“Because the alternative is big corporations. And I trust them even less, since they are not elected nor accountable. There are some problems only government intervention can fix- health care, climate change, education.”
john3509 on Jun 12, 2014 at 15:51:43
“The alternative is not big corporations. When is the last time a corporation;
Went to war, or
kept some of your paycheck, or
had some of its employees throw a flash bomb into a babies playpen, because they suspected that the people who lived there were drug dealers?
Big corporations and big government go hand in hand. Government regulations serve to protect huge corporations from competition, and when corporations go broke anyway, government bails them out.”
“Well, the reason I support government is that we need government. I may not agree with what government does sometimes, but to think it should be "strangled in a bathtub" is just silly. I suspect you are not a libertarian, but an anarchist.”
john3509 on Jun 11, 2014 at 15:48:00
“I agree, we do need government. (You're wrong. I'm not an anarchist.)
We need government to secure individual rights.
We don't need a government that's big enough to wage continual war.
We don't need government that's big enough to give billions of dollars to their rich cronies. .
These are things you objected to.
So I repeat, why do you vote for big government?”
“Definitely me. But Russia is not communist anymore. it's crony capitalism. You'll fit right in.
1. We are a representative democracy. Look it up.
2. Article 1 Sec. 8, Clause 1. We have a legal, moral and ethical claim.”
RED66 on Jun 5, 2014 at 05:44:27
“Article IV, Section 4: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence."”
RED66 on Jun 5, 2014 at 05:37:27
“"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"
“Yeah, I would not disagree with you on any of that. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, Obama's election reminded us that we still have a long way to go. Perhaps it woke us up a bit, and it certainly polarized the racists. The liberals are slow to respond. However, the right just isn't going to be able to stand in the face of the massive demographic shift going on.
I think a free education would be great, but first the K-12 system has to be fixed specifically for minority populations, or at least concurrently with it. Hard to know where to start, but education seems like a good bet. By treaty, the college I work at gives free tuition to Native Americans from anywhere in the US, and its impact is very beneficial in our native communities.”
“I just gave you a direct quote from the Vice President of the Confederacy saying that it in fact, was the cause and the reason the war was fought. That's horse's mouth stuff. Almost every single important Civil war historian in in agreement on this. ? Lincoln, Grant and Davis also all said the same thing. Are you actually going to claim that you know better than these historical figures? What more proof could you want?
And ...good lord. There were no slaves in the North. There slaves not freed by the proclamation were in border states or areas of the south occupied by the Union, and the documents set up a legal framework to emancipate them as well by 1865.
Lincoln may have started fighting with only the goal to reunite the union, but he ended with abolition being the goal for multiple reasons. For the south, it was always and ONLY, about keeping slavery going.”
Stewww on Jun 4, 2014 at 13:02:24
“The war was fought over secession. Lincoln was determined to keep the union together. The South may have seceded over slavery (primarily - NOT exclusively), but that's not the direct reason for the war. That's made slightly more clear when you realize that the Confederacy didn't make the first offensive move. The South simply wanted to secede and would have gladly done so peacefully. Lincoln wouldn't let that happen. It's pretty thoroughly documented. And if you think there were no slaves in the north, you're not really prepared to even enter this discussion. Not sure which junior high history book you copped your quotes from, but it hasn't even given you a good start in understanding the history of that time period.”
“I'm more optimistic, although I surely understand your pessimism. But ask yourself, who would have ever thought we would elect the first black president even ten years ago, or see the reversal of gay marriage, or the legalization of marijuana?
Despite the setbacks and neanderthal politics of the right, we are in a period of truly radical change in social justice in America. I think there is every reason to be hopeful that this, the thorniest of thorny issues, can be tackled in the near future. But first, we have to elect progressives. Get out and vote this November!”
KayAch7 on Jun 3, 2014 at 17:22:47
“I appreciate your optimism. :)”
mgray34 on Jun 3, 2014 at 16:18:39
“The only difference with this and other issues is that it doesn't impact white people. Gay marriage, marijuana etc. were causes that are big in that demographic as well. I look at Reparations and then I look at how our President has been treated every since he took office. We are no where close to a post racial America. Have we made great strides? Yes. Are things better in 2014 than they were in 1914? Yes. But although this country was ready to elect a black President, it's not ready to let him govern. At least half the country is not ready anyway. But we would need a lot of people on that side to support some bill on Reparations.
Then the next question. What does Reparations in 2014 look like? As I was growing up as a twenty-something in the 80s, to me Reparations was providing a free education for those who wanted it. That way a black person would have the tools and knowledge to make his/her own way. Monetary rewards are useless because people who don't have the right mindset to handle a large sum of money will only end up giving it back to people who do. That's why many athletes are broke after a professional career and lottery winners are broke within 3 years after winning the lottery.”
“No, it was fought over slavery, which was the South's source of income, but not the North's. The North was much richer in terms of capital, manpower and material. Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens said it very directly in his infamous "Cornerstone" speech:
"slavery . . . was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution" and that protecting it was the "cornerstone" of the new Confederate government."
This idea that the war was fought over anything but slavery is a nonsense that needs to die out.”
Stewww on Jun 3, 2014 at 16:28:08
“The South may have seceded over slavery, but the war wasn't fought over it. To continue believing otherwise is to ignore historical fact - to include the rather signficant fact that the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free slaves in the North. Sorry, Shan. You're way wrong. But, keep reading.”