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Marines Killed In Nevada During Training Exercise Were Young, Lives Ahead

Marines Killed In Nevada During Training Exercise Were Young, Lives Ahead

Commented Mar 21, 2013 at 23:26:17 in Politics

“I concur with you on this - definitely not standard to procedure to have a blanket suspension on all 60mm ammo - just the lot(s) involved in the accident but with the media coverage this is garnering people are demanding answers. These people need to let it go and let the families and friends mourn and let the military officials conduct their investigation. No one person other than ones involved and affected need to know the specifics. IYAAYAS”
Marines Killed In Nevada During Training Exercise Were Young, Lives Ahead

Marines Killed In Nevada During Training Exercise Were Young, Lives Ahead

Commented Mar 21, 2013 at 14:22:52 in Politics

“Ammunition is no joke - safety cannot be stressed enough when dealing with it - I am not kidding when I say that nearly all standard procedures when handling or transporting ammunition and explosives are written in blood. So yes a full investigation will be conducted and it will be thorough and there will be no cover ups. Everyone demands an answer for everything - when they don't get that answer they get upset - when that answer isn't what they feel is what it should be they still get upset. So I end with this - You do not need to be informed of the specifics of the investigation or the end results - that information needs to be reserved for the families of the Marines and the personnel directly involved with the incident.”

James Wills on Mar 21, 2013 at 15:05:05

“my respects to those you mentioned. i grew up down wind and stream from hanford washington and 5 miles from the oregon army ordance depot that stored munitions like hawthorne. many of the munitions were too dangerous to transport upon decomission, and incineratiers were built on site to burn. . large amounts of biological and toxic gases were stored there in shells that overtime leaked.. these were national secrets over a period of 50 years..and people died”
Marines Killed In Nevada During Training Exercise Were Young, Lives Ahead

Marines Killed In Nevada During Training Exercise Were Young, Lives Ahead

Commented Mar 21, 2013 at 14:21:26 in Politics

“I served in the Marine Corps as an ammunition technician. The investigation was initiated immediately when the accident occurred - standard procedure. Information is gathered at the lowest level then sent up the chain. As was in this situation, when death or injury is incurred, a telephonic report is sent up within 24 hours (this will happen sooner though depending on the severity and I am confident that this report was made within hours). Once all of the initial reports are sent up, the military releases a message imposing a suspension of the lot number(s) of ammunition involved. Also the weapon system involved (if recoverable and operational) will be segregated. What is odd about this case that I have never seen before is that top Marine officials placed a blanket suspension on all 60mm mortar ammunition and weapon systems less combat use. I think they did this due to the high visibility of media coverage. However with standard procedures, the lot(s) in question will be suspended and messages will be sent out - Ammo Supply Points can't issue this ammo and units using it must turn it in immediately. The manufacturer will then conduct tests on the subject ammunition and the weapon system in which the malfunction occurred will be investigated as well. Once the overall investigation is over another message will be released saying either the lot(s) are faulty and are condemned, the weapon malfunctioned and the ammunition is not faulty, or it was improper procedures on the range.”

skeakins on Mar 21, 2013 at 15:03:02

“Fanned. A well presented, reasonable post. Thank you.”

James Wills on Mar 21, 2013 at 14:48:11

“thank you for your service and your reply”