“No one whines about slavery we just want the issue to get the proper respect & understanding. Its common knowledge that not just America had slaves so what's your point.....
You still fail to realize that majority if the slaves throughout the world were still of African descent which is black.
Maybe if you were in a country where discrimination of Irish & Indian people had a rich deep history of oppression & discrimination like blacks & native americans you would understand.
Look how the british oppressed india for so long & they still are a stuggling developing country from the aftermath of their oppression so I am pretty sure there is an indian complaining somewhere.”
“You have obviously not watched BET. The are notoriously known for their strict censorship.
Many artist videos have been banned for overly sexual or controversial content.
They also bleep out profanity that other networks allow on tv.
So don't assume or speak about what you don't know about.
No one is "allowed" to use the word its disrespectful for blacks or anyone to use.
Take your "who cares" & shove it. & please go back under a rock.”
“I understand what you are saying. But in my opinion no one should own it at all & eliminate it from our vocabulary. When whites & others start using it & openly get an "it's okay" pass it gets harder to stop the use at all.”
“She does deny using the n-word & I have heard some of her songs including "Gucci Gucci"
But I have to disagree with you saying that she doesn't approve of members of her group using the n-word.
I have seen several interviews were she has simply said "I don't use the word, V-nasty & other members use it but you can't blame them. Where they are from it's common for everybody to use it including white people"
That seems like more of a defense from her than a disapproval.”
Wintersoldier7020 on Aug 26, 2011 at 16:48:20
“My question is ...why can't they use the N-word? These girls aren't Klan members, they're from Oakland. I understand the history, I'm a minority , but I understand things change and who wants to OWN the N-word?”
“No I was in high school in a different state when this happened.
It was a hot button issue among me & my fellow high school peers of a multicultural school we were shocked to know stuff like this still went on. It was the main topic in the school newspaper & even a school walkout & a day of observance to the victim & accusers.
SO LIKE EDUCATED STUDENTS WE RESEARCHED THE EVENT & EVEN OPENLY DEBATED IN CLASS AMONGST EACH OTHER.
What's your reason of being someone probably well into their adulthood knowing nothing about it?
Even better what is the point of your comment.....”
“She wasn't trying to encourage it was a satire..............
She wanted to bring to light the flaws in the welfare program in the state of California.
She also wanted to bring to light that it is a misconception that all of the people who conduct themselves in this way are not all black. From the multicultural rainbow of women in the video.
Her purpose is to stop it not glorify”
Dottie Turner on Aug 27, 2011 at 03:07:13
“thank you for explaining that, hollygolightly, i am a definite fan of satire, and i so got the message, even though i live in san antonio, tx, there is a lot of frustration people who need to rely on public have to deal with, the most coming from misinformed or bigoted types who feel that those people who are receiving benefits are "taking" something away...and you are right, people are not only openly rude, maybe even hostile to young black women and their families when they pay with (used to be paper food stamps) their ebt, they are hostile to everyone who uses these benefits...it is truly weird. does this make any sense? i hope i didn't make it worse by responding...”
amd02148 on Aug 26, 2011 at 02:24:07
“holligolightly some people just don't get it. Lol. I do fanned/faved for you explaining it. Some people smh.”
“If a person is taunting you or anyone you know with offensive terms. Over & over not letting up on you falling you around you will snap.
Humans are animals too. We seem to forget that. We still have the same animal instincts when we feel threaten its called "fight or flight"”
“I believed that the boys should have been persecuted for attacking the victim on a charge of assault or battery.
My problem with the case was that the DA & members if the town were pushing for the boys to be charged with attempted murder. That could send them to jail for most of their lives.”
“This girl is trash & so is her supposed rap group called the "white girl mob". Their lyrics are laced with the use of the n-word.
I don't support or like the fact black rappers do it. But giving the history of the word why would a white person even use it. It's just a respect thing.”
imonlyhereforthelaughs on Aug 26, 2011 at 14:03:54
“Who cares. As soon as BET is censored, we can address the "who is allowed to use the 'n-word'" situation.”
It started with little racially provoked incidents by the white students
1.The case's beginnings can be traced to a day when a black freshman student at Jena High asked the principal at an assembly if he could sit under a courtyard tree that was known traditionally as a white student hangout. Shortly afterward, three nooses were found hanging from the tree. No white students were punished
2. White students set fire to the school's main building in protest to the principal recommended suspension for the incident.
3.Black students showed up at a majority white party & were soon attacked & beaten by a mob of white students.
4. At a local gas station a group of black youths were chased by a group of whites one with a shotgun. One black student wrestled him to the ground knocking the gun from his hand when police showed up he was charged with attempted robbery.
Yes it was unfortunate that this young man was beaten. But it steams from racially motivated mistreatment that wouldn't be stood for anymore. He provoked them. The big protest came from turning simple assault into A ATTEMPTED MURDER CHARGE by a corrupt racist DA.”
TommyMcCarthy on Aug 26, 2011 at 20:28:36
“Now I didn't mean to single you out Holly.......there are in fact MANY posters here today suggesting Barker provoked the attack.
Some are merely misinformed (I take you at your word that you heard "rumors")
Others may be... simply, making things up....this is the internet after all.
I didn't say I "knew nothing" about the case....I said that YOU seemed to know ALOT.
I only knew what I remembered contemporaneously from 2004 & 2006 (the dates of the attack....and of the defendants pleas.
The source of my comment was:
I did not remember the case as you and many others posting here seem to. So I checked......in pieces from the NYTimes, the New Orleans Times-Picayune, Friends of Justice (a civil rights group), The American Civil Liberties Union, (you may know what that is)....as well as the Southern Poverty Law Center (the PREMIER Civil Rights Organization in the US...who incidentally paid for the defense of two of the six.)
All agree...(ALL),...that Justin Barker played NO ROLE in the Noose incident(s)......the fight at the party....the arson...or the gas station melee. They also ALL agree that NO incidents of any racial taunting or intimidation on the part of Mr. Barker...can be sustantiated. Not that day....or at any time previous......and that the attack occurred absolutely and utterly without provocation of any kind on the part of Barker.
TommyMcCarthy on Aug 25, 2011 at 12:41:46
“Holli you were doing just great there.....until.... "HE provoked them"
Now you seem to know alot about the case......& I don't....so I'll just ask..
Is there something indicating that HE....the kid who was beaten......was involved in any of the incidents you mention above? Or that HE provoked them in any way?
If there is.... I'm not reading it here. The question is open to anybody btw.
Busbydav on Aug 25, 2011 at 12:36:10
“I'm not arguing with you, you obviously are more familar with the case than I but if someone provokes me and I punch them in the face it is still a crime regardless of how or why I was provoked.”