“Ok why was she drinking at 16???? I never said rape was right or it was her fault but why is the guys always the ones at fault?? it is her word against their word. No one will know for sure. Did she have a rape kit done, file a report?”
“Excuse me- why was a 16 yo drinking and allowed herself to be put in this position? Hello- a girl who drinks to the point she passes out can't help her self. No rape or touching is not right but no one made her drink and who knows what happened before she passed out. Stop blaming the boys and not making girls responsible for their actions. I am a woman who has been in this situation and admitted it was me who did it to myself.”
LindaK9975 on Aug 21, 2012 at 21:31:34
“NO ONE has the right to abuse your body - PERIOD. To insinuate that she is responsible for what happened to her is ridiculous. It is up to the boys to keep their hands and whatever else they have to themselves.”
ErikwithaK on Aug 21, 2012 at 21:28:29
“Seriously? Sexual assault can be excused because the girl wasn't conscious? Yes, passing out at a party isn't smart, but you still have have the right not to be assaulted. Stop blaming the boys? I hope I raised my boys to have more ethics and morals than those of a rutting pig. My apologies to pigs.
Those boys are lucky she wasn't my daughter, losing their Ivy League scholarship would have been the least of their worries?”
cafebeege on Aug 21, 2012 at 21:19:05
“Yes, she shouldn't have been drinking. Alot of stupid teenagers of both sexes drink. But that DOES NOT EXCUSE the boys behavior !! Obviously they were not as affected by alcohol as she was, THEY were conscious. No matter what, once she lost consciousness, everything should have STOPPED no matter what you say MAY have been going on.
GEEEZUS.....ever heard of the term "victim blaming" ??? A drunk person can not give consent !! She especially couldn't, she wasn't EVEN CONSCIOUS !! And yes, hopefully she will learn from this nightmare. But they took advantage of an UNCONCIOUS victim......”
llwlknsn on Aug 21, 2012 at 21:08:29
“You apparently have guilt issues you need to deal with. Please seek therapy.
There are two separate issues here. You can take part in letting these two animals off the hook, but just as no one made her drink, no one made the rapists assault her.
We still do not know if she drank until she passed out, or if she was given a drug to facilitate the incapacitation. Are you seriously stating that if she were drugged, THAT too would have been HER fault? I mean I am following your curious course of logic.
keatonc333 on Aug 21, 2012 at 21:07:56
“So rapes fine as long as the chick has been drinking I gather.. you are sick”
“Oh yes, we move often due to our military life and my hubby's job now and I believe we are placed in areas where we are to help someone, then when we are done we move on. It sounds weird but in a way it always seems like we do just that.”
“If we take away the defense budget how do you think the freedoms we have will remain? Children today are not getting the social skills nor the problem skills they need to effectively run our country. So no amount of money will make this happen, we need to start at home. And yes, I do support my military because with out my time in the service I would have been one of those children. My time made me a better person, a mature adult. No war is not the answer to everything but we still need a military to protect us as needed or say good bye to the freedoms we have.”
lawman69 on May 18, 2012 at 00:27:54
“"We need a military to protect us" is a far cry from justifying "we need the single most expensive military in human history to maintain a presence in every corner of the planet."”
“Please stop with putting politics into everything. It doesn't matter what your political views are as long as you are a good person who helps others. This is racism- in a form. If we had more people out there helping others maybe our society would be a mess. It is a dog eat dog world out there these days. I am happy to know there are people still out there with hearts.”
sylvabugg2 on May 17, 2012 at 16:24:59
“I believe that what all of us were put here to do, help each other.”
“Heck, I have those bathtub pictures of all my babies. I also have some of them in their diapers. I agree too often people who abuse their children are more cunning. My mother in law physically and emotionally abused all 4 of hers. She still denies it today and they are all grown. She got custody of them when they were little until she left them outside in the cold too long and someone called the police. She actually called the Family services on us for not taking my daughter to the doctor for having a low grade fever for a day over Christmas. We were in such shock. It makes you feel terrible and question everything you do. She does see the kids but only while we are home and it is limited.
Not every one has the same parenting styles, sexual orientation or lifestyle.”
“I agree with you. When my husband went back to school after separating from the military and being unemployed for over a year, he had no choice but to take private student loans. He had gained too many credits for any financial aid, yes he had the GI Bill but it was designed to give you income while attending school and it was only 1500 a month and even with me working full time we still had 3 kids at home to feed. Now he pays more than a car note in student loans and it is counted against me when applying for any loan. It was the best for him since he got a job with in 2 months of graduation, but not everyone is so lucky.
Don't assume all student loan borrowers are teenagers who are drinking their money away. We needed it to make it and still pay the price every month. He did more than "traditional college students".”
Christine Mann on Jun 1, 2012 at 00:33:55
“BS pay your loans, dont demand seniors and tax payers pay it”
Cosmochick on May 10, 2012 at 15:14:51
Good point. And I'm still trying to figure out how everyone thinks that as students, we had excess money to drink and vacation and buy cars - even if we WERE young. I sure didn't. After tuition, fees and books, I had about $200/month in student loans to pay rent, eat, utilities, insurance, etc. I still don't know how I made it. Actually, I don't think I drank ONCE in college. I couldn't afford it and still can't thanks to these student loan payments! People are so self-righteous, it's disgusting. Hopefully the karma bus doesn't hit them in the head because if it does, they're certainly going to wish that people's tax dollars would help them out, too!”
“just another sad story about how some people shouldn't have children. It is so much fun to make them but no fun to raise. Bring back the death penalty. start getting rid of monsters instead of locking them up for life for taxpayers to take care.”
camanokat on May 4, 2012 at 02:59:37
“Raising my children was one of the most satisfying and rewarding things I've ever done. It's really great now that they are adults and we are friends and advisers rather than bossy ol' parents!”
csmomo on May 2, 2012 at 14:24:10
“But by no means allow women to have birth control pills.”
ragingpacifist on May 2, 2012 at 09:12:34
“Actually, they are fun to raise. Although it seems that a very small segment of the population enjoys and deserves the priviledge of having children.”
“I am not from here. People still get behind the wheel drunk everywhere. I did not say it was not the best to be drunk and do it next to the highway but people are quick to judge other in this society.
We are NOT PERFECT, no matter where you come from or what you do.
Oh, pretty sure you will next blame my belief in God or my political stand. I have live around the world and have a better understanding than most NARROW minded people who sit all day judging others from their glass houses.”
“People are so quick to judge!!!! is all I am saying. I didn 't say isolated either. After a good snow, people put the sleds up to their ATV. They are not going 100 mph either. we also have hayrides oh no someone could fall off and hit their head.”
Lockland on May 1, 2012 at 19:54:18
“Sounds like you live in an area where husbands and wives also call each other "cousin". That would explain a lot.
I have also lived in rural areas ... much of what use to be considered innocent fun, such as getting blind drunk and then getting behind the wheel of their pick up trucks and driving ... is now considered utterly stupid and extremely reckless and dangerous.”
“I feel we are gonna be screwed either way. do they know what it is like to be poor or middle class?? Yes there are programs out there but there are requirements and if you make $30 over too bad. What about those people??? Like I said-SCREWED.”
“interesting? The are children who need a little more help and to be held down. why in this country, do we label everyone?? yes, she used hot sauce which is a suggestion for parents whose children suck their thumbs. Now is that child abuse? In our society it is, people are afraid to help others because they might be sued.
What happened to this country??? I love my country, served my country and raise my children here in an old school manner. People are so busy punishing others and not looking at themselves.”
Emilybare on Feb 1, 2012 at 13:40:20
“Unfortunately what registers as child abuse nowdays is whatever someone else doesn't think you ought to do to a child.”
“We too have been involved in scouts for many years and understand the BSA requirements but also know to work at child care centers you must submit your fingerprints and if you don't have a record then no one would supect anything.
It isn't about training or background checks-it is the ones who haven't been caught yet.”
“Oh, yes. maybe we wouldn't have so many screwed up people in the world if a good hanging would take place. I worry about this when my kids go on camping trips with scouts. Hello people who lets a grown man have slept overs with children?????”
buzard1bait on Feb 1, 2012 at 08:58:34
“I was a Scout leader for many years and the safety net that BSA has in place is very good. The requirement of 2 deep leadership and the buddy system where no boy is ever alone one on one with an adult is very good, not only for the boy but for the adult. The youth protection program in place in BSA has the best interest of the boy in mind and every leader goes through a back round check and regular training, and most of us are and were involved because we had sons in the program.
Hanging is too good for the child molester. The end comes too quickly and I believe that since the child has to suffer a lifetime of pain and humiliation his abuser should do the same.”