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How Cupcakes Are Keeping Women From the Top

How Cupcakes Are Keeping Women From the Top

Commented Nov 18, 2012 at 12:40:48 in Women

“Great point - I misstated that statistic. The ratio of incoming male associates to female associates is about 54:46, while the ratio of male equity partners to female equity partners is about 85:15. Fifteen percent of equity partners are women, which isn't at all the same as saying that 15 percent of female associates make it to equity partner.

All of this information can be found at the NAWL website:

Yellowcab on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:51:40

“First thing they teach you in the military is :NEVER VOLUNTEER.

Of course - considering only 14% of those who volunteer for military service are female this advice doesn't find it's way to females that much.

Volunteer to bring the cupcakes, Rachel. You'll live longer.”

tomodachi58 on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:40:22

“Out of the 46% of entry level female associates, how many of them stay in the field long enough to earn an equity partnership?

As far as volunteering for things, don't do it. No one is making you do it. I wouldn't volunteer for taking notes, and would refuse to do so if ordered, I paid to attend the class and learn, not to be responsible for someone else.

If you want to solicit help, have management make participation mandatory. Once someone volunteers to do something, there is sometimes the expectation in people's minds that they are available each and every time. That's why a lot of people, men and women, don't volunteer.

The inability to say "NO" shouldn't be the basis for a gender discrimination assumption, especially since it is not always a male boss being the one making the assumption that the woman should acquiesce. I see this also when men are expected to do physical work in an office. If i am asked nicely, and like the co-worker who can't lift something, I usually try to help, if I am told to do it, I say no.”

BrianDaubachFan on Nov 18, 2012 at 21:32:52

“Thanks for the clarification.”