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Conrad: Senate Health Care Bill Is Basically The Final Version
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 16:15:09 in Politics
“Well, there are folks on the left as well as the right who aren't fond of the Senate bill, albeit for different reasons.”
Pregnant Iraq Personnel Could Face Court-Martial: Army General Bans Pregnancy
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 16:00:32 in Politics
“In related news, President Obama has announced the formation of a Ministry of Love within the Department of Defense...
austin4 replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 16:22:42
“You reichwingers are always saying the President should listen to the Generals on the ground.”
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 15:38:00 in Politics
“If there's a Green, a Democratic Socialist, or a P&F candidate in your district..
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 15:37:17 in Politics
“I'm pretty sure Boy George, or at least Darth Vader, was just as cynical.
What bothers me is I wanted add the prior administration was more cynical, but after Rahm Emanuel's recent comments combined with Obama talking about what great reform the Senate bill is, I couldn't write that.”
What bothers me is I wanted add the prior administration was more cynical, but after Rahm Emanuel's recent comments combined with Obama talking about what great reform the Senate bill is, I couldn't write that.”
Left/Right Populist Outrage Will Defeat Senate Health Care Bill
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 15:25:18 in Politics
“What about Geithner?”
Left/Right Populist Outrage Will Defeat Senate Health Care Bill
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 15:10:28 in Politics
“Ron Paul's racial insensitivity is stunning.
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Left/Right Populist Outrage Will Defeat Senate Health Care Bill
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 15:08:06 in Politics
“Um - once you get past the winking and the youbetchyas and the folksiness and her GILFiness and get down to what Sarah from Alaska actually offers by way of policy prescriptions, she nothing more to offer than boilerplate Milton Friedman - cut taxes & let the free market sort it out.
Problem is, the free market sorted out the taxpayers last year. Or didn't you notice the biggest sacking of a national treasury in the history of humanity?”
Problem is, the free market sorted out the taxpayers last year. Or didn't you notice the biggest sacking of a national treasury in the history of humanity?”
Left/Right Populist Outrage Will Defeat Senate Health Care Bill
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 15:03:22 in Politics
“It's a pocketbook issue. When folks have to start cutting big checks for this, it's gonna put 'em in a surly mood.”
Olympia Snowe Will Vote Against Health Care Reform
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 14:55:42 in Politics
“She could have a fight on her hands in 2012. Maine's legislature is heavily Democratic, and she's coming out against a proposal moderate Republicans would have embraced not so long ago.”
Conrad: Senate Health Care Bill Is Basically The Final Version
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 14:26:51 in Politics
“China's a great example of the problems of dictatorship as well. Consider the untold suffering during their "great leap forward".
Oh, and China today isn't a true dictatorship. The party leader has a central committee and generals to deal with. He doesn't simply get to run around saying, off with his head.
In theory, your social studies teacher has a point. And he was explaining Hobbes' Leviathan to you. The rub is, what if your dictator ain't so benevolent? Without the ability to remove him, the people suffer.
In the past century and a half or so, we've had woefully few benevolent dictators, and they simply haven't balanced out the Stalins & Hitlers & Pol Pots & Idi Amins & that weird runt in North Korea.”
Oh, and China today isn't a true dictatorship. The party leader has a central committee and generals to deal with. He doesn't simply get to run around saying, off with his head.
In theory, your social studies teacher has a point. And he was explaining Hobbes' Leviathan to you. The rub is, what if your dictator ain't so benevolent? Without the ability to remove him, the people suffer.
In the past century and a half or so, we've had woefully few benevolent dictators, and they simply haven't balanced out the Stalins & Hitlers & Pol Pots & Idi Amins & that weird runt in North Korea.”
Conrad: Senate Health Care Bill Is Basically The Final Version
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 14:18:14 in Politics
“We'd probably get more socialists and more libertarians in the House if elections were held nationally by party slate in place of the current district system.”
Conrad: Senate Health Care Bill Is Basically The Final Version
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 14:16:23 in Politics
“Senator Conrad can generate as much hot air as he wants at this point.
He knows as well as everyone else that the Dems have dug themselves a huge hole with this thing. The conventional wisdom in both Houses and the White House is that a bill needs to be delivered to the President's desk and signed.
Both Houses understand the difference is going to have to be split. Politically, none of these senators at this point has the option of bolting. Even Lieberman understands he's married to whatever the conference committee produces now - if he wants to keep his saggy derriere on that committee chair he's got.”
He knows as well as everyone else that the Dems have dug themselves a huge hole with this thing. The conventional wisdom in both Houses and the White House is that a bill needs to be delivered to the President's desk and signed.
Both Houses understand the difference is going to have to be split. Politically, none of these senators at this point has the option of bolting. Even Lieberman understands he's married to whatever the conference committee produces now - if he wants to keep his saggy derriere on that committee chair he's got.”
StillIRise replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 15:01:46
“Hmmmm! It seems like I just heard someone say the same thing on Fox News!!!!”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 05:30:34 in Politics
“Cuba's health care system overall is rated slightly above the US.
A lot of people think communist Cuba = evil. Cuba certainly has its issues, and in many respects I wouldn't swap Cuba for the US. However, a dispassionate analysis of health care outcomes for the entire population shows that for a country as poor as Cuba, they're doing quite a bit.
The very fact that a poor COMMUNIST country can produce some better outcomes than the uber-rich uber-capitalist US should make the defenders of our broken system hang their heads in shame.
Instead, the soulless vampires pay off their lackeys in Congress and keep fleecing ordinary Americans.”
A lot of people think communist Cuba = evil. Cuba certainly has its issues, and in many respects I wouldn't swap Cuba for the US. However, a dispassionate analysis of health care outcomes for the entire population shows that for a country as poor as Cuba, they're doing quite a bit.
The very fact that a poor COMMUNIST country can produce some better outcomes than the uber-rich uber-capitalist US should make the defenders of our broken system hang their heads in shame.
Instead, the soulless vampires pay off their lackeys in Congress and keep fleecing ordinary Americans.”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 01:37:47 in Politics
“Hey kid get off my lawn!”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 01:35:26 in Politics
“Some folks saw whatever they wanted to see in Obama. Others, like me, knew he was nowhere near as progressive as we would have liked, but were still happy to see the first African-American president.
The difference between the former and the latter is that we more or less expected to have to advocate actively for progressive issues.”
The difference between the former and the latter is that we more or less expected to have to advocate actively for progressive issues.”
Iraq sends forces to oil well seized by Iran
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 23:02:35 in World
“To duskdemon -
A scant few months ago, at a mosque, during the height of the protest, the caller leading the crowd's chants yelled "Death to America". The crowd, in one voice, responded, "Death to Russia".
Things there are a bit more complex than most folks in the West generally perceive.”
A scant few months ago, at a mosque, during the height of the protest, the caller leading the crowd's chants yelled "Death to America". The crowd, in one voice, responded, "Death to Russia".
Things there are a bit more complex than most folks in the West generally perceive.”
Iraq sends forces to oil well seized by Iran
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:58:03 in World
“From what I've heard, Iran's internal politics are pretty complex. There may be Iranian internal political reasons the press is not privy to, and/or the US or Iraqi officials aren't talking about.
Another possibility - with Iran disunified politically at home, perhaps someone there thought that baiting the US could elicit an American military response, which would serve to strengthen one side politically within Iran. If that's the case, this effort would have to graded FAIL.”
Another possibility - with Iran disunified politically at home, perhaps someone there thought that baiting the US could elicit an American military response, which would serve to strengthen one side politically within Iran. If that's the case, this effort would have to graded FAIL.”
GM: Saab Shutting Down After Deal Talks Fall Apart
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:42:30 in Business
“Keep your Saab in pristine condition for 20 years and it will appreciate in value & become a collectors' item.”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:31:12 in Politics
“The pertinent question is, how many of those were just natural fall-off of interest after the election, and how many are in response to a real or perceived sense of betrayal?”
adamNsteve replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 22:54:46
“"real or perceived"
way to set up for judgment, dude”
way to set up for judgment, dude”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:28:45 in Politics
“Thank your for referring to me as a young f@rt!
And you have a point.
I may not have a crystal ball or know things will play out, but as a military veteran I know a cl#sterf#ck when I see one.”
And you have a point.
I may not have a crystal ball or know things will play out, but as a military veteran I know a cl#sterf#ck when I see one.”
adamNsteve replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 22:32:52
“i dunno, you look kinda old to me....”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:26:43 in Politics
“The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. - Thomas Jefferson”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:22:01 in Politics
“Dianne Feinstein (D) California
She's at heart a pretty conservative Democrat that has to be pushed - sometimes very hard - to support even moderate Democratic initiatives.
Feinstein's against card check, and joined Schumer not so long ago in supporting Mukasey even after he knowingly dissembled about waterboarding being torture. Because of that vote alone I can never again in good conscious vote for Ms. Feinstein.”
She's at heart a pretty conservative Democrat that has to be pushed - sometimes very hard - to support even moderate Democratic initiatives.
Feinstein's against card check, and joined Schumer not so long ago in supporting Mukasey even after he knowingly dissembled about waterboarding being torture. Because of that vote alone I can never again in good conscious vote for Ms. Feinstein.”
LeftCoastLarry replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 23:23:39
“I must admit I don't know much about Senator Feinstein. I assumed she would probably be somewhat progressive but she has surprised me with her stance on some issues when she has made it on TV.
However, she never offended me so much that it stuck. I don't even remember what the issues were.”
However, she never offended me so much that it stuck. I don't even remember what the issues were.”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:17:37 in Politics
“Whatever Frankenstein version of health care reform emerges from conference and reaches Obama's desk will require years upon years of follow-up legislation to fix the range of problems the bill will create.”
Rattlecan replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 22:51:20
“Amen!”
chlllfactor replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 22:22:03
“you mean like all the legislation that went into building Social Security and Medicare? You young f@rts think you know how things will play out.....gi
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:13:39 in Politics
“Large banks, insurance companies, & investment firms also seem entirely lacking in market discipline. They seem perfectly happy to make bad bets cumulatively in the trillions, and threaten the world with a global depression if they don't get bailed out.
And to further hedge their bets, their payoff for millions in lobbying is the placement of their executives at the head of the Treasury Dept in both GOP and Democratic administrations.
All the better to sack the Treasury.”
And to further hedge their bets, their payoff for millions in lobbying is the placement of their executives at the head of the Treasury Dept in both GOP and Democratic administrations.
All the better to sack the Treasury.”
Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 22:09:53 in Politics
“IF we had a free market, which we most certainly don't.
You have to consider barriers to entry and the lack of anti-trust regulation in this industry, which gives a small number of companies inordinate control in many state markets.”
You have to consider barriers to entry and the lack of anti-trust regulation in this industry, which gives a small number of companies inordinate control in many state markets.”
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