“Blessing to you Jane. I don’t care if Dan Cathy supports gay marriage. I do care he gives money to hate groups like Exodus International and Family Research Council. These groups cloak themselves in religion, but here’s what they stand for:
Exodus International Board Member, John Schmierer, and Nazi revisionist, Scott Lively, held a conference in Uganda, where they stirred up hatred of gays by spreading lies that most homosexuals were pedophiles and child abusers. Scott Lively even claims gay people were behind the Holocaust. This conference directly led to Uganda creating a bill that called for the arrest, and execution, of gay people.
Exodus and The Family Research Council said the bill was a step in the right direction until public outrage finally made them disavow the "killing" part. But in 2010, when Congress planned to pass a resolution condemning Uganda’s “Kill The Gays” bill, The Family Research Council spent $25,000 lobbying Congress against it.
Now maybe Dan didn’t google the organizations he’s giving money, but these so-called Christian groups aren’t just against gay marriage. They spread lies and hatred, and do a disservice to all victims of child abuse, by claiming that most pedophiles are gay...when twice the number of childhood sexual abuse victims are women. They want to strip us of all our rights and remove gay people from hate crimes bills, anti-discrimination laws and anti-bullying programs.
They don’t just not want us to get married. They don’t want us to exist.”
“Can any older LGBT people imagine, when they were a kid, hearing a sitting President saying he believed in same sex marriage? I know it's hard to trust politics, but I don't doubt anyone's evolution on this issue. I've known plenty of homophobes and racists, who 'came around' because of life experience or just getting to know a gay person, or someone of a different race.
But to think the President did this for to get elected is ludicrous. Most people don't even bother to vote. Half the Republican Party self-identify as evangelicals. You can bet this issue will get them to the voting booths.
I was mainly disappointed with the President for trying to be bi-partisan for so long. That's what the President should do, but after being smacked down time after time by Republicans who made it clear their goal wasn't the betterment of our nation, but making Obama a one term President, it got old. But I am glad he kept us out of a Great Depression...skillfully handled the numerous wars the previous administration got us involved with...ignored the advise of his top advisors and made the potentially career-ending move to send in the amazingly brave Seal Team 6 to take out the leader of al Qaeda and cripple the movement....and has helped more people get affordable health care.
This is why he's getting my vote. The gay marriage is just the icing on the cake.”
“I was touched to see the promise of our great nation fulfilled, yet again, yesterday. As a bi-racial American, I'm filled with pride. But as a gay American, yesterday was indeed bittersweet.
But I want to make one thing clear. Bemoaning the advances of one segment of our population, because we're frustrated by the lack of freedom in another, accomplishes nothing. I live in California and supported "Vote No on Prop 8." But I saw very little outreach targeted at the African American and Latino community, to educate people on exactly what the proposition meant. I also met numerous people who were confused by the proposition's wording. They thought that voting yes was a vote for the rights of gays/lesbian to marry. Since minority voters went to the polls in record numbers for this historic election, it's not surprising that their votes on this proposition were high. Hindsight is 20/20, but we should have planned for this. I believe that if we had focused on reaching out to these two large voting blocs, we would have had a different result.
But the fight for equality is not over. Barack Obama's victory was a sign that the nation is moving towards equality. For some of us, it didn't happen yesterday...but it will. And we must never give up.”
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bjota on Nov 6, 2008 at 05:21:47
“You are correct that the wording made it seem that a Yes vote was for giving the gays/lesbians the right to marry. I know my mother voted Yes she thought she was supporting gay/lesbian rights. She was very upset when I told her that she voted incorrectly. I believe that a lot of people voted incorrectly and was actually shocked to see the Prop 8 pass.
You are also correct that there was very little outreach to African American communites on Vote No on Prop 8 and there was much more outreach by the YES supporters through churches especially. I think you have to blame the organizers of the for not having a good ground game. Gay and Lesbian issues are a very thorny issue in black and latin communities and there is still a lot of work to be done to break this prejudice.”
gmlaster on Nov 6, 2008 at 03:45:43
“I'm a straight, married, middle-aged mother and I have heard all the arguments against gay marriage, mostly from my ultra-religious family. But for the life of me, I cannot get anyone to explain to me what right anyone has to decide for a stranger who that person should or should not love.
You love who you love and you want who you want, and if you are an American citizen and you pay taxes to support this country, you should have ALL THE SAME RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES OF EVERY OTHER AMERICAN CITIZEN!!! NO EXCEPTIONS. This is no different than criminalizing marriage between consenting adults of different races. We got rid of miscegenation laws for this exact reason. Nobody has the right to tell an American citizen whom they can and cannot marry, whatever their sex. You can't deny an American citizen the basic human right to marry whomever they please, as it deprives them of their right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It's flat out unconstitutional.
I respect religion, but I can't stand people who go puking their faith on innocent bystanders. I have enough trouble just managing my own life. It's none of my business what you do with yours. So enough already. If gays can't marry, then we should stop expecting them to cough up tax money. If they can't have all the freedoms other Americans enjoy, they shouldn't have to keep paying for freedom they're not getting.”