flossophy's Comments (424)

“Well unles they were busy re regulating wallstreet, changing our free trade agreements, setting up a national industrial policy and VAT taxes for export rebates- doing the things the r4st of the wrold does, and increasing taxes to pay for the Bush wars... none of which you would be fore.. then what else should they be doing that would bring back industry to the U.S. andpls dont list more of the same failed polices that got us here.

If you want to see what our healthcare system has to do with jobs.. look at Detroit ( the future of American cities) and just across the lake in Canada!

Regards.”

“Oh Floss (!).......mixing apples and oranges and not seeing the big picture.
No point repeating what other posters have explained here already.”

“no, actually it hasn't”

“I know Flossy,

Your party is doing everything they can to block this and slow it down.”

“Tell your republican buddies to step aside and agree not to filibuster and the congress can be done with it tomorrow and move on to jobs.”

“Both are important son.”

“What is your political/economic philosophy? Are you a follower of Friedman?

I know you are here to poke at folks. You must know that the great majority of those commenting at Huff Post are either Liberals, Democrats or Progressives.

I'm curious why you spend your time here, and also curious as to what it is you believe in.”

“Why aren't you trolling on the Drudge site?”

“Because genius, the current state of health care (rising costs, financial ruin due to enormous medical bills, etc) is a major contributor to the economic situation and left unchecked will cause even more devastation to the US economy. But as long as the health insurers keep gouging the American public, misleading the gullible teabagging sheep and lining the pockets of politicians, true substantive reform will be next to impossible.”

“Because its more of a "corporate welfare" bill than a health care bill. If Obama wanted health care reform and bipartisanship, he would have started with one off bills that tackle the real problems like: ending the monopoly that health insurance corporations enjoy. Making health insurance corporations play by the rules would have been an easy sell to the American people.

Then a bill to end the practice of dropping coverage when someone is sick.

A series of things like that. Probably would have ended the health insurance industry really.

And that's the problem. Obama can't stand the idea of a corporation failing, even if its business model is corrupt, unjust, and inefficient.

Its the same thing with Wall Street. Obama can't stand the idea of banks, particularly big banks, failing.

Obama only cares about the super rich. That's why Obama wants an expensive health care bill. And BTW, its not government run. Its all corporate run.”

“Yeah, and as soon as the administration does, you will throw dirt all over that effort as well...

Why aren't you over commenting on Drudge?

They don't like you either?”

“You see flossy, when people lose their job, they lose their medical coverage, and it then costs much more than they can afford through COBRA, because they don't have a job, get it? So medical benefits are important, and in fact it's one main reason why most people want to work, so they are covered. Now I find it most amusing how republicans are changing their argument against health care as it will distract from job creation. But actually, if health care is more affordable then businesses can provide it along with new jobs. They go hand in hand.”

“Oh and Flossy,

It will cost us much more if we do nothing on healthcare. In fact, this bill is paid for by higher taxes on the wealthy. In fact, the CBO, who Republican's love to quote when it favors them, says this bill will REDUCE the deficit by 127 BILLION over 20 years.”

“Uh Floss,

Healthcare costs are a big reason for the current economic slump. They are also adding to the deficit.”

“ Why have various Republican governments pursue expensive oversea wars while allowing millions of jobs to be outsourced overseas?

Those jobs lost overseas aren't going to come back. We are far too materialistic a society and no one is willing to pay $3000 for a 32" flatscreen made in the USA but $3-400 made in China.”

“oh and by the way we are in the midst of the deepest Republican Created recession since the republican created Great Depression.”

“If you haven't been paying attention the health care bills in congress REDUCE the deficit by $70 to $100 billion depending on which bill you are looking at.”

“Both health care and employment are interdependent.

That's been explained over and over. Doesn't need a long explantion - it's self explanatory.”

“Bingo? Capitalist!”

“Many of the most desirable jobs are union jobs. Skilled tradesmen police officers, firefighters, teachers, these are not deadend jobs.”

“we seem to have enough to print for war”

“LOL”

“Why has the printing press been broken?”

“They can always print more .... wrecking the dollar is part of their plan.”

“You have a point, but maybe if we stopped those two dumb wars your boy started, we could get things done a lot easier.”

“Doesn't matter. Unions don't matter to these guys, where have you been over the last 20 years or so? When Reagan fired the air traffic controllers, that signaled the end of union strenght in the United States, the unions never recovered. And don't tell me about the mighty UAW, they have been taking one in the roidal area for decades.”

“A new and authentic Left?”

“You just don't get it son,do you?”

“Both parties have abandoned the right too. What do we have left?”

“The basically non-existent republicant party has cut and run? Quit? Oh No, another No?
So pathetic that your policies have brought us this mess and you want to blame the left? Raygun first closed the state mental institutions as governor of California and it seems you or a parent avoided necessary treatment.”

“How are Unions unsustainable? The Reagan Administration crushed them when he slammed the air traffic control unions back in the Republicants glory days.

How are Unions dragging the country down? They're all on their last legs?

The unions represent the working class and I've never seen the working class in such bad shape.”

“Wrong, unions pull working people into the middle class, and even people who don't belong to unions benefit from unionization.”

“More than the 40 year cost of slip-shot healthcare policy?”

“Be quiet, it was Republican insanity that got us here.”

“That is a rather astute observation ... and this time, it has struck the Heartland.

Lack of jobs has led to great anger in Ohio and Michigan.”

“I never found cynicism to be any help in any situation. It is way too easy.”

“examples or shutup.....”

“What long-term solution are you speaking of and where has it been tried?”

“As you are ours.”

“Katrina was allowed to happen because Bush took no action after being warned the levees would fail and they would not be able to handle the response required so, in context, what you said makes no sense.”

“LOL... the left? everyone knows that comcast's owners are (supposedly) conservative, yet, you claim there is some fairness doctrine conspiracy going on? how about allowing some fairness to distribution of cable news where msnbc can be at the same level fox news is? if fox news can be shown without limit all over the country, msnbc should be allowed to do the same thing. currently they are not, and this will level the playing field.deal with it.”

“I do not know how to locate the biggest idi@t on the interwebs, but until that person is found you da man!”

“That is insane. Of course, you know that.”

“What is that you have against diversity?”

“Real progressives voted for Kucinich in the primary and Nader in the general.

It's easy to line up and do what your told, exercising a little independent thought can go a long way.”

“Right now this is a center left country at the least.”

“From your flawed perspective.”

“Maybe not but no matter how many times you make that claim this is NOT a center right country. If”

“You're right, this wasn't a "progressive" election, it was a disenchanted "swing vote" election. Blinded by anger at Bush and the loss of their job doesn't equate to a mandate.”

“If we were a center-right country, we wouldn't have Social Security.”

“Ah, more eraserhead philosophy. Everyone got your hip boots on?”

“That's not true. Socialism per se has nothing to do with a "deity"--nor does it have any similar foundation or agenda based on "worshipping" like organized religions have. It has a purely social construct.”

“I think your "ism's" are getting confused and bleeding into each other.
We have basically become an Oligarchy aka Banana Republic. No "ism's" necessary.”

“And this makes me want to identify with liberalism so much more. No offense, but after a great election year, it feels like so many people are trying to drum me right out of the movement. I'm about the biggest liberal ... er, Liberal ... one could ask for, yet when I read comments like this, I dip my head and understand why so many people hate using the term "liberal". I don't see myself ever going to the conservative side, but clearly I (and so many other people like me) aren't welcome in your exclusive group. It's sad really, because that will end up being the downfall of the liberal ... er Liberal ... movement.”

“And my political science professor wasted an entire semester, when it was only about punctuation.

Thanks neocon...now put away your crayons, the grownups are talking about how Barack "closet Reaganite" Obama is escalating a needless war on the heels of winning the Nobel Peace Prize.”

“When did I ever imply that conservatives were smart? Bush/Cheney proves that as a non-starter.”

“What's next from you? Gee mister, can I borrow a nickel? Stop annoying me, neocon.”