“I think you are being too charitable to MIT on this. They could have acted as JSTOR did and put the brakes on the prosecution, but they declined to do so. They bear responsibility for this tragedy.”
henryberry on Jan 15, 2013 at 23:51:22
“The issue is not what MIT should have done at some point. The issue is what MIT could or should have done after they went so far as to be cooperating with prosecutors. This came at a point when it was too late for MIT to take the position that JSTOR had.
The question is not why did MIT not act like JSTOR; but why did MIT not take some helpful or remedial action when it recognized things were getting wildly and potentially dangerously out of hand.
I am not looking at this as who to blame, but what could have been done at some point before Swartz's suicide to curb and if necessary put a stop to the prosecutors' extreme heavyhandedness.”
“MIT is trying to spin this after the fact. The prosecution did not snowball out of MIT's control. JSTOR told the government that they declined to prosecute -- MIT could have done the same thing, but they did not. MIT also helped the prosecutors by turning over info on Swartz to the government.”
sledhed on Jan 16, 2013 at 00:22:13
“Kampus Kops,who couldn't make the local police force trying to get a hippie!”
bill9851 on Jan 16, 2013 at 00:04:06
“I apologize, if you are correct I was of the assumption that MIT also did not pursue prosecution?”
dudibob on Jan 15, 2013 at 23:42:00
“It didn't snowball, their legal counsel okayed it. I think if nakedsingularity's explanation is correct - he says that closet door was ALWAYS open and that all Aaron did was connect his pc to the modem ( I do it all the time at my home) - that there was no known rule against doing so and he had legal access to as many JSTOR articles as he wished, as do all the other students.”
Trollbaby on Jan 15, 2013 at 23:32:10
“So it's ok to trespass on private property and install computers on other peoples networks? Can I walk into your house and do that?”
“@PCCNYC-- I agree that Wiener's version of the 60s seems to be pretty shallow. He almost seems to be viewing it the way Don would, in the weirdly external, outside-of-it way that men who were 40 in 1968 would have experienced it. Don and his contemporaries are much more creatures of the 50s than the 60s. It's the young who were truly of that time (Though Roger is actually more open to it than the rest of the old guys).”
PCCNYC on May 27, 2013 at 22:48:08
“That's a good point. My father was about the same age in 1968, and watching the show makes we wonder what he was thinking at the time. Maybe like him Don will eventually grow out his sideburns and cultivate a beard. Though that didn't happen until the 70s!”
“Do you know how much librarians earn? And if you think librarians only do google searches, you obviously aren't using your library. Lastly, it is preferable to entrust the public's access to information to professionals with a code of ethics and public accountability rather than to an enterprise motivated by profit.”
“Lillflower, as a librarian, I'd say that public libraries are there for the public, not to indulge their employees' tastes in literature. University libraries have the canon; public libraries should have what is in demand, served without judgment.
And why are on earth would you call ebooks and movies fluff? They are formats that can deliver all kinds of content, fluffy and otherwise. And, again, the idea that librarians are gatekeepers who allow the public access only to "edifying" materials is a nineteenth-century one.”