“while this may have been disrespectful, it doesn't affect you at all. you, and the current generation, are not who were affected by this. it's similar to slavery and people STILL apologizing for it? why? that was a long time ago and there are people walking around now feeling sorry for something some distant relative did.”
“no one is saying they CAUSE suicide. they do facilitate suicidal thoughts. There's no such thing as a set of designated 'suicidal-prone' people. anyone can become suicidal, all they need is to become depressed, which these two substances can facilitate. putting aside your claim that you 'study' herbs (probably just read up on wikipedia), certain STRAINS of marijuana have been show to be beneficial, and these are the ones with the LOWEST THC content. Keep up the good work, John Bartram”
“" but I would think that like most suicidal people, it's not the substance that causing it."
well good thing you're not a doctor then”
ohgoodgrief99 on Oct 22, 2013 at 15:33:38
“Never said that I was. I study herbs, and this is one of them. Suicide due to cannabis use hasn't come up in any of the research that I've seen. Of course, I'm using more recent research than "Reefer Madness" or the government/business propaganda machine. Cannabis IS however useful for treating a lot of nervous and psychological disorders--in a positive way. It can alleviate pain and stress. Alcohol doesn't "cause" suicide either, but in those who ARE suicidal it can lower their inhibitions to the point that they think it's the only way out.”
“OK, good for you? That still doesn't change the fact that alcohol and marijuana both could cause suicidal thoughts and impair driving”
ohgoodgrief99 on Oct 22, 2013 at 11:57:13
“I haven't seen the "suicidal thoughts" affect, but I would think that like most suicidal people, it's not the substance that causing it. And most mature cannabis users know better and have the self control ("inhibitions"--which alcohol destroys) not to drive while they feel they shouldn't. So no--they are not at all the same.”
“you have to go beyond insurance companies. hospitals and biotech companies charge enormous amounts for their products and services. this is where patent laws become a problem. once a new drug/device is developed the patent lasts for at least 7 years, during which they charge whatever they want for it. there's currently a treatment for either pancreatic or prostate cancer that costs over 100,000 and it only extends life for a couple of months. ”
thistooshallpass on Oct 15, 2013 at 13:32:39
“Thank you for expanding on the point. My Mother at the age of 92 had a pacemaker implanted . She lived for 6 months after that. I agreed to the transplant. I couldn't bring myself to just say no. But, if you are going to demand all the bells and whistles, then you must be willing to pay for them. Every time, either party tries to cut the cost of medical spending, the other side screams, "You want to kill grandma." And the American public says NO,NO, No. And those who profit from that spending, will egg them on in there demands that their services should not be cut. I also point out that we pay more for health care with worse outcomes than those evil socialized medicine countries, But then, their medical care systems and providers are willing to get less. SNAFU ”
“people are over analyzing everything. the ONE reason healthcare costs so much is because they're allowed to charge whatever they want.”
thistooshallpass on Oct 15, 2013 at 11:01:52
“See, that is why the ACA is so reviled. It attempts to cut costs and keep them from charging whatever they want. . It tells the insurance companies they must spend a specific percent on actual care. If not they must refund the difference.
Why do insurance companies refuse to cover pre-existing conditions. It cuts their profits. Obama said they must. They lose money. Bad, bad. Evil ACA. Yes, Republicans say they support that, but what have they done to preserve it? Nothing.
The threat of the ACA is the it will cut into the profits of the status quo.
Consider the insanity of overturning or delaying the Medical Device tax. What's up with that? How many Republican votes did that get Boehner? Who demanded that as the price of their vote?”