fun2bfree's Comments (187)

“so basically you confirm that a DIFFERENT word applies for the same sex spouse than it does for the opposite sex spouse. So I can see how some might insist on a different word for same sex unions than the word marriage. I can see how. I don't care. I think I know why they really care and it has nothing to do with reason or logic as we are discussing here...it has to do with the mistaken notion that a marriage license from the state equals APPROVAL of the relationship or the lifestyle. It does not and this mistaken notion of approval is wherein both sides make the argument.
Civil unions/marriages should be framed strictly as an issue of freedom- freedom to organize your life as you see fit. Don't look to the state to approve or disapprove of lifestyles or partner choices.”

“what dictionary did God write? In which language? What font does God prefer?”

“I have not read everyone's comments, so forgive me if the point has already been made.
While I agree gays should have the right to get hitched and I could not care less if they call it marriage or not, the argument about the word has logic to it. I don't doubt for a miniute this is not about logic., though. I don't doubt that the opposition to gay marriage has everything to do with using the power of the state to "disapprove" of lifestyle choices that gays make. But given the logic it would be better to just fight for the rights, not the word.

Consider, a man marries a woman= Husband and wife.
A man marries a man or a woman marries a woman- = husband and husband? wife and wife? We use a different word for a man in a marriage than we use for the woman in the marriage. THe words are different depending on the genders..S­o Same gender unions could be considered something other than the word marriage.
Again- they should be equal in the eyes of hte law, but let the haters ahve their word, for now...it will all fall apart eventually as all oppression eventually does. They are on the wrong side of history.”

“they said there was a potato on the Letterman show!”

“I am not sure he IS saying it is okay, so much as asking the audience to think about it. I don't think he is definitely comig down in favor of evil in service to a good cause, just pointing out that whatever side you are on- you think it is okay to do whatever you do to win.”

“Eitehr I am very imaginative or most everyone seems to have missed what to me is Tarantino's main point: It is asking the question which should resonate deeply in a world of Dick Cheney justified torture, which is essentially- it is okay to be brutal and cruel if in service to some "good" cause?
That this author and so many others seem to have missed the point speaks to Tarantino having bungled his message, but to say he has nothing to say, is not fair.
It cannot be a coincidence that the most brutal, violent acts are committed by "our heroes"- the Americans, baseball bats, summary executions, scalping, finger probes of bullet wounds even in those on "our side."
It cannot be a coincidence that the film within the film features "their hero" gunning down our guys. I thin he means for us to wince as their audience cheers their hero's shooting down of our boys. all within a movie in we cheer on the butchering and battering of "them."
To me, the film was too long, badly acted in spots and not entirely satisfying­....but it seemed most definitely to be trying to say something.”

“60 minutes' medical reports were often really ill informed and ill informing.­..the puff piece they did on Shark Caritlege probably sent thousands if not millions on a wild goose chase of false hope built on snake oil and quackery..­..it makes you wonder how good the other reporting was about stuff I don't know enough about to see the mistakes”

“Wow!- that is the oath by LAW!--and contrary to the Constitution they are promising to uphold which unequivocally states in Article VI-
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

--the oath which is not in the constitution but is apparently prescribed by law passed by these hypocrites-in including the phrase "So help me god" in the oath seems to exclude any non-theists and becomes a religious test - in direct violation of the Constitution.”

“"...Jenny Sanford discovered the affair, the couple went into counseling. ...he asked her several times to visit the mistress and she refused."
What in the world for?
For a threesome?”

“Why do you care what consenting adults do to organize their lives as they see fit? How is that the state's business?”

“I fully support total equality for gays to join in legal unions- this battle to call it marriage plays right in the hands of the haters.
When a man marries a woman-he is the husband, she is the wife. Nothing unequal about it legally even though they have separate terms...se­parate different words to define them - but legally they are equal. Two men marry- neither of them will be a wife. Two women marry, neither of them will be a husband. Therefore it is "reasonable" to say that a marriage is the word for that union of a man and a woman and that unions of other sorts can have a different name.

I don't like this...I don't believe for a second the haters object to gay marriage on semantic grounds, but they will cling to any and every argument they can and this one has some merit, unfortunately.

The other problem inherent in this article is that people think that the government is part of this support system approving of your marriage. Governments cannot "approve" of your choice to marry--I am sure there are many heterosexual marriages which are legal that few would approve (gold-diggers, abusive relationships, immature people, etc.)--but the government can't get in the business of sorting out who should or should not marry --it should "allow" anyone to organize their life in whatever way they see fit. It should strictly be framed as an issue of liberty.”

“All this talk about a "health care crisis" and statistics showing that we get "worse" outcomes even though we spend more money is very very misleading. Heath care is a lot of things- not a monolith. Some of it is incredibly wasteful- other aspects are the envy of the world- and should be. We do spend more for cancer care than those other countries and we cure more of our cancer patients and our uncured patients live longer. The current approach towards health care reform would be similar to a claim that we can need to change the way we treat all cancers with some new single type of approach..­.cancer is not one disease - it is many different diseases requiring different approaches. Same goes for health care- Universal preventive and health care maintenence may be feasible and worthy of our common shared values. Universal access expensive therapies to extend life for 2 weeks or 2 months or that may not have any proof of their benefit but are routinely done anyway--this may not be something we all agree upon.”

“hosed??? by a one vote margin? WIth a well reasoned dissenting opinion from sitting jurists? I happen to agree with the majority of the court- any problem the minority candidates had with the test should have been stated BEFORE taking the test and getting the bad results. Nevertheless, clearly it is not a rebuke when only 4 justices with brains disagree with you (Thomas has demonstrated he is a complete tool and will usually do whatever Scalia tells him to do...with very rare exception.­..and even there it probably is orchestrated to mask his total dependence on Scalia)”

“"Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby."
Not sure who said it.”

“Drug laws are useless and impossible to enforce.
Where in the US can you be assured to find drugs?
Inside prisons-within a small confined space where theoretically there is total control of what goes in and what goes on there. If we cannot control it in such a setting attempting to do so in our huge country is futility, plain and simple.
What would happen if they actually stopped this futile exercise and redirected the money and effort to stopping thieves and murderers and acting only on behaviors where people harm those other than themselves?
Sounds like real liberty to me.”

“Hmm- is it a coincidence that someone who thinks Palin would be any good as Pres or Vice Prez also does not know that the greatly exaggerated quote is not Paul McCartney's but Mark Twain's...­I guess when you don't know much- you just don't know much.”

“Can someone tell me what is supposed to happen to the kids if they perform in the play? And exactly how whatever that is comes about as a result....­because if their kids are so fragile that acting a play is going to do...whate­ver...to them....I am not so sure they are prepared -or ever will be prepared- to graduate high school.”

“Who cares to see a clip of the previous Oscar winners accepting their awards? Here's an idea:
Before bringing out some prior Oscar winner to present an award--Show a clip from the performance for which they won that award and then introduce that actor to present this year's trophy. Or if they have not won an Oscar show a clip of some representative scene from his/her finest FILM work....th­en bring him/her out to present...
It's all about celebrating the MOVIES --not celebrating past awards shows...”

“Maher does not "leap" into atheism...­He has been critical of atheism- he is closer to agnostic as far as you would define it....but your comments are a distortion of the atheist position, anyway...

As an theist, I would not so much say flat out "there is not god" but more precisely- flat out- there is no good evidence for a god of the sort that most people claim to believe in....call that what you will...”

“"not in her district?" She is the US SENATOR for the entire STATE of CA that you claim to live in...next time try saying something plausible when you dissemble.­..”

“REALLY?
"two hot dogs, two spam musubi, two passion orange sodas, one Powerade and one coke, for a tab of $17.75"

I have been to Hawaii, and I am not sure that anywhere outside of a COSTCO, you could get 2 hot dogs and two sodas for less than $20...I doubt the validity of this story...”

“When voters start to see that Obama is not the scary communist/socialist Muslim Terrorist left wing nut job that people like Faux news tried to tell them he was--that he is as great as I believe he will prove to be---then they are going to start questioning the entirely legitimacy of the entire FauxNews/Right wing propaganda machine--and that whole enterprise will sink under the weight of truth.”

“NO-since obviously they can't attack Obama for this -- they will spin this as an act of betrayal! They will say, "the Dems have no loyalty to each other--they are stool pigeons, rats, squeals, tattletale­s....etc..­.."”

“Wow- isn['t it amazing that so many millions have accomplished this "dam near impossible" task. What is their secret?”

“so why do we train our doctors by interrupting their sleep, sleep depriving them? Because they are cheap medical labor--well pennywise.­..dead foolish.”