mindact's Comments (230)
Mary J. Blige Punches Husband In Face: Report
Commented Dec 24, 2009 at 23:51:25 in Entertainment
“They're both unacceptable. People do not lay hands on the next person. Domestic violence is unacceptable. This is not a case of trying to create a moral equivalence b/w the two scenarios. Society as a whole should have zero tolerance from domestic violence regardless of who it's coming from”
SethBLiNK replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 17:40:52
“You say that this is not a case of trying to create a moral equivalence between two scenarios, but the comment I was responding too was doing just that.
Yes, both are wrong, but one is clearly worse than the other, or do you think that Blige should be prosecuted and do the same jail time that Brown did?”
Yes, both are wrong, but one is clearly worse than the other, or do you think that Blige should be prosecuted and do the same jail time that Brown did?”
Mary J. Blige Punches Husband In Face: Report
Commented Dec 24, 2009 at 23:47:34 in Entertainment
“you're an idiot to not see that the line was crossed when she allegedly hit him. She can yell, kick him to the curb, put his stuff out, but you don't lay your fingers on anyone period. Chris brown got crucified and rightly so for decimating Rhianna. In all facets, domestic violence is unacceptable”
davidariley replied on Dec 27, 2009 at 14:01:18
“apparently it's only unacceptable, to some, when the man is the one doing the hitting.”
Gay Houston Mayor Candidate Annise Parker Ahead In Polls
Commented Dec 11, 2009 at 19:51:39 in Politics
“You're totally clueless about Austin. I live in Austin and it's the most liberal city in the south period.... .”
Medicare Buy-In Filibuster-Proof? Senate Dem Deeply Concerned
Commented Dec 10, 2009 at 16:18:45 in Politics
“While progressives froth in the mouth about no public option, rebublicans are only ahppy to watch the democrats destroy themselves. Let's face it, what are the stakes here? The repubulicans want to keep the status quo. If it weren't the case they woud have done something about it several years ago.
Most democrats and Americans want universal coverage. The fundamental want is universal coverage, not public option or not. If we get a bill that gets us closer to universal coverage that's fine. Now about the public option, what we were looking at before was a watered down public option that provided no basis for competition since it operated in a parallel market from private insurers.
Progressives also want a single payer system. Well the closest we have to a single payer system is Medicare. The posiibility of expanding medicare is a good thing. Granted, it's only available to those above 55 with no health care coverage. On the other hand medicaid is being expanded as well to cover a lot more people.
Those in the middle get a non profit, non public option to compete with private insurers. Let's get this first, then we expand medicare to ages 45 and up. A trigger option for a public insurance plan that competes fair and square with the private insurance providers is just icing on the cake.
If the bill is not passed, democrats and the American people loose. Republicans and their insurance buddies gain from the status quo”
Most democrats and Americans want universal coverage. The fundamental want is universal coverage, not public option or not. If we get a bill that gets us closer to universal coverage that's fine. Now about the public option, what we were looking at before was a watered down public option that provided no basis for competition since it operated in a parallel market from private insurers.
Progressives also want a single payer system. Well the closest we have to a single payer system is Medicare. The posiibility of expanding medicare is a good thing. Granted, it's only available to those above 55 with no health care coverage. On the other hand medicaid is being expanded as well to cover a lot more people.
Those in the middle get a non profit, non public option to compete with private insurers. Let's get this first, then we expand medicare to ages 45 and up. A trigger option for a public insurance plan that competes fair and square with the private insurance providers is just icing on the cake.
If the bill is not passed, democrats and the American people loose. Republicans and their insurance buddies gain from the status quo”
ReasonIsMyReligion replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 16:55:57
“Per WashPo, 60% of Americans support a "public option."
http://www .washingto npost.com/ wp-dyn/con tent/artic le/2009/10 /19/AR2009 101902451. html
Per ABC News, 62% of Americans support "a universal health insurance program." 32% oppose. That's 2:1. ( The other 6%, who knows.)
http://abc news.go.co m/sections /living/US /healthcar e031020_po ll.html
Stop quibbling over a distinction without a STATISTICAL difference.
Opponents of EITHER are likely simply obstructionists begrudging GOOD HEALTH to their fellow Amurkins.
But how many of these scrooges would support an Afghan War that COSTS THE SAME?”
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Per ABC News, 62% of Americans support "a universal health insurance program." 32% oppose. That's 2:1. ( The other 6%, who knows.)
http://abc
Stop quibbling over a distinction without a STATISTICAL difference.
Opponents of EITHER are likely simply obstructionists begrudging GOOD HEALTH to their fellow Amurkins.
But how many of these scrooges would support an Afghan War that COSTS THE SAME?”
jadeba replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 16:33:47
“Agree, completely.”
bridge to somewhere replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 16:23:33
“The PO was hacked down to a mere sliver. I was bummed to hear they decided it out, but not as bummed that they didn't start off with a universal health care plan and settle for slightly-less-than universal. When big-time profits are involved, it takes a HUGE movement to inflict even the slightest amount of change. Even an institution as awful as sl@very took a civil war to overturn.. .and much of what made our nation great in the last century was the result of actions taken during and after the great depression.
We never learn. We let things get WAY out of hand before taking action...”
We never learn. We let things get WAY out of hand before taking action...”
msgirlintn replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 16:21:56
“Mindact, you are exactly right. A lot on the left need to realize that the public option after it had been watered down for non-existent Repub votes wasn't much of an option and wouldn't cover very many people.”
MOCONSERVATIVE replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 16:20:19
“Most Americans do not want universal coverage - thats a bold-faced lie and you know it.”
Rick Warren Publicly Condemns Uganda Anti-Gay Law (VIDEO)
Commented Dec 10, 2009 at 15:59:16 in Politics
“The truth about it is that he did the right thing to condemn the law in the strongest terms. It would have been better if he condemned it right from the onset, but I guess it's a slippery slope where you're forced to condemn everything any one has said or done anywhere, just like in the case of BO while he was running for office.”
Mark Ndesandjo: Obama Says He Met With Half Brother While In China
Commented Nov 18, 2009 at 12:55:04 in World
“Isn't it the same brother Obama talked about in Dreams of my father, that seemed snobbish? If I recollect, he was the one who told Obama in a snubbish tone that he was at Stanford. He didn't want to have anything to do with the Obamas in Kenyan. He mom left for a wealthy kenyan man....”
tiredofthesameoldstuff replied on Nov 18, 2009 at 13:33:03
“He has several half brothers. His father was legally married to several women at once.”
White House Thinks Trigger More Progressive Than Opt-Out: Mark Whitaker
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 23:25:31 in Politics
“I think there is a point to this. I've always supported the public option and still do, but after listening to snowe and Ed on the Ed show, seems like the current public option from the house doesn't really help in driving down prices. The truth of the matter is that the public option isn't available to everyone, only a small fragment of the population. Hence there will be a parallel market, one for corporations buying insurance for their employees that private insurers already play in. The other is for majority of the current uninsured, which the private insurers would rather not serve.
If we have a trigger, with clearly defined trigger events that allows both employers, small business and individuals to buy into a public option, then we will have real competition”
If we have a trigger, with clearly defined trigger events that allows both employers, small business and individuals to buy into a public option, then we will have real competition”
Patriot86 replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 07:47:16
“Snowe is snowing you...ther e will never be a trigger... never. We will be forced to buy expensive insurance with few benefits, high deductibles forever or until the heroic (sarcasm) GOP ends this useless program and probably Medicare as well. It is madness and completely unacceptable. Consider this, the PO is popular. Even Brit Hume admitted this, but we still can not get it...why? The insurance companies have paid off the politicians. Now if you think these politicians will put a real trigger if one actually exist into this bill then...I have a bridge to sell you in New York...smo ke and mirrors... Houdini act...now you see it and now you don't.”
FreedomBeforeSecurity replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 23:48:06
“But that's the problem... "Triggers" are never clearly defined, nor mandatory. Their execution is always left to a regulator which is under no obligation to do anything, and said trigger never includes funding.
The cost benefits for you and me will come. But, the real benefit of the public option is providing insurance for the "uninsurable". Those individuals that may have suffered a catastrophic ailment, or that have a psychological impairment which makes them unable to properly care for themselves. Or those that have lost everything because of crippling medical costs.”
The cost benefits for you and me will come. But, the real benefit of the public option is providing insurance for the "uninsurable". Those individuals that may have suffered a catastrophic ailment, or that have a psychological impairment which makes them unable to properly care for themselves. Or those that have lost everything because of crippling medical costs.”
cripes replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 23:40:12
“we better get something and hope to improve it in time,,,and JL and Olympia S. win the booby prize for not having a back bone.Oh, I keep forgetting Nelson. A democrat that votes like a republican.”
Gaza Zoo, Too Poor To Buy Zebras, Paints Stripes On Donkeys (PHOTOS)
Commented Oct 14, 2009 at 19:26:52 in World
“I think what's really troubling about this is the fact that Israel controls what goes into and out of Gaza. And the fact that only humanitarian aid is allowed. Is there any other country in the world experiencing blockade like this. The only reason why this can happen is because the palestinians don't have the ability to defend themselves.
This is not sustainable for the long-term.”
This is not sustainable for the long-term.”
Bill O'Reilly Backs Public Option (VIDEO)
Commented Sep 17, 2009 at 20:35:53 in Media
“This has to do with his disguised beef with Glen Beck”
Keith Olbermann Playing Viewers For Fools On O'Reilly Truce
Commented Aug 06, 2009 at 01:11:11 in Media
“Look here Jason, Keith has been a stand0up guy from time. Any smart person knows you have to work within the cofines of the parameters set for you, as long as your personal integrity is not compromised. Let's face it, Keith was not asked to lie by the powers that be at GE, he was asked to distort a story or even asked to squash a story.
Fact is Bill O'Riley is not our biggest problem. Compared to folks like Hannity and Beck, Bill O is like a catholic school girl. The reason I bring this up is to point out the fact that the reason Keith goes after Bill'O is because they share the same time slot. honestly, it's nothing more than a ratings game. Keith can afford to forgo that battle and focus on more pressing issues.
Smart people weigh out their options and make the most pruent decision. I believe that's what Keith did. We have a voice via MSNBC. Let's keep it that way. MSNBC brings in about 3% of GE's overall revenues. That my friend is an expendable resource”
Fact is Bill O'Riley is not our biggest problem. Compared to folks like Hannity and Beck, Bill O is like a catholic school girl. The reason I bring this up is to point out the fact that the reason Keith goes after Bill'O is because they share the same time slot. honestly, it's nothing more than a ratings game. Keith can afford to forgo that battle and focus on more pressing issues.
Smart people weigh out their options and make the most pruent decision. I believe that's what Keith did. We have a voice via MSNBC. Let's keep it that way. MSNBC brings in about 3% of GE's overall revenues. That my friend is an expendable resource”
Derrick Rose Gang Sign Photo Controversy: Rose Calls It A Bad Joke
Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 05:25:59 in Chicago
“Done what? Joined a gang or flashed a gang sign? Look, we all pay taxes that covers the payroll of the police force, municipal hospitals and infrastructure. That means we have a right to comment on issues related to gang violence. There is a social cost borne by all as a result of it.
Yes we understand the pressure inflicted upon young kids to join gangs, but yet again, we see the casualties as a result of gang violence. It ought to be condemned and spoken out against. Derrick didn't have to throw the sign at the party. He wasn't in a neutral zone and felt a need to strike a pose with gang signs. That was wrong and he rightfully apologized”
Yes we understand the pressure inflicted upon young kids to join gangs, but yet again, we see the casualties as a result of gang violence. It ought to be condemned and spoken out against. Derrick didn't have to throw the sign at the party. He wasn't in a neutral zone and felt a need to strike a pose with gang signs. That was wrong and he rightfully apologized”
NKR replied on Jun 13, 2009 at 13:06:24
“I'm just saying that if you're familiar with Derrick Rose's life, you know its unlikely he joined a gang. He grew up in Englewood, on the South Side of Chicago. His grandma and brother basically regulated everyone he hung out with and everywhere he went so he didn't get caught up in that. He worked really hard and became a great basketball player. Rose seems like a nice, good guy and this seems to conflict with what people know about him.
So is it not possible that maybe he was a party where certain people "asked" him to do it? And he didn't think it was worth not doing it and risk getting his ass kicked? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.”
So is it not possible that maybe he was a party where certain people "asked" him to do it? And he didn't think it was worth not doing it and risk getting his ass kicked? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.”
Derrick Rose Gang Sign Photo Controversy: Rose Calls It A Bad Joke
Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 05:17:59 in Chicago
“Dude, not sure what your relationship with Derrick is, but to go ahead and brand people as ignorant cause they don't know how it is in the hood is flat out shamefull. Here are the facts, more than 30 kids have been killed in Chi-town this year due to gang violence. You said you know this people and people in the hood aren't scared of them. Well, were the dead kids scared of them?
Here's the point, I take Derrick at his word that he's not gang affiliated. He apologized for his actions and rightly so. We do accept his apology, but it doesn't change the fact that it wasn't smart of him to do what he did. Gang violence is some serious stuff with serious consequences for families both of the gangbangers and victims. We cannot and should not make light of it period. Derrick realizes that, so should you”
Here's the point, I take Derrick at his word that he's not gang affiliated. He apologized for his actions and rightly so. We do accept his apology, but it doesn't change the fact that it wasn't smart of him to do what he did. Gang violence is some serious stuff with serious consequences for families both of the gangbangers and victims. We cannot and should not make light of it period. Derrick realizes that, so should you”
Secret Israeli Report: Venezuela, Bolivia Supplying Iran With Uranium For Its Nuclear Program
Commented May 26, 2009 at 01:22:07 in World
“hah, Iran and Venezuela set up a "$200bln" dollar fund to undermine the US. How plausible does this sound? both countries can actual have a slush fund waiting to be utilized in undermining America despite their domestic problems. even Saudi Arabia can't afford to set aside $200bln.
By the way, I though intelligence reports were for internal consumption. Why does it focus so much on Venezuela and Bolivia's disdain for America, like we need Israel to defend us by providing us intelligence. This is more or less propaganda, rather than intelligence”
By the way, I though intelligence reports were for internal consumption. Why does it focus so much on Venezuela and Bolivia's disdain for America, like we need Israel to defend us by providing us intelligence. This is more or less propaganda, rather than intelligence”
Jacob2217 replied on May 26, 2009 at 01:39:54
“Perhaps you should read some more about Iran’s exporting of and support of jihadist terror in South America:
May 2007: Iranian-backed Hezbollah building bases in South America
http://www .msnbc.msn .com/id/17 874369/
August 2008: Growing ties between Iranian-backed Hezbollah and Chavez’s Venezuela
http://cou nterterror ismblog.or g/2008/08/ the_danger s_of_hezbo llah_in_la .php”
May 2007: Iranian-backed Hezbollah building bases in South America
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August 2008: Growing ties between Iranian-backed Hezbollah and Chavez’s Venezuela
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Brazil Fashion Show Race Dispute Settled
Commented May 22, 2009 at 13:58:21 in World
“True statement. Unfortuantely, blacks in America tend to want to think that America is got the worst race relationship. Any black man who's travelled extensively will know that's not the case. Yes America seems to be a little more polarized when dealing with interracial marriages and all, but there is enough protection in the law to protect minorities. Unfortunately, most Latin and South American countries as well as European countries act like racism isn't a problem for them. The reason they claim they don't have issues on racism is because it'll force them to address the problems. that means they'll have to enact laws to protect minorities. In a lot of these countries, minorities (blacks in particular) have to accept their second class status.
I was in Sao Paulo last year and Cost Rica this year. I noticed that going into upscal bars and restaurants, I was the only black person over there. Not that I felt uncomfortable, but in countries ike these that boast diversity, it's ironic that you can barely find people of color in key influential”
I was in Sao Paulo last year and Cost Rica this year. I noticed that going into upscal bars and restaurants, I was the only black person over there. Not that I felt uncomfortable, but in countries ike these that boast diversity, it's ironic that you can barely find people of color in key influential”
Benton replied on May 22, 2009 at 16:33:41
“It is a totally different dynamic. The fact of the matter is a African American can go to many countries and will be less stigmatized then a person who looks exactly the same as a previously colonized group in that particular country. The same it true in this country where someone of African descent may be viewed as the model minority in this country but be labeled a thug in England or France. The French often loathed Africans they colonized while holding up African Americans as a model for being de-africanized.”
Outofnowhere replied on May 22, 2009 at 15:15:53
“Thanks. I"ve suspected this. It's probably a way for some to feel in some way superior to the U.S. since this country surpasses so many others in technology and median income, etc. I'm pretty certain they'll never have a black leader like we elected despite their claims of race being less a factor in their countries.”
Joe The Plumber Tells Conservatives: "I'm Horny"
Commented Mar 20, 2009 at 11:39:54 in Politics
“Watch ladies, Joe the plumber is horny. Be very careful, I see and aggressive glint in his eyes. He could be a rapist”
Hank Greenberg: AIG Bonuses Were "Based On Performance"
Commented Mar 20, 2009 at 11:21:34 in Business
“Read the article. he didn't say there were no bonuses before. What he said was that under his tenure, bonuses were based on performance. The company wasn't contractually obligated to pay it. Liddy and his co-horts were responsible for the contracts that required them t pay the employees those bonuses”
Hank Greenberg: AIG Bonuses Were "Based On Performance"
Commented Mar 20, 2009 at 11:18:47 in Business
“He'd left the company before bailout was needed. He left i 2005, bailouts weren't needed until 2008. get your facts rights”
Israeli Soldiers Speak Out About Their Actions In Gaza
Commented Mar 19, 2009 at 13:55:53 in World
“Any clear evidence of how naive people are. You want to talk about through history? Well, Palestinians have been slaughtered by Israeli forces over time. From Ariel sharon's permission of christian militants murdering Palestinians in refugee camps in beirut to the last intifada, through to this last incursion. Yes it's true that the palestinian terrorists have murdered israelis as well, however israel hasn't experienced anything like our 9-11.
For every one Israeli killed, 10 palestinians are killed. The only thing saving the palestinians is their high birth rate”
For every one Israeli killed, 10 palestinians are killed. The only thing saving the palestinians is their high birth rate”
nochaos replied on Mar 19, 2009 at 14:45:25
“So he gave permission ...the Christians DID THE KILLING... WITH GLEE!!”
Israel Faces Worst Diplomatic Crisis In Decades
Commented Mar 19, 2009 at 02:07:51 in World
“Not sure of the facts you present, but here is what I know, when I look at a lot of Jews in Israel today, they look European. When I look at lot of Arabs today, they seem of semitic stock. We know that the Jews of back in the day were of semitic stock.
Amongst the European Jews, obviously, there must have been some conversion to Judaism, some inter-marriage etc. This brings me to a question I've pondered, is there a difference b/w Jewish people and people practising Judaism?”
Amongst the European Jews, obviously, there must have been some conversion to Judaism, some inter-marriage etc. This brings me to a question I've pondered, is there a difference b/w Jewish people and people practising Judaism?”
Israel Faces Worst Diplomatic Crisis In Decades
Commented Mar 19, 2009 at 02:01:20 in World
“Arabist? I've never heard that word before. Why does it seem to have a racial connotation to it? hmmm, oh I forgot, your alias is "Bubba"”
Israel Faces Worst Diplomatic Crisis In Decades
Commented Mar 19, 2009 at 01:58:59 in World
“I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, let me also add that most American deaths are at the and of fellow Americans. As for the cleansing of neighborhoods in Iraq, we heard a lot a about it. Remember, most Americans were introduced to new lexicons such as Sunnis, Shia and Kurds because of the Iraq war. We heard an earful of the conflict and attrocities committed by muslims. We also saw the dastardly acts such as the televised beheadings. We know for a fact that there are evil terrorist in the muslim world bent on destroying western civilization.
However, we're also aware that the power the Muslim terrorist or right wing Likud party weilds is based on what the masses are willing to give them. When hamas sends a sucide bomber to Tel Avivi, moderates run to the tough talking elimate the arab terroist arms of Likud. When Israel conduct incursions into Gaza after several days of aerial bombing, the masses sympathise with Hamas and not Abbas.
If the moderates in Israel step forward and work out an acceptable 2 state solution with moderate palestinians, the power of Hamas and Likud diminish”
However, we're also aware that the power the Muslim terrorist or right wing Likud party weilds is based on what the masses are willing to give them. When hamas sends a sucide bomber to Tel Avivi, moderates run to the tough talking elimate the arab terroist arms of Likud. When Israel conduct incursions into Gaza after several days of aerial bombing, the masses sympathise with Hamas and not Abbas.
If the moderates in Israel step forward and work out an acceptable 2 state solution with moderate palestinians, the power of Hamas and Likud diminish”
Israel Faces Worst Diplomatic Crisis In Decades
Commented Mar 19, 2009 at 01:49:18 in World
“Here we go again with another very simplistic and shaved off version of events. What constitutes as a reasonalbe peace plan? When did Israel offer the reasonable peace plan and what does it entail?
The Clinton administration worked hard to reach a peace accord b/w Israel and the Palestinians, but he started to late and tried to cram several years of a peace plan into a few days in a lame duck administration. The official line put out by the Clinton folks was intended to give Ehud Barak cover. Fact is Barak was nervous about the deal, just as Yasser Arafat was. Second point, the bush adminsitration scuttled the talks by telling the Israelis not to accept Clinton's deal, because they could give them a better one. Lastly, Sharon make it politically impossible for Barak to take the deal, by taking the trip to the mosque and saber rattling, knowing that it would lead to the intifada. Those are the real facts. Let's stop with all this talk about the Israelis giving the palestinians a deal and they refused”
The Clinton administration worked hard to reach a peace accord b/w Israel and the Palestinians, but he started to late and tried to cram several years of a peace plan into a few days in a lame duck administration. The official line put out by the Clinton folks was intended to give Ehud Barak cover. Fact is Barak was nervous about the deal, just as Yasser Arafat was. Second point, the bush adminsitration scuttled the talks by telling the Israelis not to accept Clinton's deal, because they could give them a better one. Lastly, Sharon make it politically impossible for Barak to take the deal, by taking the trip to the mosque and saber rattling, knowing that it would lead to the intifada. Those are the real facts. Let's stop with all this talk about the Israelis giving the palestinians a deal and they refused”
Israel Faces Worst Diplomatic Crisis In Decades
Commented Mar 19, 2009 at 01:41:21 in World
“Our only Ally? Last time I checked, allies don't conduct espionage against thier partners. There are countless cases of espionage by Israeli agents in America. Israel's policyy in some cases are just as bad as that of it's Arab neighbors. The Saudi's, Jordanians, Emirates and few others have been allies to the American government over several decades.
Point is each one of these nations have allied with America as long as it's in their strategic interest. We as Americans have to make sure that our relationship with countries in the region is in our strategic interest. We don't side with a Saudi government that oppresses it's people, neither should with side with an Israeli govenrment engaged in Aparthied activities in Palestinian refugee camps”
Point is each one of these nations have allied with America as long as it's in their strategic interest. We as Americans have to make sure that our relationship with countries in the region is in our strategic interest. We don't side with a Saudi government that oppresses it's people, neither should with side with an Israeli govenrment engaged in Aparthied activities in Palestinian refugee camps”
Israel Faces Worst Diplomatic Crisis In Decades
Commented Mar 19, 2009 at 01:33:35 in World
“Have you ever stopped to ask yourself, the guys gaming in Israel, what's the end result or outcome? This idea that some nutcases have that you can amass all the weapons you have in the world to defend yourself is foolish. Haven''t you heard that there is no lasting peace with violence?
Israel has to look for a way to live in peace with it's neighbors. Yes have your weapons ready just in case someone steps out of line, but deal failr with your neighbors. When I hear right wingers here in America cry everyone hates Israel becasue they're a western democracy I scratch my head. When the enitre world except a handful of nations are critical of a nation's policy, it stattes that something is wrong. It rememinds me of the angry kid in the school yard that thinks the world is against him for being him.”
Israel has to look for a way to live in peace with it's neighbors. Yes have your weapons ready just in case someone steps out of line, but deal failr with your neighbors. When I hear right wingers here in America cry everyone hates Israel becasue they're a western democracy I scratch my head. When the enitre world except a handful of nations are critical of a nation's policy, it stattes that something is wrong. It rememinds me of the angry kid in the school yard that thinks the world is against him for being him.”
JacksonJones replied on Mar 19, 2009 at 02:20:02
“When the entire world thought the earth was flat, is still wasn't flat.
If the kid in the school yard is angy because people keep shooting at him, then he's right to be angy.”
If the kid in the school yard is angy because people keep shooting at him, then he's right to be angy.”
Israel Faces Worst Diplomatic Crisis In Decades
Commented Mar 19, 2009 at 01:26:52 in World
“You'd like us to assume that the arabs just got up and marched on Israel in 58, 67 and 72. Well, that's an abbrevated and simplistic version of what transpired. Terrorist attacks were carried out on Palestinians and Arabs by the early zionist like Bergen, before and after the formation of the nation of Israel.
Terrorism has existed on both sides of the conflict. I'm sure most rational Americans will be shocked if they were exposed to the policies of Israel towards arab israelis and palestinians. Don' get me wrong, I also personally believe that a lot of the islamic nations are oppressive and racist as hell. The way women and monrities arfe treated in Saudi Arabia for instance is totally unacceptable. Even going over to the UAE, the way migrant Bangladeshi laborers are treated is inhuman.
Coming back to the case of Israel, they ought to show leadership and work out something with the palestinians that is lasting. I support a Jewish state of Israel, if the Arabs want to keep their Islamic state. The right of return should be a forgone issue as long as the Palestinians have a continous piece of land or territory to call there own.
Jerusalem can be shared by both nations as capitals, just as Bierut has it's distinct sections for Hezbollah, the Christians et al. Palestians need to give up on this notion of a right of return and Israel not being a Jewish state. Settlements will have to be demolished too.”
Terrorism has existed on both sides of the conflict. I'm sure most rational Americans will be shocked if they were exposed to the policies of Israel towards arab israelis and palestinians. Don' get me wrong, I also personally believe that a lot of the islamic nations are oppressive and racist as hell. The way women and monrities arfe treated in Saudi Arabia for instance is totally unacceptable. Even going over to the UAE, the way migrant Bangladeshi laborers are treated is inhuman.
Coming back to the case of Israel, they ought to show leadership and work out something with the palestinians that is lasting. I support a Jewish state of Israel, if the Arabs want to keep their Islamic state. The right of return should be a forgone issue as long as the Palestinians have a continous piece of land or territory to call there own.
Jerusalem can be shared by both nations as capitals, just as Bierut has it's distinct sections for Hezbollah, the Christians et al. Palestians need to give up on this notion of a right of return and Israel not being a Jewish state. Settlements will have to be demolished too.”
JacksonJones replied on Mar 19, 2009 at 03:07:31
“"Jerusalem can be shared by both nations as capitals, just as Bierut has it's distinct sections for Hezbollah, the Christians et al. Palestians need to give up on this notion of a right of return and Israel not being a Jewish state. Settlements will have to be demolished too."
I am with you on that, brother.”
I am with you on that, brother.”
JacksonJones replied on Mar 19, 2009 at 02:44:03
“mindact, there were Arab massacres against Jews prior to the formation of the state as well, e.g., in Hebron in '27 or '28. But in no instance did the Jews amass an army with the intention of annihilating the Arabs, as the Arabs did in '48 (not '58), '67 and '72.
You sau "that's an abbrevated and simplistic version of what transpired", but it is the truth. I am sorry that I can't explicate the entire history of the crisis in 250 words for you.
And, yes, each one of those wars was a bigger crisis that the PR issues of today.
And, yes, those massive attacks with the declared aim of destroying Israel (which aim lives on today in the Hamas Charter among other places), is why Israel is very careful not to leave itself open to attack.”
You sau "that's an abbrevated and simplistic version of what transpired", but it is the truth. I am sorry that I can't explicate the entire history of the crisis in 250 words for you.
And, yes, each one of those wars was a bigger crisis that the PR issues of today.
And, yes, those massive attacks with the declared aim of destroying Israel (which aim lives on today in the Hamas Charter among other places), is why Israel is very careful not to leave itself open to attack.”


