“Yes, but these people were being paid *less than* min wage. That makes me wonder if they're eligible to work (e.g.: illegal aliens, underage, working for cash untaxed and ureported, etc).”
Donna52 on Dec 10, 2013 at 12:23:43
“Those are legally sanctioned, federal minimum wages for hospitality workers. It has absolutely nothing to do with one's immigration status. Ask a waitress who is a US citizen and who works in Kansas what her employer pays her per hour and she'll tell you $2.13. It's not a secret. This information is available for every state in the union.”
“Some were kitchen workers. Did you read the article?”
Todd Bolender on Dec 10, 2013 at 16:08:30
“Yes I read the article. So you think just because they deliver they don't also help with other aspects in the store? I worked as a driver for Domino's and as a wait staff person and we were required to do other things like help wash dishes or fold boxes or clean tables and help mop.”
“I'm just wondering.. Why would I ever accept a job for less than the legal minimum wage - unless for some reason it was illegal for me to work... Hmm..”
ProudNeoCon on Dec 9, 2013 at 21:39:14
“they were earning tip”
wsterr on Dec 9, 2013 at 21:24:01
“Simple. There are not enough jobs to go around, and you are out of unemployment benefits.”
Donna52 on Dec 9, 2013 at 21:02:35
“I believe minimum wage for food service (a.k.a. hospitality) workers in New York is $5. In some states it's as little as $2.13 per hour.”
HC Lives on Dec 9, 2013 at 20:54:00
“I guess Lord & Taylor isn't hiring financial analysts or personal shoppers at this time.”
michsis on Dec 9, 2013 at 20:42:43
“That's what waiters and waitresses accept. You don't know that? Restaurants do not pay minimum wage. Part of the wage comes from tips. Very elementary.”
Todd Bolender on Dec 9, 2013 at 20:34:09
“They work for tips just like a wait staff person so it's "legal" to pay them less.”
benandpogo on Dec 9, 2013 at 20:29:54
“Because if that's the only work available, and the other choice is nothing, you do what you have to. Which is why businesses need to be regulated and there needs to be a minimum wage, otherwise we'll be right back to the workhouses with no weekends or protection at all, which is where we are headed.”
daniel2161 on Dec 9, 2013 at 20:25:54
“I run into it all the time. It's because there is very little work for unskilled labor that is above minimum wage, particularly in right-to-work states. They work because like everyone they have bills to pay and often children to feed. And they need our help.”
“That's always the answer for the pro-bureaucracy crowd, right? How about doing more with less? How about *doing anything* with the copious amounts of money Government takes from us with the threat of prosecution?
“Will the media pin this on Obama, the way FEMA's failure to respond adequately was blamed on Bush? It's the same FEMA, isn't it?”
barry11362 on Dec 8, 2013 at 23:38:26
“IF you read the article, not skim it you will find the maps in question were updated badly in the MID 2000's. Want to try & remember who was the President then?”
nana2roaw on Dec 8, 2013 at 15:58:23
“Excuse me but the Republican Party's goal for the last twenty years is to make the government so small that they can drown it in a bathtub. You want better maps. Pay more taxes.”
Andy Osinski on Dec 8, 2013 at 15:15:40
See, when GWB took over from Wild Bill, everything was running smoothly. The giant bureaucracy known as the fedgov handled like a sports car. If things were getting a bit out of balance, it could be nudged back with little effort. If things got really bad, it could stop on a dime and give you change.
Within a year of GWB's inauguration, response time by the fedgov to anything slowed down dramatically. That's why 9-11 was his fault--things were still running at the Wild Bill pace until then so he could have seen it coming. But by the time Katrina hit, everything, including FEMA response time, had slowed down considerably, so the Katrina response was Bush's fault.
Advance several years. BO is inaugurated but the fedgov is still running at a snails pace. We all know that it's harder to get a bureaucracy moving than it is to slow it down. That's why we're still in Afghanistan and why, according to the BLS, we have two million fewer people working today than we had at the same time in 2009, despite a population increase of 10 million. The fedgov is still moving too slowly.
Consequently, all of the Sandy damage is........wait for it.......Bush's fault.”
“No, *your* post is nonsense. 3% of illegal aliens are involved in Agriculture jobs (the "crap" jobs). The rest are displacing Americans in unskilled jobs in the Hospitality and Food Service industries, along with semi-skilled labor in the Construction and Processing industries.
All of the above were jobs *Americans used to do* - until illegal aliens drove the wage floor too low.”
“I agree; sometimes our Government gets it right. Big Science is one thing our Government does well and it yields positive economic benefits for us and the world. We should continue to invest in projects like these, so people should stop arguing that the defense contractors and the quasi-government corporations that are often tied to the DOD are of no benefit. They have given us the internet, the microwave oven and a slew of other smaller but very useful technologies. DARPA is just one of the more famous, but there are many such companies.”
“Perhaps your lack of experience with impact analysis is clouding your judgment. It's quite clear you have no background in it and are therefore in no position to judge whether or not someone experienced in the matter is correct.”
jnratliff on Dec 7, 2013 at 16:04:27
“Perhaps your hatred of the black man in the white house is clouding your judgement? Like Shanghai!”
“The examples you mention are for the most part run on High Availability platforms, because of the value and impact of a loss of service. Do they crash? Well the power grid control systems did once - in my entire life.
Thanks for pointing up the obvious, though. People are done irreparable harm when certain services are not delivered in a timely fashion. For example, the delays that might be induced when a person shows up at their doctor with, say, a creatinine level of 4 (that's emergent and life-threatening but the patient usually doesn't know what's going on; they just want to go to sleep).
Let's say a doctor turns them away because they aren't insured due to the aforementioned glitch; being in renal failure, their creatinine will spike to life-threatening levels within hours. There are a thousand medical conditions that may or may not appear emergent at the moment; turning a person away due to lack of coverage is a real possibility; so is death.
So, yes, delivery of medical care *is* a life and death proposition.”
“No, you didn't! You checked the prices; you didn't enroll.
But hey, what are little technicalities like paying an insurer, receiving a policy, Service Provider acceptance of the policy, billing and payment, right?
The only people who need e concerned with the finer details of auth/e, credential and information exchange are the IT people supporting the app. For me, any disconnect anywhere along the chain is unacceptable; the entire process has to function to deliver the end goal: Healthcare Services.
I sure hope you're not actually involved in anything that involves precision at your Uni.”
“This isn't a checkbook application; this is literally life and death for some people.
This is why those of us with a whit of sense didn't want Government in this space.”
jnratliff on Dec 7, 2013 at 10:25:46
“I have never seen one of you republicans with a whit of sense.
Where can they be found?
On Newt's Moon base?”
E-Nation on Dec 7, 2013 at 09:55:05
“Life and death. Guess what, medical equipment runs on software. So do our power grid, our street lights, our financial system, our vehicles, etc. Many of these applications crash a lot, and guess what a lot of them run on? Thousands if not millions of people have been injured AND killed from glitches in these applications, every single item I named, and then some. Do your research.”
“1 in 10? We're literally talking about life-and-death programs here. Unacceptable on any level.
This is why people don't want the Government messing with their lives.”
Wyvern Wycliffe on Dec 7, 2013 at 12:17:37
“Can you find a person who honestly tried to enroll in the federal exchange and who actually went through the signup for a policy, who didn't succeed? It worked fine for me, but of course my company subsidized plan is excellent and of course if I don't accept the company plan, I don't get the money to put toward anything else unless I renegotiate my salary. If the ACA plans really looked that great to me, I would be doing exactly that. I never thought that would be likely -- I'm in a pretty good pool as a university employee, and my insurance is hard to beat on price or on coverage. I'd have to go with a "Platinum" plan to match it, but for me, those plans are in the $700/month range.
Nevertheless, I did go through the whole process, with no problems at all. Yeah, I'm in the 90%. Find me someone who had the 10% experience and let them describe the specific problem they encountered. A glitch in the auth system? Password recovery? HTTP 500 errors? It's important to understand *what* failed and what the resolution was. (It's not important if your only purpose is to criticize the government, though.)
Nobody has died because HealthCare.gov couldn't email their password reset link.”
Calvin Watlington on Dec 7, 2013 at 10:06:03
“Yeah genius, not getting on a website is the equivalent of a plane crash.”
“He was asked, denied that he'd met the man and just recently changed his story.
So, no, lying as a first measure of defense isn't really a good strategy; no matter who it hurts. Unfortunately, it just adds another payer of deception and lends to the appearance that this uncle, who was ordered to leave the US by an immigration court, is being given special dispensation because of his famous nephew.
“It's really unfortunate to pay as much as we do for Governance and feel so thoroughly ripped off. If people were allowed to grade the Government and pay taxes according to the quantifiable value it added, most who are actually paying into the system would legitimately give it a low C, D or F.”
user406324 on Dec 6, 2013 at 21:52:09
“Only on their (gov't's) best day which isn't too often. Plus I get the double whammy as I am in the worst state for corruption....Illinois....”