marinara's Comments (318)
Thomas Friedman -- Hasbara GrandMaster Or Elitist Dupe?
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 22:40:29 in Politics
“Friedman reminds me of Bill Kristol in how he can ignore the elephant in the room and instead focus on nonsense to prove his argument. Thank you Ms. Narwani!”
How the Media and the GOP Turn Lies Into Zombie Lies: A Health Care Case Study
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:42:13 in Politics
“With all respect to Mr. Sirota, but this blog needs to address some of the math. For instance, the Health Bill assumes that costs increase conservatively, and the budget assumes that taxes are collected for 5 years before the bill comes into effect. If the bill was enacted today, the Republican numbers start looking correct.”
quinndiesel replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 22:07:51
“But the Bill isn't entirely enacted today. That is why the Republicans are wrong. Some of the measures, including the public option are not enacted for several years. Republican numbers have not been correct since the creation of the Laffer Curve. They are a shell game, a bait and switch to do exactly what Reagan's budget director Stockman admitted that this is "always a Trojan horse to bring down the top rate" for the wealthy. It's kind of hard to sell 'trickle down,'" Their numbers are horseshit. It makes me wish we at least had Nixon in office. No more crooked, and even he said, "We're all Keynesians now."”
It's All About The Jobs, Smartie!
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:08:31 in Politics
“From MS. Choate's blog:"Will President Obama invite these three Members to his Jobs Conference? The answer will be a neat little test of the President's seriousness about the jobs issue."
Obama is:
1. Pro-Wall St.
2. Anti- Deficit.
Therefore, not a chance he will do anything but provide vague lip service.”
Obama is:
1. Pro-Wall St.
2. Anti- Deficit.
Therefore, not a chance he will do anything but provide vague lip service.”
Why is Obama Championing Bush's Financial Wrecking Crew?
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:04:47 in Business
“Nice Blog, Mr. Black!”
Economic Meltdown -- A Call for Systemic Change
Commented Nov 20, 2009 at 21:23:08 in Business
“crazy!”
Ready, Fire! Aim?
Commented Nov 20, 2009 at 21:09:54 in Business
“From Mr. Ellis' Blog: "Sure, Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan Chase made huge profits. Thank goodness they were taking the risks and making the markets that earned those profits. Without their work, the market panic would have cut deeper into our economy and lasted longer - and we'd all be worse off today - much worse off."
Exactly how can you say this to be true? It seems so obvious to you that the banks have restored normalcy. The problem is that it's only back to normal FOR WALL ST. NOT MAIN ST. For Main St. the credit market is still frozen. I mean small biz can't get loans, institutions can't issue bonds.
I allege that the counter-cyclical federal policy is the only thing keeping the financial industry profitable. Those same policies aren't doing anything for the average worker, as they have to shoulder the gambling debts incurred by AIG and Freddie and Fannie.
The truth is, Wall St. would make a profit if America was sinking into ruins, just as it made a profit during the last century. The connection Mr. Ellis insists on, between Wall St. and our GDP, is only on paper.”
Exactly how can you say this to be true? It seems so obvious to you that the banks have restored normalcy. The problem is that it's only back to normal FOR WALL ST. NOT MAIN ST. For Main St. the credit market is still frozen. I mean small biz can't get loans, institutions can't issue bonds.
I allege that the counter-cyclical federal policy is the only thing keeping the financial industry profitable. Those same policies aren't doing anything for the average worker, as they have to shoulder the gambling debts incurred by AIG and Freddie and Fannie.
The truth is, Wall St. would make a profit if America was sinking into ruins, just as it made a profit during the last century. The connection Mr. Ellis insists on, between Wall St. and our GDP, is only on paper.”
Navigating the Jobs Crisis: 3 Strategies for Real Economic Recovery
Commented Nov 20, 2009 at 15:03:09 in Business
“From Mr. Carr's Blog: "We should implement policies that encourage the creation of reliable and sustainable jobs"
This is never going to happen. Read how 90% of the stimulus actually goes overseas.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leo-w-gerard/hell-if-dc-didnt-offshore_b_363647.html
Our Congress and Administration doesn't care how the money is spent. Just as long as they don't appear controversial and get forced out like Van Jones was trash heaped.”
This is never going to happen. Read how 90% of the stimulus actually goes overseas.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leo-w-gerard/hell-if-dc-didnt-offshore_b_363647.html
Our Congress and Administration doesn't care how the money is spent. Just as long as they don't appear controversial and get forced out like Van Jones was trash heaped.”
Navigating the Jobs Crisis: 3 Strategies for Real Economic Recovery
Commented Nov 20, 2009 at 14:49:36 in Business
“Obama says the unemployment problem is just a lagging indicator. In the Wall St. sphere, what he said is more or less correct.
As an unemployed American, I would like to have Obama say that to my face.”
As an unemployed American, I would like to have Obama say that to my face.”
Our Jobless Recovery Is Too Slow! More "Stimulus" Spending Isn't the Answer!
Commented Nov 20, 2009 at 14:45:10 in Politics
“common sense is not the answer when hundreds of trillions are floating around in unregulated markets. But, I love the blog Mr. Davis!”
Please Welcome Peter W. Galbraith and Andrew J. Hall to the Billionaire Bailout Society
Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 13:31:07 in Business
“Mr. Leopold also mentions that Congress and the Cabinet fall over themselves to give gifts to this privileged class of billionaires. This is obvious to everyone.
It follows that the billionaires don't deserve the admiration and special attentions of our government.
Do the billionaires deserve their giant awards? That case is somewhat separate and more difficult to make. Let's start digging their grave now :)”
It follows that the billionaires don't deserve the admiration and special attentions of our government.
Do the billionaires deserve their giant awards? That case is somewhat separate and more difficult to make. Let's start digging their grave now :)”
New York Times Blames Workers for Unemployment?
Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 08:20:11 in Business
“Yes. And more clearly if we consider the wealthy different from those who just have income. The wealthy will protect their wealth, even if it costs income for the economically vulnerable.”
Afghanistan: Buckle Your Seat Belts
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 16:38:46 in World
“Remember the war was financed off balance sheet, as a budget supplemental. That's like the proverbial blank check.”
Afghanistan: Buckle Your Seat Belts
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 16:32:29 in World
“Gerald Celente says there will be more terror attacks very soon. He backs up his prediction with razor sharp analysis of current trends. I predict he's right about the terror attacks. So Obama will get plenty of support by a terrorized American nation.”
New York Times Blames Workers for Unemployment?
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 16:09:51 in Business
“No, it's voters telling our government that we don't care about unpaid overtime for asian child labor. But then worker's rights have fallen off the democratic platform, i suppose.”
Of Billionaires, Bailouts and Bonuses
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 15:16:57 in Business
“If I may, an addition to the "cons" list.
a. Wall st. made their profits by misrepresenting paper, selling junk bonds as quality paper.
b. banks are guilty of helping clients evade taxes, evade regulation
c. rather than the market stabilizing prices, the market is prone to bubbles that fleece ordinary investors
d. wall st. allows predatory takeovers, in the sense they execute a hostile takeover on a company, load that company with debt, and sell it off in pieces.
e. much like item d, but wall st. puts the company in bankruptcy as a pretext to breaking the union.
f. the wall st. wealth is not actually real wealth. Rather it just appears so on paper.
g. predatory lending has real effects, especially with the poor.
h. wars have been started over assets being liquidated. Seriously.”
a. Wall st. made their profits by misrepresenting paper, selling junk bonds as quality paper.
b. banks are guilty of helping clients evade taxes, evade regulation
c. rather than the market stabilizing prices, the market is prone to bubbles that fleece ordinary investors
d. wall st. allows predatory takeovers, in the sense they execute a hostile takeover on a company, load that company with debt, and sell it off in pieces.
e. much like item d, but wall st. puts the company in bankruptcy as a pretext to breaking the union.
f. the wall st. wealth is not actually real wealth. Rather it just appears so on paper.
g. predatory lending has real effects, especially with the poor.
h. wars have been started over assets being liquidated. Seriously.”
Dreamwalker420 replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 01:48:30
“While I agree with you, mostly ... Wall Street wealth is real. It's as real as any other wealth, backed by the Sheriff with the gun serving the eviction notice on a widowed mother of five. That gun is very real. Loosing your children to this obscenity is very real.
Ever more the reason for change to the "system."”
Ever more the reason for change to the "system."”
Of Billionaires, Bailouts and Bonuses
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 14:57:22 in Business
“very true, and very sad that you have such an accurate answer. :)”
Of Billionaires, Bailouts and Bonuses
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 10:02:27 in Business
“Les, why are you trying to fit a rational solution to what is a moral problem?
Allowing fees to be skimmed from a retiree, is a moral dilemma. A woman who can't afford to pay for her pain meds, that's a moral problem. Growing the market cap for your corporation, now that's just pure numbers.
100 years ago, corporate charters had to show they provided a clear good for the public interest. Seems like an age ago.
http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC41/Rowe.htm
^documents how corporations used to be linked to the public interest.”
Allowing fees to be skimmed from a retiree, is a moral dilemma. A woman who can't afford to pay for her pain meds, that's a moral problem. Growing the market cap for your corporation, now that's just pure numbers.
100 years ago, corporate charters had to show they provided a clear good for the public interest. Seems like an age ago.
http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC41/Rowe.htm
^documents how corporations used to be linked to the public interest.”
DiogenesOfAlaska replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 13:28:55
“It is BOTH a moral problem AND a total loss of legitimacy in terms of arguments.
The publicly stated view of the financial sector is BOTH demonstrably false AND morally reprehensible.
If you ask me, a solution of either one of the problems (the moral one or the argumentative one) is possible only if the two are discussed separately. (Even though they interact.)
The reason is that otherwise what happens is that any time you point out a moral shortcoming the response will be a false argument and any time you respond to a false argument with moral outrage the response will be that some fancy facts about the hidden truths of finance (which are freely made up as you go along) require us to accept immorality.
It's a huge one-two punch.”
The publicly stated view of the financial sector is BOTH demonstrably false AND morally reprehensible.
If you ask me, a solution of either one of the problems (the moral one or the argumentative one) is possible only if the two are discussed separately. (Even though they interact.)
The reason is that otherwise what happens is that any time you point out a moral shortcoming the response will be a false argument and any time you respond to a false argument with moral outrage the response will be that some fancy facts about the hidden truths of finance (which are freely made up as you go along) require us to accept immorality.
It's a huge one-two punch.”
Why It's Wrong When Wrongdoers Are Allowed to Admit No Wrongdoing
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 09:32:44 in Business
“I wanted prosecution for those in our government who used torture to gain false confessions. I applaud Ms. Huffington for reaching the same conclusion.”
Obama's Choice: Jobs Now or Republicans in November
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 00:48:28 in Business
“Ok, you say, robbing peter to pay paul,is very bad, that's what more taxes are. I say, what good does having 30M men out of work do? Half the children on food stamps? Let's choose the lesser of two evils.”
Obama's Choice: Jobs Now or Republicans in November
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 00:45:58 in Business
“yeah but they are politicians, which means they can turn on a dime, when the voters make their determination clear.”
Obama Is Timid Because Progressives Are Timid
Commented Nov 06, 2009 at 06:32:10 in Politics
“progressives are spread out over what is a large number of issues. That's not news. Electing a black democrat and then finding out hes as far right as Bush, that's a surprise.”
S E Martin replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 18:26:24
“As far right as Bush? Are you serious?
I'll admit Obama's to the right of where I thought he'd be (which is why I must laugh when Fox News calls him a socialist), but he's not as far right as Bush.
Are you using hyperbole on purpose here?”
I'll admit Obama's to the right of where I thought he'd be (which is why I must laugh when Fox News calls him a socialist), but he's not as far right as Bush.
Are you using hyperbole on purpose here?”
The IMF and Our Increased Dependence on Faux-Experts
Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 23:13:02 in Business
“The problem is that the people in charge aren't responsible for the people affected. If they had the possibility of losing their own lunch, things would be completely different.”
And They Call It Ponzi Love
Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 22:57:18 in Business
“"Why would you worry about that? The future is far away and we all have to make money now!"
So sad, it's funny. Why would anyone be responsible for his own behavior?
On a related note: I think I know what went wrong with our system of capitalism.”
So sad, it's funny. Why would anyone be responsible for his own behavior?
On a related note: I think I know what went wrong with our system of capitalism.”
hp blogger Lita Smith-Mines replied on Nov 06, 2009 at 09:11:12
“You ask : "Why would anyone be responsible for his own behavior?" Isn't that what Chairman Greenspan based his whole relationship with the financial industry on? That they'd all do the right things for themselves and the nation as a whole? :-(”
The Approaching Muni Bond Collapse
Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 22:53:45 in Business
“Would like to see more about the real effects that the muni bonds crash, I mean the inability for counties, cities and pubic utility boards, for them to issue new bonds or renew the bonds.
I guess you can't predict the future. Why did you set my expectations so high? Mr. Johnson. Just kiddin.”
I guess you can't predict the future. Why did you set my expectations so high? Mr. Johnson. Just kiddin.”
The Death of a Witness and the Silencing of the Scam
Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 21:33:44 in Business
“Awesome Blog! Mr. Epstein”


