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The Insincerity Of The Public Option Haters: Lieberman's Weasel
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:47:04 in Politics
“If we had half the president we thought we were getting, wouldn't Obama be saying about now, no public option = veto? Instead, we seem to have a few sincere liberals saying "no PO, no bill," but with no hint of even moral support from Fearless Leader. I may never vote again.”
F**k Maine: A Call for Civil Disobedience in the Fight for Marriage Equality
Commented Nov 06, 2009 at 16:47:17 in Politics
“It's "normal," I guess, for the citizenry to need to be dragged in the right direction kicking and screaming, via court order, primarily. Good luck with the Supreme Court we have now, though. But gay people don't have much to lose by "acting up," since they are so demonized already by the usual crowd who are always squealing about somebody coming after them, coming after their freedoms, coming after their children, trying to outlaw Jesus, the flag, guns, trying to enforce abortions....it's just endless non-thinking paranoia, it comes as a complete mind-set, somehow they seem to mostly win. So I agree with your premise: there is no motive to be civil.”
Myth Understood
Commented Oct 23, 2009 at 14:09:20 in Politics
“Caretaking my mother, I've been immersed in Rush Limbaugh, and it's worse than I ever dreamed. I certainly prefer the myth of the excellent Obama of good intentions to the Limbaugh myth of the America-hating narcissist Obama. Actually, there's some evidence for the good Obama, whereas the Limbaugh tale is pure fantasy based on prejudice.
You make an excellent point that "democracy," in the sense of expectation that the welfare or will of the citizenry has any influence on government, is also mythical.”
You make an excellent point that "democracy," in the sense of expectation that the welfare or will of the citizenry has any influence on government, is also mythical.”
Why Is the Government the Health Care Boogeyman?
Commented Oct 02, 2009 at 16:10:54 in Politics
“Great synopsis of the disconnect from reality here. The simple answer to the question, though, is that this is a matter of dogma and faith, hence immune to reason or facts. The Land of the Free is full of authoritarians. This is also why it is so meaningless for any actual progrssives there may be in the Obama admin or congressional Democrats to keep playing the music for some "bipartisan" dance. That is an absolute rock wall because authoritarians are incapable of perceiving any information alien to their mental prison. Sad thing is, progressives seem to not be able to learn from their sore heads they've been bashing on that wall. Since there is evidence that Obama is educable, the cynical view is permissible that he is going through the motions with no true intent to produce anything recognizable as "progress."”
Paolo7219 replied on Oct 03, 2009 at 22:28:25
“Dogma and faith. Exactly. If people are pre-disposed to believe something, then the ONLY feedback they pick up on is what they are looking for. Everything else, like facts proving their assumptions wrong, are COMPLETELY ignored. This phenomenon explains things like Rush Limbaugh's audience. Limbaugh makes $40 million per year, has been divorced three times, has been busted for drugs and has been a failure at every shot he has gotten for television. What is this? The "profile" of the right wing? Well is it? Limbaugh is their leader. Have to give the Repugs "credit" though. They know how to stay on message. Watch Fox, listen to Limbaugh and the others on talk radio and you get the SAME talking points. Solution? A direct approach. Get the message out about the good thiings governbment has done and balance this with the LIES that Republicans tell about themselves and government. It's going to take a 1-2 punch like this. Doing one without the other is going to fail. We are going to have to get in the trenches and wrestle with the Republicans.”
Tort Reform: A Bad Bargain That Won't Fix Health Care
Commented Sep 22, 2009 at 17:40:08 in Politics
“You want better regulation? Hah! Trade private enterprise lawyers for big government? Regulators whose policies are subject to the political whimsy of whatever administration is in place, as in Bush regulators totally sittin around picking their noses and the Fed Trade Commission doing a Sergeant Schultz on Bernie Madoff? How do you like that Wall Street/banks oversight? Since the fear of lawsuits IS the only control on a doctor's negligence, since trial lawyers are the only thing that give the "little guy" a chance, I say, let 'er rip!”
The GOP Is Too Crazy To Be Racist
Commented Sep 16, 2009 at 15:38:40 in Politics
“I lovelovelove this post! On target all the way. "Icing on the cake." Yup. It's not the first time it's been pointed out that the Dems could run Mother Teresa with the same reaction.”
MrWebster replied on Sep 16, 2009 at 16:20:31
“In a crazy way, this shows how much actually we in America have progressed. Obama is more reviled and hated by the right wing because of their ideological fantasies and delusions (than his race). I actually think that if Hillary got elected, we would have seen much much worse as she more than Obama personfiies for wingers their worst bogeyman fears, or should I say bogeywoman fears.”
Mij13 replied on Sep 16, 2009 at 16:19:12
“Wasn't whe secretly Jewish? ; )”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 16, 2009 at 14:02:23 in Politics
“Not gonna happen. "Conservatives Without Conscience," book by John Dean. You will find it interesting!”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 20:08:45 in Politics
“You describe a process of thinking about issues and drawing conclusions from observed evidence. It is wonderful to be in your kind of company here on Huffpost. I keep repeating my message that the non-thinking, fact-free fellow citizens this post is about cannot be reasoned with or reformed. Why President Obama is coddling this and deferring to it is a serious mystery.”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 19:13:39 in Politics
“So why doesn't President Obama seem to remember that "progress" in America has been a "liberal" movement, forging uphill, the best of our history? Why does he seem to think he can't lead that best of us? Is it arrogance, that he really thinks he can convert the entrenched regressive minority, or that he has to for some reason? I don't want to think about the alternative, that he's just a wholly owned corporate subsidiary too. But what are we supposed to think?”
MountPanic replied on Sep 16, 2009 at 01:13:47
“Seconded.”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 19:04:37 in Politics
“Thanks, straight to the point. This crowd consists of serial offenders in terms of running off on whatever wild paranoid fairy tale chase their anointed demogogues pitch from day to day.”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 16:39:36 in Politics
“Wow, did Code Pink blow nasty bubbles at those scared Marines?”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 16:37:46 in Politics
“Bingo, Sarah! Zombies. It is easy to imagine mass roundups if this had been directed at Bush!”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 16:35:24 in Politics
“Oh, yes, this crowd is real peaceful as long as they don't hear a "discouraging word." Having lived thru the run-up to the Iraq invasion with my relatives, I can assure you that vicious retaliation is behind a very thin veil in response to any non-conforming information or thought.
But I almost agree with your last thought. Obama hasn't much of my respect left. The hopes he raised feel pretty trampled.”
But I almost agree with your last thought. Obama hasn't much of my respect left. The hopes he raised feel pretty trampled.”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 16:29:16 in Politics
“There no doubt are some participants as you describe. But I am closely related to people who constitute the majority of the mindless, murderous mania portrayed in these pictures. They are the same people who truly, utterly believed that Saddam Hussein participated in 9-11, and have been bellowing ever since for an atomic bomb to be dropped on Iraq, since the Iraqi people kept making trouble after the invasion. They think every woman who has an abortion is a slut, gay people ought to be killed, all hispanic people should be rounded up and deported, every Muslim is a murderer, Hillary killed her lover Vince Foster before decorating the White House Christmas tree with condoms, Obama is the actual, biblical Antichrist, and black people are lazy parasites on productive white culture.
I am absolutely not exaggerating. What they "live for" is hate, hate, fear and hate. It's time for the President to stand up and rise above these people and do the right thing. They do not represent America!”
I am absolutely not exaggerating. What they "live for" is hate, hate, fear and hate. It's time for the President to stand up and rise above these people and do the right thing. They do not represent America!”
Reading The Pictures: Teabaggers' Subliminal Death Message
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 15:55:59 in Politics
“It's too kind (and gives false hope!) to call this segment merely "gullible and ignorant." The civilian components are authoritarians who are utterly impervious to reason or shame. The politician components are some of the above (bachmann) and some cynical rats who take advantage. Remember it's the closed primaries!”
Tea Party Madness to Sweep the Nation?
Commented Aug 12, 2009 at 17:20:17 in Politics
“Yes, key distinction between fact-based opposition that becomes recognized because the facts get out, and fact-free noisemaking that is discredited by truth.”
Tea Party Madness to Sweep the Nation?
Commented Aug 12, 2009 at 17:17:06 in Politics
“Nix on PETA. And look at how much "ecoterrorism" was actually Cointelpro.”
Tea Party Madness to Sweep the Nation?
Commented Aug 12, 2009 at 17:15:04 in Politics
“I call a foul on including PETA as "liberal."
Have you noticed how many of the "privatized" institutions have gone bankrupt, officially or unoficially, in the last year? The medical-industrial complex, already supported by protections against competition (Canada) and free (to them) public research, are fat vampires on the necks of the citizenry. At least Medicare is providing care, while the insurance bureaucrats are figuring out how not to.”
Have you noticed how many of the "privatized" institutions have gone bankrupt, officially or unoficially, in the last year? The medical-industrial complex, already supported by protections against competition (Canada) and free (to them) public research, are fat vampires on the necks of the citizenry. At least Medicare is providing care, while the insurance bureaucrats are figuring out how not to.”
ConservativeMobster replied on Aug 12, 2009 at 17:30:19
“I believe Medicare is due to be bankrupt by 2017. And adding more onto the government plan. Great idea”
Tea Party Madness to Sweep the Nation?
Commented Aug 12, 2009 at 17:05:48 in Politics
“I am totally in sympathy with you, DI. But remember Bill Maher and Michael Moore on their knees to Ralph Nader? Politically, the left is so beaten down that so many will take any crumb rather than nothing, and you and I will be hated as destroyers.”
Tea Party Madness to Sweep the Nation?
Commented Aug 12, 2009 at 17:01:35 in Politics
“You give the MSM too much credit when you say "incompetent." They definitely collaborate with the corporate hands that feed them.The woeful tale of how MSNBC gradually strangled Phil Donohue in the run-up to Iraq is not to be forgotten.”
ayc replied on Aug 12, 2009 at 17:41:50
“I stand corrected. You are correct.”
The Wrong Diagnosis
Commented Aug 11, 2009 at 16:13:17 in Living
“Good line. God takes care of his own, and if you have the Ben Franklins, you know you're already chosen.....
Now, in a scifi story, the pathogens, being life, would prefer the "pro-life" hosts!”
Now, in a scifi story, the pathogens, being life, would prefer the "pro-life" hosts!”
CNN, Others Using "Fig Leaf" to Justify Whack-Job Coverage
Commented Jul 27, 2009 at 15:12:07 in Media
“Yes, and when are Sarah Palin's 15 minutes going to be up, already? I was appalled at "Michael Jackson Week." The slight distinction of the "birthers" story is that maybe it's not all bad for the rest of us to be reminded how divorced from reality a segment of the political spectrum is.”
JoeSausage replied on Jul 28, 2009 at 15:23:41
“On CNN it's Michael Jackson Month. I heard that they're turning their Headline News channel into the Michael Jackson Channel.”
Nothing Centrist About Them
Commented Jul 27, 2009 at 15:03:57 in Politics
“Great point, Katrina! I think "centrist" fits in with the labeling of single-payer as "socialist" or "communist."
In other words, the "centrists" look that way compared to those bugaboos, but it's a fantasy game.”
In other words, the "centrists" look that way compared to those bugaboos, but it's a fantasy game.”
Doofus replied on Jul 27, 2009 at 15:58:54
“Western Europe, where countries have been 'socialist' & proud of it for
generations, is where 'single-payer' healthcare comes from. If we can
get over becoming socialists ourselves, then we can do single-payer too.
As for the other, the C-word, that's pretty much over, last time I looked.
Even the C*mmies are S*cialists now!
Or, maybe your point is that 'single payer' isn't 'socialist' at all, so it'd
be as ok as apple pie, for the good ol' USA, no questions asked. Right!”
generations, is where 'single-payer' healthcare comes from. If we can
get over becoming socialists ourselves, then we can do single-payer too.
As for the other, the C-word, that's pretty much over, last time I looked.
Even the C*mmies are S*cialists now!
Or, maybe your point is that 'single payer' isn't 'socialist' at all, so it'd
be as ok as apple pie, for the good ol' USA, no questions asked. Right!”
Obama and Health Care Reform: A Feckless Approach
Commented Jul 18, 2009 at 19:15:53 in Politics
“Yes, it's sad sad sad. Preserve the monster medical industrial bureaucracy with its adversarial relationship with sick people, externalise the cost of expanded coverage onto the taxpayers. Stir in a cup of blame Obama, and voila, We the People are served up another poison pie.”
Palin, Vanity Fair, Envy, and Hate
Commented Jul 02, 2009 at 16:57:35 in Politics
“Yay Allison! This drivel was so awful, I played with looking at it as some weird parody, but I'm afraid the guy is serious....”
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