“Mr. Snowden demonstrated a self-centered, immature attitude as he justified and blamed others for his actions. So, blame the State Department for pulling his passport? Well, of course they would pull it; he leaked classified material! Justify NOT being a spy because he didn' bring anything with him? If one believes he hasn't been thoroughly "debriefed" by Russian authorities, then you are living in a dream world with Mr. Snowden!
Mr. Snowden willingly committed treason and wants to get away with it. This is his primary motivation.”
“Watching flies struggle and suffer after pulling their wings off and then ridicule them for not being fast enough to escape the torture-this is today's GOP.
Why people elect them to public office is beyond understanding.”
“The real political theater going on is the diminishing of the antics of Congress so people will not pay attention to who is at fault now and in the future.
The idea on the right might be that so much obstruction and manufactured crises in Congress will come to be the new normal and people will ignore what is going on or become so totally disgusted they won't vote. I personally will not forget to vote in 2014.”
“Why would the Chamber of Commerce even want to be involved with Sen. Cruz? It is not just about the tactics Sen. Cruz used in what was a lost cause before they started. It is about a mystifying final goal that would require such tactics.
The Tea Party states all their anger is justified based on the fact there was no bipartisan support for the Affordable Care Act when it was passed. Really? The ugly hate on display is way over the top to be justifiable just because no Republican voted for it. The is equating destroying the world economy to the relief of their anger and this makes absolutely no sense.”
“When political "tactics" don't make sense to anyone, even some of the most savvy, time to consider irrational motives.
I think demands to defund the ACA were just a smokescreen for appearances to retain support from the far right base...this explained and justified to the base whatever unfolded was righteous. Everyone knew this was a lost cause from the start; it had to be covering ulterior motives. Sure, had things gone their way, the ACA would be history, but more importantly, the next manufactured crisis six weeks down the road would bring more devastation to government, and six more weeks later, even more. Destruction is the ultimate goal.”
“" ... in order to win concessions that included everything from restricting free contraception access, to getting rid of health care subsidies for congressional staffers and making it harder for the Treasury Department to save the country from default -- items that had no chance of passing the Democratic-controlled Senate. "
The first two concessions are just plain stupid meanness. Restricting the US Treasury would facilitate plans of the GOP nuts to destroy the country.”
DUSAA-1775 on Oct 16, 2013 at 06:15:15
“...' getting rid of health care subsidies for congressional staffers ...'
ummm... the democrats rammed through obamacare and Pater obama signed it. Obama care mandates that congress and staff get their insurance through the exchanges. Why are you blaming the republicans when it was the democrats who got rid of the subsidies ?”
thinker43 on Oct 16, 2013 at 06:08:39
“Notice they're not above throwing their own staffers to the wolves but won't put their own healthcare benefits - paid for by taxpayers - up for cuts. How typical of the "don't care about anyone but me" Republicans.”
“We all saw what happened when the first round of sequester cuts impacted flights out of Washington. The GOP only wants to fund what they like, which is not saying much. The push for more and more cuts with no increase in revenue can only end one way.
The GOP is starving the entire government as a means to end all earned entitlements, force government workers out of a job, destroy government agencies they don't like, and make the US a major third world country.
I think I liked it better when Congress was doing nothing.”
“The current crisis was planned and carried out to nullify the normal democratic process. Changing the rules is not illegal, but it deepens an already divided government and demonstrates one side is unwilling to work under normal standards and practices.
If Democrats had done this, Fox News would be calling it a direct assault on the USA.
Political brinksmanship is a nicer sounding term for the political games being played. Even the media refers to "having the upper hand", "leverage", "moving the goalposts" in order to dehumanize the games being played as if there were no real moral consequences.
This country is a shameful example of greed and thirst for power and shows a lack of regard for its own people.”
“Well, if you are talking about the 14th Amendment, a problem could be in lack of clarity of responsibility for honoring the debt...is it the President or the Congress? This has never been tested because the US has never defaulted on the debt.
If, perhaps, the President acted to honor the debt on his own authority, a law suit would be filed the same day and his action could be stopped by the courts until resolved and the US would default anyway.
If you are talking about whether or not some in Congress are acting like domestic enemies of the country or are seditious, I'm with you in asking what gives?”
“Before the Revolutionary War, ALL colonies agreed to face the consequences. During and after the Revolution, some states suffered more than others economically; however, the agrarian economies of the states were often heralded by British soldiers and mercenaries in their letters home as lands of plenty.
Today's political battle from the right has totally missed the point of a balanced approach to debt, where the negative impacts on the economy are reduced by adequate tax increases, stimulus, and fair cuts to budget items that do not harm people. The American people know we have to pay for the spending of several previous Congresses, but we should not have to give up a large chunk of our personal economic security, health benefits, food assistance, education, etc. All Americans need to pay their fair share. It may take a bit longer with a balanced approach, but our economy and our people will not be forced into an austerity from which they cannot personally recover.”
“The President will be the only adult in the room at the end and I'm sure he knows it.
It was not President Obama making unreasonable demands on Congress that brought this about. It was the reverse and knowingly doomed to failure, not because the President will refuse to budge, but because the GOP would be destroyed in the process.
The anarchists in Congress are now on national display and have to face the predictable anger and frustration of the American people.”
dknowles60 on Oct 12, 2013 at 16:50:24
“quit the bs. wimpy john is all ready giving Obama every thing but Obama care”
bucktownboy on Oct 12, 2013 at 11:02:13
“The only adult stomping his foot" It has to include my bill , my Obamacare, or I will sign NOTHING" THAT adult?”
bucktownboy on Oct 12, 2013 at 10:51:33
“It was the President and the Democrat Senate who continues to reject the bills paying for programs sent to him from the House. If the Senate votes and then the President signs , programs will be paid for, these "hardship" cases can go back to work and there will be no shutdown . All because Obama doesn't want to delay participation in his Obamacare program. The same program he has delayed participation for SOME groups , for SOME people and even exemption from this program for SOME other groups”
Jen Gabbard on Oct 12, 2013 at 10:12:53
“And the American voter is not about to forget either..:)”
You do realize most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. How utterly insensitive and totally ignorant!”
glenler on Oct 12, 2013 at 09:47:25
“I live paycheck to paycheck and have for 20 years. When I was laid off I didn't tap my 401k for a year. I'm glad it was there though even though the government stole a hugh chunk of it. Now that was insensititve”
How in the world of reasonable thought can anyone conclude "this Obamacare" is the reason for the country's current situation when the law hasn't even been implemented?
Demagogic positions portending doom are irrationally out of proportion with the law itself, which does not impact 85% of Americans.
To threaten the livelihoods of ALL Americans due to fear and misinformation is deplorable.”
“Assigning blame is natural, but it solves nothing unless Congress passes the legislation and the President signs it.
The demands made by a relative few in the House may resonate with a relative few constituents. Having experienced the Newt Gingrich debacle as Speaker, a majority of Americans at that time echoed their anger with the threats and demands from the House. Those responsible this time around were daft to think Americans would rally around them. They continue to be detached from the American people, and continue with wishful thinking rather than reality. The bottom line is that ALL Americans will be hurt, even the relative few supporting the shutdown, unless more centrist or more reasonable deals are struck.
The President knows he is the ultimate adult in the room.”
dknowles60 on Oct 12, 2013 at 19:23:41
“then tell him to act like an adult. a adult done send in the park police to attack ww2 vets”
“No. This is what happens when faith-based politics of a literal handful of people are elected to Congress who have no idea how "Washington works" and then attempt to change it regardless of the consequences to the country.”
“Wishful thinking, but a good indicator of the anger and frustration with Congress for not serving national interests.
The American people cannot "fire 'em all", so the desire runs up against a brick wall and the point of it remains moot.
Elected officials to the US government have a responsibility to the people of the entire country, not only their constituents, because their votes in Congress impact every American man, woman, and child. Those officials accepting or believing the impossible and promising to deliver need to be brought back down to Earth. Constituents need to realize the harm being done to the many will include them, not exclude them just because they feel their cause is righteous.”
“I connect the dots in this way: Small government ... Deregulation ... Starvation of programs ... The Paul Ryan Budget and Paul Ryan meeting with the Koch Brothers ... Nullification of the election ... Unfettered capitalism ... Hatred for the person occupying the White House”
“The deficit has nearly been cut in half. The debt ceiling increase is to authorize borrowing for what Congress has already spent. A budget has been passed, but Congress has refused to allow it to go to conference committee.
Now, since it is Congress who controls the spending and makes borrowing necessary, what is your point?”
whaas2 on Oct 10, 2013 at 22:54:54
“The deficit was not cut in half. The last full fiscal year under the Bush administration was 2008 and the deficit for that year was 458.55 billion dollars.”
Gary Hettinger on Oct 10, 2013 at 17:52:53
“actually Boehner has not allowed the budget to go to committee, the Dems even agreed to the 986 billion House budget as a starting point”