“The curent unemployment rate doesn't count the 99ers which I wish you would mention (93 in NY state) but it seems that we've fallen off the edge of the globe. So it's more like 14% We vote you know. The other part not mentioned is the discrimination against the unemployed. If you've been laid off, you're now considered untouchable. Companies now feel they can operate with a smaller workforce and have shaken all the unwanted people free. Everyone's worried about terrorism. No one's wondering what happens to the forgotten who are or will become dispossessed from homes, apartments, etc.
Both parties have the luxury of living in a bubble and pretending that we don't exist until they begin to see unexpected changes of the revolutionary sort. It won't be televised because this group can't afford computer access, cellphones, homes, food, etc. No, this revolution will not be televised.”
coolhand on May 27, 2011 at 18:29:25
“That last paragraph is poetic, mochaview! Well written!”
“Here's the thing, America needs to stop destabilizing countries for their own interests. If you'd stay out of it there'd be no need for loans in the first place. There's never been a time when the presence of any European be they from Europe or America, was EVER good in Africa. Well Johnny Morris, China is now a player in Africa and the Africans are accepting THEIR help. This is the ONLY reason why we're hearing about it. Americans and Europeans are afraid that the 2 BILLION Africans are tired of them (and rightfully so) and are going to side with the Chinese. As the two are the oldest cultures on the earth, with Africa being the oldest, they are also learning each other's history in relation to each other and Europeans are not even considered in these discussions as you're irrelevant in that ancient timeline. Even among the knowledgeable Indians of India are exploring how the River Ganges is named after an African warrior.
The Africans are not worthless people, nor are the ones you've saddled with European slave master names here, the Caribbean and Europe. They've also always outnumbered you. So, in the grand scheme of things, your loans may not be required. Your presence in Africa, the Native Indigenous lands, Asia, Australia, New Zealand was NEVER NEEDED. All your people did was destroy what was whole.”
aztecdiva on May 12, 2014 at 08:59:54
“Let us get something straight, what happened decades ago doesn't negate the needs now. It was world sanctions on South Africa that did away with apartheid and set Mandela free. And to be quite frank, as a black and Hispanic woman in the US, any time our government can do something to unrighted a wrong then I am all for it. From famine relief to AIDS prevention, the US citizens have sent billions to the African countries. I would much rather have my tax dollars spent trying to help the Nigerian parents than searching for 300 dead people in the Indian Ocean.”
Kimiko Austin-Rijs on May 10, 2014 at 08:39:39
“I agreed with everything that you said until you said all your people did was disturb what was whole. They would have never been successful without inside help. A house divided against itself can't stand. That is why the US is falling into a crumpled heap. It has ALWAYS been divided.”
“Part 2 of 2: Sure all tribes fought all over the globe in ancient times however, here in what's now the US/ Canada, in what's now renamed the Caribbean, Australia, New Zealand, Africa- after all the fighting, they could still drink the water, breathe the air, eat the plants, the fish and the animals too. Once Europeans came onto the scene that always changed. They brought disease, hunger, death, destruction and swear that their way is the only civilized way.
The Chinese are confronting Americans/ Europeans on the continent of Africa in ways that Europeans and DEFINATELY Americans CAN NEVER approach Africa what with all that enslavement. It might seem natural to see so many Blacks here with surnames like Jackson, Johnson, Winfrey, and such but that is NOT natural. The ancestors of your favorite stars like say Michael Jackson, were stolen from Africa to build the US or slaughtered to clear the land and for soooo long Whties have been able to get away with not thinking of it but they're about to confront it with an ancient Chinese culture who is aware of ancient connections with the OLDEST culture on earth predating China and India. That's right. The Afro pick is 6,000 years old predating Egypt, going back to Kush. The Chinese don't have a history of routing the place and torturing Africans like Europeans/ Americans do.”
Shane Gericke on May 10, 2014 at 14:54:21
“The black people of Africa sold their own people to the white slavers of Europe and America. They are as guilty for the moral abomination of slavery and African exploitation as we are.
As for the Chinese, they have every bit as nasty a history of routing, torturing and enslavement as any European or American. They simply did it to different people.
Whites hardly do everything right. But I'd put our record against any other culture's.”
PandeiroMan on May 9, 2014 at 19:35:55
“Ask Tibet how great your Chinese are and I think you might get an answer that doesn't fit into your preconcieved notions.”
“Part 1 of 2: Don't think for a minute that America has an upper hand over there. America, Europe, China needs Africa's resources. Things may be made in China but its sourced in Africa. Right now the Chinese are giving the US a fit in Africa. It's not what they say on the news you watch, it's what's NOT reported. Whites in America don't know true American history, they are caught in a fantasy about America.
Let's get it straight, Europe would be nothing without Africa. NOTHING. America would be NOTHING without Africa's gift to America- it's people who built this nation for free, built the wall on Wall street, Wall street itself, all of the financial district, all of the nation's capital, the white house for free. At the time of the Civil War, ALL of the assets here were small in comparison to the value of the free labor of Africans who looked just like these girls. No one in the rest of the globe needed Europeans, not Africans, Native Indigenous, Asians, etc. It was Europe who needed all of us. Not one of these cultures knew poverty, hunger homelessness, disease until they met up with Europeans. So in Africa, if you could pull out, along with your Europeans and take your Exxons and such with you that would be great.”
pennywhite on May 12, 2014 at 11:05:09
“Europeans have done a wonderful job of trashing Africa and its people. So shouldn't some reparations be due? Shouldn't we at least do SOMETHING to help? Maybe the methods for helping are misguided, but the impulse is sincere. We owe these little girls first of all because they are little girls, but also because our destructive influence on Africa set the stage for Boko Haram. We need to know what we SHOULD do, not just what we shouldn't do. We owe at least that much to the people of Africa.”
Shane Gericke on May 10, 2014 at 15:01:20
“My goal is to rescue the poor kidnapped girls of Nigeria, and I am willing to pledge American tax money and soldiers to do it. The rest of your essay is a sideshow.
And yes, the West has committed many crimes worldwide. But bear in mind that every single slave sold to a EuroAmerican slaver was furnished by a black African. That's right, Africans sold their own children to the slave industry in order to make money.
The atrocity of slavery and human trafficking, which continues today, has many parents, not just western.”
aeuropeanvoice on May 10, 2014 at 03:31:18
“I think your passion has sidetracked you entirely from the real topics of the article.I wonder why ?
I'd like to hear from you if Nigeria should be offered help in finding back these girls .As things stand now the Nigerian government has done nothing at all,even as the soldiers in Chibok had advanced warning of the kidnapping raid .The soldiers pulled out and left the girls to their fate .Obam has offered help to the Nigerian government already more than a week ago,didn't even get any kind of reply to his offer to help untill Jogn Kerry mad the offer public .The wife of the Nigerian president apparently ordered the arrest of one of the mothers of an abducted girls for giving Nigeria a bad name .
I don't think African people are any better or worse than Europeans,Americans or Chinese .
Do I need to remind you that in ther slave trade there were multiple partners on every side ?Not only white people were involved.The 'supplying' side of it involved locals raiding villages of other tribes to kidnap slaves and sell themto Europeans .
Racism is bad,and reverse racism is equally bad .
I also dissent with the author of the article .As things stand now the mothers need every help they can get;as do do the girls themselves,not even accounting the thousands that have already been killed by Boko Haram in their raids .
I thjink false pride in this instance is simply disgusting .”
“I was wondering how long it would take to actually see the word AFRICOM on the pages of HP. I agree with most of what you say however one thing you don't mention is the fact that the US interests are not just the resources but the fact that the Chinese are in Africa offering to build it up and the Africans are saying yes for the most part.
As a Black American who grew up as a Pan-Africanist I asked about this among my own but addressed the question of what was going there to others who are from there and in the know. I knew quite well that the response from many Africans would be to tell us to mind our own business but we'll mind ours and yours because the world is shifting and it's high time that Black Americans learn about Africa's past and it's present. Keep in mind that this America would be nothing if not for the ancestors of Africans who built this nation for free. These times of ruthless greed in a connected globe spell unprecedented times for all of us. There'll soon come the day when Africans realize that the only friends they've ever had was each other. The US/Europe and China need your resources but would like to get rid of AFRICANS.Remember the US was also built on genocide.”
Miss Kitty 1925 on May 10, 2014 at 08:37:28
“That makes a lot of sense -- people in the US and Europe are in a social media movment to rescue 256 Nigerian schoolgirls kidnapped by muslim extremists because their own government is too inept to do it, but we're doing this just so we can get rid of them?! The girls being forced into slavery in this day and age, by their own people, in their own country. But what we should really do is just them realize they only have each other? Sounds like you've really solved the problem!”
May 5, 2014 at 21:48:49
“The mistake to make when speaking of the dark ages is to assume the entire globe was enduring the hell that Europe was during that time period. More advanced, older civilizations, of Asia, what's now North America and the oldest of all in Africa were not starving, diseased riddled and living in darkness until they met EUROPEANS. None of the other civilizations knew poverty, homelessness or disassociation of any sort until the ruinous day the genocidal, homicidal maniacs of Europe appeared on any scene. Yes, Africans, Asians and Native Indigenous went at each other too, YET we could still drink the water, breathe the air, eat the plants, animals and fish and everyone had a home, was connected to their tribe and respected the earth so much that from here to AFRICA the people always preserved the lands for the seventh generation ahead (yes AFRICA too). Now, once Europeans set eyes on anything, the first thing they do is destroy then build. Other people of the world, stand up to this, don't follow behind them blindly! Search your historical timeline in comparison to Europeans. Reject their narrative and their nerve to frame yours as the same when you had better. Europeans needed us, we DIDN'T nee them! Now, in the aftermath, we all suffer and the earth pleads to be free of their control.”
“No we're not going to get over it and we're not going to forget and Black people are waking up to quit being so forgiving for all the hell we've been through in the nation we built for free after we were the first to fall in the Revolutionary War. Our hair does not grow down and out, it grows UP and outwards. The Afro pick dates back 6,000 years before Christ, before there were dynasties to who would come to build pyramids in what would become Egypt. There are some 2 BILLION people with this hair on this earth. Change the regulations and accommodate Black women. In the days coming forwards, with the fight over Africa's resources, you will be lucky that brainwashed Black Americans will fight for your cause of dominance and supremacy in a nation where we can't even breathe while walking in Black skin, let alone vote.”
“The other problem not mentioned in your article is that once the unemployment insurance runs out and you go on welfare, you're in back to work classes and WEP all day. This is why there's no one out in the streets making noise about all this. You're kept busy all day either told over and over again and again how to search for the non-existent job or doing indentured servitude for a few meager dollars in benefits.
Just to put things in historical perspective, the banks and corporations responsible for this financial madness were established on FREE labor. JPMorganChase, AIG, Citibank, Brown Bros Harriman, Lehman Bros, Brooks Bros (outfitted free labor that picked cotton that was the driving crop on wall st.), Gannett Publishing, CSX, Wachovia, the wall on Wall Street, Trinity Church at the top of Wall Street, it's King College now called Columbia U,Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Brown and D.C just to name a few were all built by FREEEE LABOR. So if they all established themselves on a culture of free labor, why the H*** would they pay anyone now? Oh, dare i mention the word slavery I'm told to just get over it! Now many of ya'll are just getting INTO it! BTW, the new jobs are going to the .25 cents/hr prison labor. Check who corporations like CCA are soliciting.”
Feb 4, 2014 at 11:22:12
“Oh, it was the singers skin sorry. Other musicians have performed there but Carson NEVER reached for a knife when the musicians were White. It was the English, through their oppression of the Irish, who started a good part of what the socially engineered invention of race to begin with. They defined the Irish as other than human or a lesser human and as a different race. Also the Irish were oppressed religiously. On the Tobacco plantations of Virginia, the English bond labor holders would take this idea to the highest degree when after both luring and dragging Indentured servants from England, Ireland, and Africa (yep, Africa) they would create a social structure that was different than what was established in English colonies like Barbados/Jamaica. When the Africans (both slave and Indentured) and the European Indentured servants started insurrecting against the harshness of the English bond laborers it posed a threat to the power of dirty, exploitative England and they spun the idea of race towards that valuable free labor of Africans, now defined as a race. There'd be no Britain, no Downton w/o the genocide of Indigenous peoples of the Americas, Australia, Africa and Downton is having so much trouble because they actually have to PAY people to do the work. Book "The Invention of the White Race" by Theodore W. Allen, edited by Jeff Perry, both "White" men.”
mpasmith on Feb 4, 2014 at 15:20:05
“The English didn't see the problem as an issue of RACE. They saw the problem as an issue of CLASS.
The upper class English saw the people in the colonies exactly the same as they would have seen any lower classes in England. Many of the ranking military officers sent to the colonies were from the upper classes and saw the locals as lower class citizens that they could treat any way they wanted, just like they did at home.
The issue for the British was never about racism, it was all to do with a person's correct position in life due to their economic well being. People in India, the Cariibbean, etc etc etc were often readily accepted into society by the British if they had MONEY.
For the British nobility, it was always about who had the most money, and if that person happened to be black, brown, Irish, French, etc, then so be it.
And just for the record, there would be no AMERICA either if they'd actually have to PAY people to do the work, for the first 100 years or so that America was a country. Remember, AMERICA has a lot that wouldn't exist were it not for slave labour, too.”
“I didn't grow up in a household where skin shade was even mentioned beyond my mom calling me her chocolate drop. Later on i would realize that my father was color struck and preferred lighter skinned women. This never once came from my Mom who taught me my history and that Black was beautiful. She is light skinned and quite militant only mellowing with age. Her Bahamian background also taught me about relatives who hated being Black and others who would tell me "I didn't know I was Black until I came to America." BTW, one famous family member was James Weldon Johnson and Rosamond Johnson, their parents stemming from Andros, Bahamas.”
“Read "The Invention of the White Race" by Theodore W. Allen, edited by Jeffrey B. Perry. The idea of how Europeans became "White" is all about the British wanting to create a social structure to control labor. To use free labor, they wanted a society that would keep those free workers in check no matter where they went or what they did, never allowing them to rise above that assigned status. Get the book. Read it and then pass the word on. BTW, Allen and Perry are of European descent.”
“There are some who were quite well aware of the area's history for a long time but if you dare to buy the building and have the wrong skin suit, you are locked out of buying it to preserve it. NYC was NEVER an all White town, NEVER. Sure not every inch of anywhere can be preserved but more of NYC's past ought to be so that this nation, coming to grips with it's current crisis can better understand how such banks that created this financial crisis could use human beings as workers and as objects of trade to establish Chase, AIG, Citibank, Lehman Bros, Brown Bros Harriman, Barclay's, and also use the funds from the human trade to build Trinity/St.Paul's Churches, the wall on Wall street, Federal Hall, Fraunces Tavern, Columbia/Yale/Harvard and their descendants can look workers dead in the face today after massive layoffs/outsourcing and swear the economy is on the upswing.
Mercer/Broome/Spring Sts, Tompkins Sq Park, Little Italy/Chinatown were all once a little Harlem. Before the Gangs of NY arrived, Africans built the Five Points District. They MET us there. I know you like to sweep us and the Native Indians, the Lenapis out of your mind and the city but one day you'll realize this nation's destructive nature and culture of death to all things for love of profit and power.”
“Laugh now, cry later when the world you've created is destroyed because you, the Europeans, run amok with everything cannot respond to nature when she refuses to negotiate. She'll negotiate over all that waterfront property and the now vulnerable areas you pushed everyone out of.”
HalloNoumen on Apr 13, 2013 at 19:43:41
“Mochaview - Understand something, I sympathize with your outrage at the gentrification in NYC, OK? In particular, this current mayor has really accelerated the marginalization of the poor and working classes. Of course that falls disproportionately on Black and Hispanic folks. I get that. Yes, I am White, but I am not one of the wealthy elites, nor some new jack from Kansas, so please don't jump to those conclusions. My family has roots going back as far the 1800s in NYC, if you must know.
I just think your attributing of the situation to race is not a precise assessment. Surely the "Western" society we live in is a European construction and I am not denying the existence of White privilege. But it is not *ALL* about race... Do not ignore the factor that class plays in this. Lastly, I will say you make a very salient point about the environmental destruction that our unsustainable capitalist system is wreaking. The alarm on that has already been sounded for awhile...
“I know this but it's not their areas that are targeted for gentrification and you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. They aren't coming here for the cheap Gay, Jewish and White areas now are they? At least admit to yourself what's going on if the ego doesn't allow you to admit it outwardly. We Black and Hispanic folks know the deal about you for sure now.”
HalloNoumen on Apr 9, 2013 at 17:06:27
“"We Black and Hispanic folks know the deal about you for sure now.”
Oh noes! The word is out now... "We talk Larry, we talk..." LOL :)”
HalloNoumen on Apr 9, 2013 at 16:03:01
“"...know the deal about me for sure now."
Oh, O.K... You got me! I'm in big trouble, now. I'm sure you'll relay the message to each and every Black and Hispanic person in NY that I had the nerve to challenge your "universally-accepted" diatribe... :\”
“Well if it's that terrible, all of you hipsters can go back to where you all came from and quit pushing out the native NYer's. Now that you've ruined it, well rebuild elsewhere and don't think for a minute Mark Brennan Rosenberg, that there isn't hatred for your types of transplanted folks with terrible, selfish attitudes where you can't live alongside native NYer's in peace and harmony.
The rude attitudes we see from your set wreaks of selfishness and privilege and your arrival now, ANYWHERE we are signals your groups intentions to destroy struggling people's way of living. We won't need your art, restaurants, music, etc. this time around. We've learned a life lesson from the likes of those with unearned privilege that will not bode well for your set in the future. When the money grubbing real estate oligarchs make all the boroughs too expensive for you, you won't find an easy intro to our areas anymore. We now know you're out for the take. We are also collectively the majority in this nation and have always outnumbered you globally. Now and we are collectively waging a war on White supremacy.
Your set has made enemies with millions of people who have to be pushed out of the way in order for you to even have the experience to write this article. Laugh now, cry later.”
HalloNoumen on Apr 9, 2013 at 08:24:18
“There are White, Gay, Jewish native NYers too BTW. Just sayin'...”
“We've allowed corporations to create this mess and we the people have to put a stop to it. Even the idea of what a small business is, as defined by the SBA is a joke. Things are going to pop and no amount of drones, pepper spray, etc. is going to stop it.”
“Part 2/2: So they invented a social control and that was the idea of being called "White". With laws created to take away voting rights of free Africans in VA, ensureing that the birth of the child follows the condition of the mother, to outright racial oppression, to giving unearned privileges ONLY to those with European features and then the propaganda created to convince poor Europeans, some dragged here in chains off the streets of London/Bristol/Ireland, some descendants of Irish who lobbied congress to be called White(oh yes),that against their best interests which were in line with the enslaved African and suffering the same or worse conditions, would be better directed to be in line with their oppressors.
This brainwashing game was to convince them of a birthright of freedom, and religious rights, etc.All along, those in power controlled the reigns and so long as the AFricans and poor Europeans remained divided, their business interests would always prosper.
You Ms. Chau, see yourself as either White or near it without understanding how race was invented to control labor. "Whites" as we know it today, speak nicely, treat EACH OTHER very nicely but are born into a system of unearned privileged where they very politely keep jobs, wealth, education,networks among themselves, excluding others by rarely associating with others outside of their "race". http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/how-whites-think-about-race_n_2914787.html”
“Part 1 of 2: The part you don't mention is that the British who established the colony of Jamestown, VA also established the idea of being "White". This was done in a social structure that included only the ruling elite planter class and then bond laborers in the lowest class and that was it. The Caribbean system was differed in the Caribbean including British Barbados that used European slaves/Bond laborers first, had a system of a buffter group made up of poor Europeans, some free Africans who were in the militia, and mulattos intentionally put there to be a butter between the ruling elites and the slaves and eventually the Africans they would use for free labor ALL in the name of profit.
After awhile, between the insurrections of unified groups of Africans and Europeans in Bacon's Rebellion (in 1676) and the fact that European labor forces were dwindling and also not that strong, the Brits, the last in the slave trading game and thus learning from other's experiences, decided they needed a social control if they were going to follow behind the Spanish and Portuguese and use Africans for slave labor.”
“It's been 4 long years since a real job. Oh some temporary work in retail for the holidays but not the type of work I'm used to and for half the pay. So, since I've no money to travel, bring this manufacturing work in a clean environment here to the tri-state area of NYC and I'll do it. Oh wait a minute, I'm not currently working so I won't be considered right? By the time all of their cronies are done, those jobs will be locked up and gone already ONLY to those used to the privilege of a certain skin shade and a certain gender.
It sure sounds like a good program, great idea however corporations have no interest in bringing back any jobs as payrolls undermine their profits.”
Sundialsvc4 on Apr 4, 2013 at 14:33:44
“... not if people who aren't on payrolls can't buy their stuff. :-/
Don't tell me that the empty store-shelves that are cropping up at Wally World's are the result of a self-centered lack of willingness to hire enough people to stock them! That's a CRACK in their corporate sidewalk, mark my words, and there's a big fat empty sucking-sound underneath it.
You can only insist that the Emperor's clothes are the latest fashion . . . for so long.
Then, "Rumpelstiltskin has left the building" and Reality shows up.”
Mar 17, 2013 at 23:28:55
“You can talk that all you want to however our labor created the following that made many, including your people come here whether voluntarily, driven here or lured here as cheap labor: Slavery produced the following: Chase, AIG, Barclay's Bank, Citibank, Lehman Bros, Brown Bros Harriman, Tiffany &Co, Harvard, Yale, Columbia U, 3 White Houses, D.C., The wall on Wall Street, Federal Hall, New York City into a super power, America into a super power whether it was good bad or indifferent to you and fought on both sides of the Revolutionary War among many, many things that are far too numerous to name here.
In some cases we are mixed with Native Indigenous Blood whether you like it or not and the prejudice fills the heart the stories of both survival with some and the debauchery from others are there. I come after you saying all this because I know it will pain you to know that the idea of race, the idea of being "White" was socially engineered/ invented to divide and control labor.
Latinos and Hispanics don't enjoy hearing that such books as "The Invention of the White Race" by Theodore Allen and "how the Irish Became White" exist. Please also consider doing a google search for "Constructing Whiteness" on the university of dayton law center website.”
“Marc Joseph, in your mind you think you really have your finger on the pulse of things don't you? In your store most of your products are made overseas, not here. The banks that won't give the loans that you swear are such a great idea were started by slavery, aka, FREE LABOR. Those banks have familiar names like: Chase, AIG, Citibank, Lehman Bros, Brown Bros Harriman, Barclay's Bank, even Tiffany & Co. were all started on SLAVERY. This love of free labor affects them all to this day.
Your stores sell cheap goods that aren't designed to last, overseas by cheap, slave labor. The products with their short life cycle are environmental nightmares in the production process and once they're dumped, they never deteriorate causing further problems for the earth and those in it.
What needs to occur is the global citizenry needs to boycott the major corporations and bring them to their knees the same way we're being brought to our knees. Products we used need to be made to last unlike today and we need to break all the corporate political contributors, through boycotting and make the people we elect extend unemployment insurance, educate the citizenry instead of masses of foreigners, make the rent inexpensive again,allow people on unemployment insurance to automatically receive medicaid/food stamps/rent/mortgage aid/transportation/gas fees for job hunting and have it all financed by the taxes from the corporations that do not pay their taxes and ESPECIALLY for those that outsource.”