esgabel's Comments (1210)

“Thank you.”

“O.K.

If you say so.”

“that's funny - I never thought that my mother choose to have a career over her kids but when the father left her with 3 kids under the age of 5 what else was she supposed to do? I would have loved to have had more time with her and less time with the dishes but my mother had no choice and thankfully had the education and was a Nurse or we would have been completely lost for the father thoroughly removed himself from financial responsibility. No one chooses to work 12 hours a day to fund her family and not spend any time with them.”

“I just wonder why we expect less from ourselves (or more?) than we do from our kids.

Would we expect our children to find their personal fulfillment through being with us 24/7? Certainly not. We'd think that was wrong, selfish, crippling. But we demand it of ourselves. Find happiness by being with your children 24/7. Well, for those who DO find fulfillment that way, and who do have the financial resources to do it, then that's the best of worlds for that person. But I just don't think it's an either/or situation. I think it is actually possible to be a "working mother"--a woman with a career or vocation outside the home--and be also a loving mother, an engaged mother, and a mother who leaves their children feeling loved and appreciated.

Maybe it just isn't possible for some women to fulfill themselves totally and stay home 24/7. So then should they be martyrs to their children? I'm sure their children don't want that and would be more damaged by that than helped.

I just think that we too often frame this as an either/or conversation, based on certain questionable assumptions. I'd ask to consider the possibility that it isn't "either/or" and that it is possible to raise happy children AND work hard in the world beyond the four walls.”

“esgabel -- your childhood sounds very similar to mine. Except that you were younger (I was 9) when your father died and your mother became the sole provider. I guess I was lucky to enjoy cosy family life a little longer than you, so I never felt any real sense of abandonment, let alone resentment. On the contrary, I saw my mother as an incredible role model -- it seemed to me that there was absolutely nothing she couldn't do, no problem she couldn't solve, nothing she couldn't fix. And when she did have time for her kids, it was magical and fun. I hope I can live up to her standards.”

“And I agree with YOU - there is nothing funny about this. It is unbelievable how many so-called American citizens on here are asking, "What's the big deal?"

Either they are complete neanderthals or they are so partisan that they are willfully malicious and not at all patriotic, not even by the most generous stretch of the imagination.”

“Me either! What a couple of idiots!

I'm gonna say it - they must be repugs trying to embarrass the POTUS!

;-0”

“It truly seems as if the apologists here cannot see the connection­....”

“Thanks You esgabel.”

“The Council of Bishops of the Roman Catholic Church in the State of Connecticut is on record in support of universal health care for all residents of Connecticut - now there is real Catholic courage - doing something for the people right in Insuranceville, USA”

“Exactly. Being a pedophile is ok with them. They
buried it for years while more children were abused.
They make me sick.”

“Agreed.”

“You are correct in the fact that this is mob rule. But incorrect when you say their skin will crawl when they realize what they have done. Mrs. Woktowicz and her group are hatemongers driven by the constant right wing bashing of the President and the Democratic Party. They can not and will not think on their own. They are as sheep being led by hate filled media and self-serving politicians. They will never realize what they have done because their hearts are too hardened.”

“Senator Lieberman could very well be taking money from the corporate interests, but he is popular enough with his constituents, and trusted enough, that not only has he been reelected over and over, but won election even when abandoned by the party who felt he should be VP a few years earlier. He represents Connecticut, and no matter what poll is cited by the left or the right, he keeps getting elected, so he is doing something right.

People in these forums always call for the heads of those who do not do what they, with limited understanding of the issues because we are not allowed by this Congress to see most legislation until it's too late, hear the few Democratic leaders crowing most loudly about. The speed with which politicians are abandoned based on a single issue shows the irresponsibility of the partisan hacks who let a few self-interested leaders do their thinking for them. Look at how people turned on the Senator from Nebraska because he wants to understand the legislation completely, and has some questions before he commits to a vote.

In the end, every day people need to get over the D or the R next to people's names, and stop adoring or reviling people based solely on their subservience to the parties. The parties have become completely self-serving jokes, both of them, and it's good to see a Senator or two come out and say they are not comfortable with a particular stance.”

“I am also an actively practicing Roman Catholic and I share your views on abortion. I am also an R.N., and have worked in manydifferent socioeconomic areas of the Chicagoland area. Despite my personal beliefs about abortion, it is not something that we can legislate away, especailly with a huge lack of sex-education (real sex-education, not abstinence only) and so many women and girls in the world with few resources and low self esteem.

You are right, if it becomes illegal again, it will happen in opportunitistic, non-sterile doctor's offices and in other unsavory locations. It wouldn't solve the abortion "problem", it would push it behind dirty curtains. The only way to help these women who feel a need for an abortion is by real sex education (and not abstinence only), and raising self esteem through education and mentors.

The U.S. Council of Catholic Bishops doesn't want to hear the voice of the average American Cathoic right now.”

“Great point. The pastoral tradition is fundamental in Catholic religion, and is one of its best aspects. Tobin forgot about that I guess. (?)”

“Fanned and faved.”

“Mankind needs to take back it's own humanity, and not through any religion.”

“Offensive?

They're just caricatures.

Ever hear of cartooning?”