; the Men in Black can track you through your postings.”

JanPoore replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 17:54:43

“WOW - You seem to have gone off your meds. You make no sense at all.”

GAPeach99 replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 17:52:05

“Are you high?”

Lucy0808 replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 17:49:27

“What in the world are you talking about?

This is a picture of our President and his family. The vulgarity is in you and you are just projecting.

There are many artists who aren't perfect and still do good art. In fact, I would say that is true of almost every artist. This has nothing to do with this picture.

Please grow up.”

BillyPilgram57 replied on Oct 23, 2009 at 17:48:25

“Hurry! You are going to miss your ride back to Mars.”
Greta Van Susteren Fights Back Against Claims About Fox News (VIDEO)

Greta Van Susteren Fights Back Against Claims About Fox News (VIDEO)

Commented Oct 20, 2009 at 12:42:29 in Media

“if it weren't so sad, it would be a farce. is there anyone, except the brainwashed, unwashed, right wing neo-cons and so-called "christiens"--as though we all live in the 2nc century roman empire, with the barbarians at the gates and pagans surrounding them--who might think that fox news is nothing but a murdoch poltical machine designed from the get go, to push his politcal views wrapped up in news reporting. its not even debatable--does anyone remmeber how former cnn and msnbc comentators and so-called reporters, used to make fun of how slezzy fox was, before they themsleves ended up there as the cable game of last resort for them to stay on the air. do the names”
Roman Polanski Undergoing Medical Tests

Roman Polanski Undergoing Medical Tests

Commented Oct 18, 2009 at 21:39:19 in Entertainment

“such conveinient moralists, and yet no trace of the ehticist in any of your hate polanski comments.
until a trial is conducted under usa law and a defendent has been convicted of the crimem he is innocment, until proven guilty!

and if a defendent agrees to plea bargaining and admit guilt , he has not been found guilty by a jury of his peers .in the polanski case, as documented, the district attorny warned polanksi's lawyer they the judge was going to sentence him ot prsion time, despite the plea bargain deal.
that doublecross has left a detrimental guilty plea from polanksi, the harm of which is demonstrated by your pre-conceived notions of his guilt,

whenever i hear from moralists about how a crime is so hideious as to override the consideration of law, i am reminded that moralists are but one step from the mob, and the mob is always but one step away from all our fates,o

only, under the equal and due process application of law---even and especially when dealing with defendents rights and the moralissts who would pre-judge them is each of our rights protected, , witout regard to the outcome of a speficif defendents fate!”

CrisOmg replied on Oct 19, 2009 at 01:12:31

“He waived his right to a trial when he pleaded guilty. He didn't need to be found guilty by a jury of his peers. He went ahead and admitted his guilt.

Here is what the judge said, ""Inasmuch as the defendant has been CONVICTED of a felony sex offense involving a child under the age of 14 years..." You would think that if he hadn't actually been convicted, his lawyer - who was present - would have said as much.

And whatever the judge may have said, it wasn't a doublecross. A judge IS NOT BOUND by the agreed terms of a plea bargain. During the plea hearing Mr. Polanski was told as much and agreed to those terms.”

roshni replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 23:12:18

“You are off in so many ways:
a) he pled down escaping the most serious charges
b) he pled guilty and negotiated a non-binding plea deal
c) the judge, who is allowed to throw out the deal, threw it out
d) Polanski could have re-opened the trial process, but he chose to skip the country before sentencing
He is a felon and an admitted child rap.ist.”

SaulBloodworth replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 23:06:02

“I hope you appreaciate the same kind of mindfcking when your child is raped.”

gunnergoz replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 22:36:02

“Get your facts straight first, Lord High Horse. He's already pled guilty and was awaiting sentencing.”

liarsclub75 replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 21:49:42

“He already pleaded guilty!”

Benderknows replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 21:46:57

“He is a convicted and self-admitted felon. His crime is not only against a child, but is an affront to a decent society. Maybe you had a problem with Daddy when you were a kid.”

JePense replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 21:44:27

“How can you say such a thing?

Polanski plead guilty in a U.S. court and admitted to the crimes.

Then he became a fugitive because he was afraid he wouldn't like the sentence.”
Mary Landrieu Talks Nonsense:

Mary Landrieu Talks Nonsense: "When People Hear Public Option They Hear Free Health Care"

Commented Oct 18, 2009 at 05:40:47 in Politics

“what dumb broad!”

rcruss replied on Oct 20, 2009 at 12:44:02

“I don't want free health care...how­ever, I would like the same that she has....wha­t a dummy she is...I am tired of these dems., that pretend to be a dem....let­s vote with our money her a#@ out when the time comes if she votes against a public option”
Tea Partiers Turn On GOP Leadership

Tea Partiers Turn On GOP Leadership

Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 16:34:41 in Politics

“willl the republican party now its own night of the long knives soon to stop the tea partier brownshirts that they created to defeat real economoic reform and stimulus and real healhcare reform this summer. like hitler's sa there comes a time when the monster you unleash on the streets to squelch the democracy you despise, becomes as unsafe to its party own party leaders, as it was to the democracy it was set upon to disrupt!.”
NBC Reporter: Obama White House Views Gay Rights Protesters As 'Internet Left Fringe' (VIDEO)

NBC Reporter: Obama White House Views Gay Rights Protesters As 'Internet Left Fringe' (VIDEO)

Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 06:41:33 in Media

“and roas parks, martin luther king, were all part of the back fringe that needed to take off their pajamas and didn;t understand how difficult and complicated it was for roosevelt, truman, eisnehower, kennedy and johnson to govern a deeply divided country. and those presidents knew that they knew they had 90 percent of the voters, ---that is white voters--- in their pockets, especially in the segregated jim crow south, but as well in the deeply racist north

we should find out who the advisor was, and demand, as the right has already done successfully with other white house advisors. and demand that person being fired immediately and sent to work in a third world pajamas factory in china!

lets see if just this once, the obama amdinistration will cave to the demands of the citizens who voited for it, as it caves to its policial foes on the far right!

talk about fringes, the obama white house has totally caved to a right wing fringe called tea partiers who axcted like brownshirts at rigged town hall meetings this summer and let the likes of its fringe democrat base control the legislative agenda to defeat true healh care reform

dream on obama and the whtie house advisors, as you find out the consequences of listening to the right, which iwll never vote for you or deomcrats in 2010 and 2012, while your "fringe" base stays home and has pajjama parties instead of voting for you!”

dct1999 replied on Oct 12, 2009 at 06:50:46

“Wow, the exact reaction that the reporter hoped to get from his bullsheet story. Congratulations on being so easily manipulated.”
Stephanopoulos Scolds Hannity On Jennings: 'I Don't Think You Have The Goods' (VIDEO)

Stephanopoulos Scolds Hannity On Jennings: 'I Don't Think You Have The Goods' (VIDEO)

Commented Oct 09, 2009 at 11:54:19 in Media

“george stephanapoulos turned in a dismal inept pefromance and the headling here is really off the mark. hannity used his usual techniques here, he wasn't interested in debating the facts, he was interested in seeing how many times he could say nambla or north american man boy love association his small, but so-called national audience, in addtion to how many times he could say the queering of american education. his real goal was to use the interview with george to label his target as a member of the gay commuinity, which hannity, fox, murdoch and the right wing radicals, be they the hate cable, or hate radio hosts, or the brown shirt tea partiers from last summer's bund town hall meetings, define as the sodmoites of the so-called gay life style. while george sat there and as sure as he might have taken pie in his face, hannity used him to throw his hate agenda in his face and to his right wing radicaxl audience. score one for hannity, and a big nothiing for stephanopoulos who was used as a hannity prop!”

SoCalDaveO replied on Oct 09, 2009 at 12:26:15

“Jennings may or may not be gay...imma­terial and hos own business. That he defends and supports and lectures in front of pedophiles makes him a bad choice. a VERY bad choice. Your hatred of everything FOX has to take a backseat to that.”

efmo replied on Oct 09, 2009 at 12:23:41

“I agree. My first reaction to seeing the headline was omg, somone from the msm actually called out SH on his made up controversies & then I watched most of the video & thought George came across too weak in getting his point across. SH sounds like he won't back down on anything - Obama could say the sun will rise at a certain time & SH will call him in league with the devil & even if it does rise at that time, SH will never give in to the facts. Maybe it would be nice if there was a newspaper article or evening news segment on SH & his fantasy land in regard to any one issue & not leave it to the daily show all the time.”

Cycadeoidea replied on Oct 09, 2009 at 11:56:13

“Yep.”
Dick Cook, Walt Disney Studios Chairman, Steps Down

Dick Cook, Walt Disney Studios Chairman, Steps Down

Commented Sep 19, 2009 at 05:05:17 in Media

“the word is, that cook has resigmed at disney to join former chair michael eisner--both men were seen late friday night getting on the la grehound bus bound for town hall meetings all across the country, where they will scream down any and all as they support their birther, tea pary and brown shirt movment, that they helped launch with their pet boys, their cheif money makers, the radio act rush and sean. dfisney own abc, abc owns rush and sean and abc is the face of hate radio in this country, think of that the next time you buy your tickets for disneyland and disneyworld! remember you are entering the worlds of sean and rush and that mickey mouse and sweetheart minnie, are tea pariers, birthers and racist hate mongers!”
Tea Party Crowd Drowns Out CNN Reporter During Live Report (VIDEO)

Tea Party Crowd Drowns Out CNN Reporter During Live Report (VIDEO)

Commented Sep 12, 2009 at 19:28:31 in Politics

“and when the tea partiers burn the reichstag, i mean capitol, will they blame on obama and the black,s and the jews, and the immigrant workers, and the latinos and the catholics? of course they are all in costume, its to hide their brown shirts! tell disney and fox you wont't stand for their support on abc and fox for the brown shirt racist thugs that ruish and sean are using to undo the election. time to start parading with our own placards of rush and sean and wilson and mickey mouse and murdoch in their brown shirts!”

slocomp replied on Sep 12, 2009 at 20:20:15

“We could even make our posters on a computer and use spell check.”
US Embassy Guards Gone Wild In Kabul: Prostitution, Brawls, And Vodka Butt Shots

US Embassy Guards Gone Wild In Kabul: Prostitution, Brawls, And Vodka Butt Shots

Commented Sep 01, 2009 at 15:11:04 in World

“DONT' ASK! DON'T TELL!”
Sebelius: Public Health Care Option

Sebelius: Public Health Care Option "Not The Essential Element"

Commented Aug 16, 2009 at 21:14:08 in Politics

“all i have to say is i am not only ready to abandon obama, i have abandoned obama!
its only fitting, as he has abanadoned all the voters who elected him to fight the fight against the far right. we needed a second clinton to fight the fight, instead we got a chamberlain who offers us peace with the far right republican base in our time. now we need an american churchill to save us from obama,the appeaser!”

probo replied on Aug 16, 2009 at 21:16:45

“paid.”

GOPtakesEllisDee replied on Aug 16, 2009 at 21:16:24

“Cool, go vote for Palin. You never supported president Obama anyway....­heh”
Orly Taitz Melts Down On MSNBC, Blames MSM

Orly Taitz Melts Down On MSNBC, Blames MSM "Brownshirts" (VIDEO)

Commented Aug 06, 2009 at 06:44:19 in Media

“its a joke, the birthers are a crazed right wing brown shirt republican hooligans used to disrupt like they are used for tea party rumles and to disrupt town hall meeting on health care, and like the right wing brown shirt thugs were used to state an all out coup to steal the election and stop the vote couning in florida in 2000.

however all that said, the two geniuses of the so-called press corp here, who display all the things they learned in msnbc chatter school, are so low on the totum pole of anything called jornalism you have to end up sympathizing with the reporter they are attacking. they don't let her speak and thats because they are taught not to let anyone speak and to constantly interrupt and feed an interviewee with questions that lead them to soundbites that nbc thnks is the outcome that gives them ratings and attention. what a cesspool> remember what schuster did to clinton! hillary and chelsea alike! and bringng up holocaust victom realtives for the sake of plying his sorted trade here was the really disgustsing moment.”
Liz Cheney Defends Birthers On Larry King (VIDEO)

Liz Cheney Defends Birthers On Larry King (VIDEO)

Commented Jul 22, 2009 at 12:27:37 in Politics

“why be stunnded! if it looks like a cheney, talks like a cheney, acts like a cheney--it stinks!”
Obama Calls On Bloggers To Keep Health Care Pressure On Congress (AUDIO)

Obama Calls On Bloggers To Keep Health Care Pressure On Congress (AUDIO)

Commented Jul 21, 2009 at 07:33:31 in Politics

“i will make no phone calls for obama on this or any other issue, why doesn't he just ivnite everyone to a tea party at the white house and tell them how they will have to wati longer for universal health care. thats what he told the gay and lesbian community a few weeks ago, and i say it its good enough for gay and lesbians to wait another 40 years for their civil rights, , and to wati foranother president who truly supports eaulity in the mitirary, marriage equality,fedral tax and benefits equality, then tis good enough for americans to wait for another presiden too! we oculd have had hillary!”

majordomo2 replied on Jul 21, 2009 at 07:59:43

“Health care is the most important issue on the domestic agenda. This is a fight that has to be fought now, a fight that you would have never gotten out of Hillary (who is already tainted with the stigma of having tried and failed). All you would have gotten from her is a lot of hot air feel-good tokenism, the political hackery that is the Clinton stock and trade. As one gay person to another let me tell you, with all due respect, go back to your Judy Garland records, darling, your time is OVER.”

AsianAfricanAMERICAN replied on Jul 21, 2009 at 07:40:10

“(-)”

jasongrundy replied on Jul 21, 2009 at 07:35:46

“Stay off crack!”

harobamason replied on Jul 21, 2009 at 07:35:38

“You can keep the tea party idea.

How did it go the last time?”
Orszag: Republicans Trying To Kill Health Care Reform Through Delay

Orszag: Republicans Trying To Kill Health Care Reform Through Delay

Commented Jul 19, 2009 at 17:35:50 in Politics

“how come the crooks in congress don't refuse their government health insurance. if the government can't afford to provide me with affordable healh insurance, then lets tell the crooks in congress, we the people can't afford to pay for theirs! how interesting that the folks on both sides of the aisle who spent all the trillions bush asked for on iraq and voted for tax cuts to the rich, only have a problem with reforming health care in this country.”

wanda665 replied on Jul 19, 2009 at 17:42:20

“agree”
Cloris Leachman Bathing Suit Photo:

Cloris Leachman Bathing Suit Photo: "I've Taken Care Of Myself" (PICTURE)

Commented Jul 16, 2009 at 20:56:54 in Entertainment

“nice story, and no work done! amazing how only the rich and famous look like they had work done, that they say they haven't had done. everyone else who hasn't had work done, looks like they haven't had work done.”
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy's Truly Timeless Style (PHOTOS)

Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy's Truly Timeless Style (PHOTOS)

Commented Jul 16, 2009 at 20:49:05 in Style

“an amazingly important story! its the kind of story that makes my time spent here so productive!”
Madoff Probe: 10 Others To Be Charged: AP Source

Madoff Probe: 10 Others To Be Charged: AP Source

Commented Jun 30, 2009 at 12:23:55 in Business

“it does my heart good, to see all you good folk hate madoff for what he did and to know that federal prosecutors have put him away for 150 years. at the same time of course all the crooks that are protecrted by coroprate names like citicorp and morgan stanley are rewarded with pay raises, and bonuses and at tax payer expense. for the geniuses who put together the multi trillion dollar fraud of subrpime mortgages and widespread speculation and rigging of futures markets, there is no federal prosecution, only federal tax payer bailouts. what a stupid bunch of dummys you all are, venting all your hate at madoff, the way the feds and the big money boys want you to so that they can go on putting their hands in your pockets and taking whatever they havent already.

its lie martha stewart redux. get martha, so no one will notice what was really happening on wall street a few years ago, and how the sec and government agencies meant to keep an eye on the bankign and securities industry, used deregulation to let everyone ruin the american econonmy while the whole country made jokes about martha stweart!”

ButterFlyGirlFly replied on Jun 30, 2009 at 14:35:24

“Exactly, well said.”

pmc617 replied on Jun 30, 2009 at 14:27:20

“Clearly, you are not a capitalist!”

johnqsittinzen replied on Jun 30, 2009 at 13:43:54

“I so disagree. While I understand there's a bigger picture in terms of deregulation, financial shenanigans and corporations run amok, to compare the Martha Stewart case to Bernie Madoff is disingenuous at best. Stewart used insider info to protect her portfolio, ie. putting - or keeping - money in her own pocket. Her misdeeds, arguments about scapegoating aside, did not affect anyone else. Madoff initiated a public swindle of historic proportions, an outright theft of billions. He is personally responsible for the financial ruin of thousands of Americans. Of course he's going to suffer some public acrimony and ignominy. Hardly comparable to what Stewart endured for being a highly public figure caught with her well manicured hand 'insider' the cookie jar. Madoff didn't become a national celebrity until he admitted his crimes.

So, there's a crime wave sweeping the nation, and then a serial killer turns himself in and his crimes are historic in nature. Do you really think people won't pay attention? The scary part is that if he didn't turn himself in, he' d still be out there stalking his victims because the law enforcement iss ill equipped to protect the public. Martha Stewart is not Bernie Madoff.”

basta replied on Jun 30, 2009 at 13:39:09

“Exactly.”

malodorousgit replied on Jun 30, 2009 at 13:20:44

“I so so so agree”
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