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Study: Slowdown In Warming Last Year Not Permanent

Study: Slowdown In Warming Last Year Not Permanent

Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 20:42:39 in Green

“Or based on THEORY--much like man-made global warming is solely predicated on untested theory.”
Study: Slowdown In Warming Last Year Not Permanent

Study: Slowdown In Warming Last Year Not Permanent

Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 20:40:01 in Green

“Gee, I didn't know I was forced to walk the walk when it came to drill, baby, drill.

I am an energy consumer whom would rather use all of those great products of industry if we invested in industrial hemp or some other more user-friendly resource. It's virtually impossible to get off of petroleum and still lead a regular life, I'm aware of that.

Maybe in the near future if we get the right kind of energy investment.”

Bartel5 replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 20:46:57

“"investment"? Is that code for "tax"?”
Study: Slowdown In Warming Last Year Not Permanent

Study: Slowdown In Warming Last Year Not Permanent

Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 20:35:13 in Green

“Actually seems Al Gore does believe in the religion of Climatology.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6494213/Climate-change-belief-given-same-legal-status-as-religion.html”

gitrdone replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 20:40:47

“But....it'­s a science.

Religion is based in faith.

Clear difference my friend!”
Study: Slowdown In Warming Last Year Not Permanent

Study: Slowdown In Warming Last Year Not Permanent

Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 20:31:59 in Green

“Though I don't believe we should be drilling anymore since it's akin to putting a junkies needle into the Earth, we just found a whole mess of untapped reserves in the Dakotas as well.

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news2.13s.html

VikingQuest replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 20:36:15

“If you don't believe we should be drilling anymore . . . you better hold true to that in your own life then . . .

- Don't use rubber products
- Don't drive a car
- Don't ride a bus
- Don't use products shipped via trucks
- Don't fly on a plane

Otherwise, you're kidding yourself.”

Bartel5 replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 20:35:17

“Oil and coal are inert sources of energy. Far better sources than most biofuel production which requires almost as much fuel input as the output.”

gitrdone replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 20:35:02

“Great, and we have 100 years worth of coal. Let's just keep on pumping that CO2 out until New York is flooded!”
Gordon Brown Slams Climate-Change Skeptics As 'Anti-Science, Flat-Earthers'

Gordon Brown Slams Climate-Change Skeptics As 'Anti-Science, Flat-Earthers'

Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 17:30:52 in Green

“Let Gordon Brown tell you about it:

http://www.google.com/search?q=gordon+brown+new+world+order&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_en”

billhodges replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 18:02:10

“There is little doubt that there are world powers pushing for just this and Obama is an admitted supporter. We do not need to give up our constitution to become like the other countries in the world. Let them become like us.”
Gordon Brown Slams Climate-Change Skeptics As 'Anti-Science, Flat-Earthers'

Gordon Brown Slams Climate-Change Skeptics As 'Anti-Science, Flat-Earthers'

Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 17:28:32 in Green

“No, they were real; but the whole point of the climategate fiasco was that data and statistics showing the parts of the world that were experiencing normal to above normal ice caps were being suppressed.

Cherrypicked information--it worked selling us a bogus war based on WMD's.”

rbndc replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 17:47:04

“And the stolen emails that were chosen to be revealed were not cherry-picked as well?”
Gordon Brown Slams Climate-Change Skeptics As 'Anti-Science, Flat-Earthers'

Gordon Brown Slams Climate-Change Skeptics As 'Anti-Science, Flat-Earthers'

Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 17:26:15 in Green

“As if the eternal wisdom of the great Gordon Brown will convince those on the fence that there really is 'nothing to see here, people.'

Of course he'll use the hyperbolic attacks like saying flat-earthers; what his bosses hoped to accomplish by suckering everyone into a carbon trading scheme ala Enron is being sucked out the window along with this 'new global order' Brown always rails about.”

"ClimateGate:" UN Investigating Hacked Emails

Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 14:34:56 in Green

“He means ethics like cherry-picking raw information to benefit a politically-driven agenda like what happened in Downing street around 2002-03.”

"ClimateGate:" UN Investigating Hacked Emails

Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 14:32:20 in Green

“It's as if the Geico cavemen went to work for the U.N.”
Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 13:59:39 in Green

“And actually the Gore family made their name in their control over Occidental petroleum.

http://archive.salon.com/politics2000/feature/2000/01/21/gore_cpi/index.html

Yes, a big fat evil oil company with financial ties to the Gore's.”
Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 13:56:31 in Green

“Yeah but after Climategate, Al Gore probably wishes he never invented the damn thing in the first place.

You're a good sport for sticking to your guns and providing the healthy counterpoint to the truth leaking out, but you ain't winning this round with your information.”

T Specter replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 14:03:17

“There are certainly a lot of you here, my question is: do you all share the same brain cell? It certainly appears that way.”
Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 13:53:26 in Green

“Dude, we're giving you the news links with their own quotes. Are you still walking around thinking 2+2=5?”
Take Back Al Gore's Oscar, Two Academy Members Demand In Light Of Climategate

Take Back Al Gore's Oscar, Two Academy Members Demand In Light Of Climategate

Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 13:40:09 in Los Angeles

“If this is all taken out of context, then why did the guy who wrote the emails now quit his job so abruptly?

Why is Gore canceling speaking engagements?

Spend more time with their families, or damage control?”

LeLoup replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 21:28:41

“Dr. Jones didn't quit his job. The Dean asked him to take an administrative leave.

Gore is smart: he rather wait for the issue to get resolved before speaking in public again.

In the meantime, do not let the facts get in the way of your beliefs. This ClimateGate BS has already been refuted.

That said, there is no question that some of the scientists at the CRU have some 'splainning to do. But even that does NOT change the climate destabilization theory (a theory is not a hunch BTW) one bit.

I'll provide penty of links to support what I just said...if you are willing to use them.”

thepoliticalcat replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 13:45:24

“How about "canceling speaking engagements until the issue is resolved"? But you wouldn't know about that since you won't even acknowledge that the hacked emails were "taken out of context," something people like you shout every time any "m@cac@" comment is spouted by one of your own.”
Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 13:37:07 in Green

“I guess that's what happens when the truth spills out like, pardon the pun, hot greenhouse gases.”

T Specter replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 13:41:38

“The only thing spilling here is your premature _ejaculate.”
Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Gore Cancels Climate Lecture In Copenhagen

Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 13:28:56 in Green

“Actually Exxon and the other big oil chiefs supports global warming and want a carbon tax.

http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/csw/details/exxon_disavows/

Yes, just like the big insurance companies are the ones pushing for the public option because it's a backdoor bailout, big oil is also the force helping to drive forward the backdoor bailout sham of carbon cap and trade.

This isn't as much about cherry-picking science as it is using it solely for this tax scheme much the same way the bailouts were forced on us during the market crashing.”

power to the people replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 14:06:27

“So really we should demand that the science speak for itself. Someone is going to try to make money off of everything anyway.”

T Specter replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 13:34:12

“Except they're not:

"A group promoting skepticism over widely-accredited climate change science has a web of connections to influential oil giant Exxon-Mobil, Raw Story has found.

The organization is called the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC), apparently named after the UN coalition International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). An investigation into the group reveals its numerous links to Exxon-Mobil, a vehement opponent of climate legislation and notorious among scientists for funding global warming skeptics.

"Exxon-Mobil essentially funds people to lie," Joseph Romm, lauded climate expert and author of the blog Climate Progress, told Raw Story. "It's important for people to understand that they pay off the overwhelming majority of groups in the area of junk science.""

http://rawstory.com/2009/12/climate-skeptic-group-nipcc-extensive-ties-exxonmobil/

There's much more profit in oil:

"(2008) Exxon Mobil reported the largest annual profit in U.S. history Friday, making $45.22 billion on the back of record oil price"

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/30/news/companies/exxon_earnings/inde
Group Promoting Climate Skepticism Is Extensively Linked to Exxon

Group Promoting Climate Skepticism Is Extensively Linked to Exxon

Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 17:56:34 in Green

“I'm also aware of the notion of playing you for a fool if you still believe that Exxon is not planning to cash in big time with climate change cap and trade legislation.

Remember,I'm sure Al Gore doesn't feel guilty that he pimped NAFTA so hard in the 90's.”

yemaya replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 07:41:42

“Listen, everyone wants a piece of the pie. Personally, I don't give a ratsass who makes money from green industry as long as they clean up the environment, our air, food and water. The question is, will it really be cleaned up.”
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New Poll Shows Americans Prefer Fee-and-Dividend

Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 17:53:08 in Green

“Cap and trade is going down like the backdoor bailout boondoggle it is shown to be.

So what the hell is fee and dividend? A nicer way of saying tax and spend?

Either way, the $ is coming out of taxpayers already having their Fed notes devalued and facing a lower standard of living because of the recession, and dividend-ing the trickle upwards to the masters of industry?

I'd prefer all these politicians and oligarchs stop alarming us and simply let innovators innovate without politicization for a defacto bailout by taxing carbon dioxide--which is showing more and more as not being the major factor behind climate change.”

GuyRC replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 17:06:15

“So climate scientists are oligarchs? It is simply untrue that data is showing anything that would make climate scientists retreat from AGW, that is simply not true. Hanging your argument on that statement discredits your entire post, though the worn out swiftboat namecalling didn't help your credibility either.”

CrzyRussell replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 21:43:08

“Where I live tens of thousands of people are unemployed as a direct result of the environmental movement. For the first time in my life I have seen democratic and republican groups come together and fight for the community! People have turned against experimentalists here in a dramatic way because they don't care about what happens to the people, most of whom are poor even in the best of times. The talk about this only hurting the rich is not true.

A new approach is needed.

One that doesn't raise taxes, energy prices or cost people jobs.”
Hopenhagen: Messages Of Hope (VIDEO)

Hopenhagen: Messages Of Hope (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 17:46:36 in Green

“Someone should turn it around and confront her on why she decided to give G.E. lobbyists a huge piece of the climate change cap and trade bailout pie.

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/3143/Report-Boxer-pays-off-GE-in-climate-bill--provision-compensates-GE-quite-nicely-for-its-lobbying”
Group Promoting Climate Skepticism Is Extensively Linked to Exxon

Group Promoting Climate Skepticism Is Extensively Linked to Exxon

Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 14:47:02 in Green

“A common charge leveled against global warming skeptics is that they are on the payroll of oil companies, when in fact the opposite is true, oil companies are amongst the biggest promoters of climate change propaganda, emphasized recently by Exxon Mobil’s call for a global carbon tax.

In a speech last month, Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson brazenly called out the cap and trade agenda for what it was, an effort to impose a carbon tax camouflaged only by a slick sales pitch and deceptive rhetoric.

“It is easier and more politically expedient to support a cap-and-trade approach, because the public will never figure out where it is hitting them,” said Tillerson. “They will just know they hurt somewhere in their pocketbook.

http://earthfirst.com/wtf-exxon-calls-for-carbon-tax-to-fight-global-warming/

Ideologically, Al Gore and Exxon Mobil are on exactly the same page – the only difference between the oil companies and global warming alarmists is the squabble over who will get to sink their teeth into the taxpayer and reap the dividends of the climate change scam.”

Tim303 replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 16:48:00

“I'm not sure you're aware of the notion of "Playing both sides of the field."”

ThinkCreeps replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 15:59:55

“Of course energy companies are interested in selling all manner of different energy products. Oil just happens to yield a bigger return at present.

If you know of a better plan to enforce reduced energy use apart from a tax on energy, then let's hear it. The oil price spike of 2008 was certainly responsible for some reduction, but the proceeds taken from the consumers pocketbook just went to... Exxon.”

shockmagog replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 15:37:00

“Try reading the article first.

Oh, and maybe try actually READING the article you linked to.

Stop embarrassing yourself and try looking at who is pulling your own strings.”

Spinn13 replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 15:19:31

“You're kidding, right? Whose payroll are you on?”

DocSkull replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 15:17:41

“Of course he favors a tax he can merely pass onto the consumer. However, it won't do much to reduce CO2 emissions.”
White House CEO Visit List: See Which Execs Dined With Obama

White House CEO Visit List: See Which Execs Dined With Obama

Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 14:38:40 in Business

“We could do a lot worse.

We could also do a lot better. So why do we settle for this 'look on the bright side' compromise when in harsh reality, the entire survival stake of our country rests on what happens these next four years.

I want better than your perceived rosy outlook.”
White House CEO Visit List: See Which Execs Dined With Obama

White House CEO Visit List: See Which Execs Dined With Obama

Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 13:43:53 in Business

“"Go back to bed, America, your government has figured out how it all transpired, go back to bed America, your government is in control again." --- Bill Hicks.”
Matt Taibbi's 'Obama's Big Sellout': How The White House Is Caving To Wall Street (VIDEO)

Matt Taibbi's 'Obama's Big Sellout': How The White House Is Caving To Wall Street (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 13:41:07 in Business

“If He is our greatness reflected, than why is he not paying that residual reflection back?

You have to stop this idolized image of Obama gazing longingly into the horizon with our best reflections tinging off his eyes and need to realize that Barack Obama is another politician with a great vocal inflection and a cool marketing image.”

eveready replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 13:52:49

“Actually Jefe Obama is a pathologic liar, uber narcissist, and grotesquely incompetent child president who actually might succeed in bringing about the destruction of the US as we know it.

Pathetic.”
Oliver Stone Slams Obama, Says Greed Is Legal In 'Wall Street 2'

Oliver Stone Slams Obama, Says Greed Is Legal In 'Wall Street 2'

Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 13:36:36 in Entertainment

“Actually JFK was way more truthful than anything the Warren commission came out with.

IMO, this is a perfect time to make another movie. And good thing that Stone actually calls out where the money trickles up to rather than focus on individuals like Gecko, whom are simply middle managers for the racket scheme.”

hypnus replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 14:40:54

“No. It wasn't. Jim Garrison, the man who Stone built his movie around was released from the Army due to severe and disabling psychoneurosis. The man he went after for Kennedy's death had nothing to do with it and was in fact a person Garrison had fixated upon prior to Kennedy’s death for other reasons. Stone used Garrison as a vehicle to push his theory of secret CIA involvement which has never been proven. To claim that the film JFK is more factual to the Warren Commission is laughable.”
Jon Stewart On ClimateGate (VIDEO)

Jon Stewart On ClimateGate (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 14:10:12 in Green

“Funny how the rest of the world's established media calling this "climategate", yet Huffpost thinks this is actually "SwiftHack".

Maybe what this should be called is "people leak/hacked emails showing scientists falsifying research in one institution suddenly puts into question whether any of this science is strong enough to merit a global carbon tax that supercedes any govt sovereignty and threatens to de-industrialize the first world already threatened by a crumbling industrial base-gate'”

Lee Holmes replied on Dec 02, 2009 at 15:44:23

“Works for me. It had not occurred to the algores of the world [ who should be rowing to Copenhagen and not cruising in a LEAR], that the Rust Belt is called this for a reason. The polluting manufacturing base is nearly extinct in America, neatly providing parallel to the erosion of unions. Logging and other resource exploitation has been severely curtailed, with enviros not essentially,but plainly demanding ''All Use Forbidden'' signs to be placed in the majority of Americas public lands. Any and all who do not toe their fundementalist line are The Enemy. ''Deniers'', ranchers, farmers, miners [who all vote],who are fed up with the hysteric alarmism eminating from overly wrought Green quarters. ''2035'' until Himayalan snowmelt? The IPCC now says it goofed in the wake of the Anglia e-mail scandals. It meant ''2305''. Manhattan under water? More like under heavy guard as KSM takes up residence. What of these devastating post-KATRINA hurricanes that did not cooperate with his Goreian Eminance? This whole deal smells like a Ponzi scheme writ large.”

TrooAmerican replied on Dec 02, 2009 at 14:43:59

“haha, you're funny, everything you just said is completely and utterly false.
None of the emails state that anywhere. The Republican anti Earth destroyers of all life are literally cherry picking words out of context and without any understanding of issues to claim false conclusions that are proven so, by reading the entirety of the emails in question.
Its ONLY the ignorant fools that follow the sheep deniers' off the cliff, SOLELY and UTTERLY for profiteering corporations that refuse to allow anyone but those at the top to benefit from their destruction of our fresh water supplies, land, air we breathe and worse yet, the rising sea levels they caused threatening 90% of the worlds population.
It would only be GOD's will to stop the destruction of the earth he gave us to cherish instead of Annhiliate like the Republicans Seek to do on a daily basis.”

coastalcarla replied on Dec 02, 2009 at 14:36:27

“wow - that's a mouthful! lol”
Fed Needs To 'Start Giving A Red Hot Damn About The American Public,' Says Sen. Whitehouse

Fed Needs To 'Start Giving A Red Hot Damn About The American Public,' Says Sen. Whitehouse

Commented Dec 01, 2009 at 23:24:29 in Politics

“The pressure being applied by HR 1207 and everyone educated by what Ron Paul has taught them is forcing the Fed to give a red hot damn for the first time. It's alot harder to scam and steal from the public if the curtains are being pulled away.”
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