“Well General Garrison took full responsibility for all losses and failures after the Blackhawk Down event -- stopped his career and then he retired. He did not snivel or try to blame anyone else. He stood up and accepted the intelligence failure and the result of the administration demanding that we (the military) were tasked to do in Mogadishu.
I was never a general, but I have a career of which I am proud. I never claimed to be a hero but I certainly served along side a few. I also worked in the civilian side and came away with disdain and contempt for a hell of a lot of politicians and corporate head.”
bamasense on Jun 5, 2014 at 09:47:28
“There are plenty of reasons for the head man to step down, especially if haven gave the wrong order to others, not planning adequately, or responding appropriately. Most people have disdain and contempt for a lot of politicians (republicans mostly), and corporate heads (greedy capitalists).”
“Keep sucking up, it wont help you. You also show a propensity for giving credit where not due, for forgetting the leadership tenant where the commander is responsible for all the things his organization does or fails to do. Even a fire team leader knows that. Its like people I knew who thought what they did in the past made up for their failures in the present. BTW unless you know us both your last comment is ludicrous.”
bamasense on Jun 4, 2014 at 12:49:37
“Just how many leaders (bosses), or heads of corporations, or any other organization, do you know who will quit, or caused to be fired because an employee under them has screwed up? Get real.
It would appear that you have an illusion of grandeur, to insist that you're anywhere near as accomplished as General Shinseki. There's no reason to know you, to see that. Maybe you can list those 'accomplishments' of yours to prove me wrong.”
“Besides being off base, you are off target. Soldiers are sworn to duty and their units. This guy left his unit like a skunk sneaking off in the night. He was not captured by the enemy, he just stumbled into them. He was used by them for propaganda purposes and made comments damaging to our forces. I have freinds still MIA from Vietnam, I searched for missing soldiers and missionaries there - all who were taken, not joined. Wallow in your Bush/Cheny miasma if you want, but don't mix apples with oranges. BTW the guy was a PFC (E-3) when he left and for some reason was promoted in absentia. I hope they rescind that promotion first and then follow up with legal action.”
“BTW I consider you to be a fool in at least in terms of the IRS and F&F. When you live in the border areas and actually can read and comprehend, you would understand that they are not contrived. I really doubt you spent any time in law enforcemet, dealt with terrorism or did much actual combat. You are singing a very progressive lemming stanza there. LOL”
bamasense on Jun 3, 2014 at 19:10:10
“And I consider you the bigger fool on this board.
You fall for the created 'scandals' like any good republican. You're but a partisan follower, not having the intelligence to question anything you're told. All you've provided are rightwing, idio tic talking points, which all republican simpletons do.
“Well this war veteran is not. I have seen all too many flags who wallowed in new jobs where they did not have a minion to worry about their piles and lunch schedule. I also saw enough who coud not get off their asses to check on anything themselves. We had a so called genius who also refused to believe facts when his actual underlings and the facts did not match what he wanted them to be. I also saw generals who could never quit being generals and they failed in other environments. Way back when I went to NCO school I learned that people only do well those things the boss checks. I fear he did not do much checking. You stay with your opinon and I will stay with mine.
I don't care why he failed, I just am sure he did.
As for politics, you have no idea, just an inflated idea your your understanding and percepton. Put on your black beret and run around singing his praises.”
bamasense on Jun 3, 2014 at 19:00:03
“"I don't care why he failed, I just am sure he did.
As for politics, you have no idea, just an inflated idea your your understanding and percepton. Put on your black beret and run around singing his praises."
The only thing you can be sure of is your opinion, nothing else ... so stay ignorant, partisan, and disrespectful of a much greater, and more caring man, than yourself.”
“a lot of military flag officers find it hard to function without a personal staff dedicated to fulfilling thier every whim! When they get into the civilian side they are unable to function the same way and some find themselves isolated and ineffective as they have lost the string on working in a different venue.”
“Seems they are confusing veteran groups with individual veterans. Just like AARP and many seniors. We have our own opinions and thoughts so I tend to get irritated when the media mixes the two.”
Hufffan on Jun 1, 2014 at 22:49:43
“The media knows how to play that game to conflate the story.
The American Legion for media often translates to "all veterans" so that the amperage and frothy story telling leaves out individual veterans who wonder wtf is going on.”
“I think he got tired and lazy. All this went on under his watch and he had plenty of time to get out from behind his desk and to know what was going on. Not uncommon for high ranking people in the military and in business to get into the mode of just seeing what they are fed, rather than finding out much themselves. As a veteran I found his leadership lacking for too long.”
bamasense on Jun 1, 2014 at 21:58:53
“Have you ever run the largest bureaucracy in America, or even the smallest? Your attempt to find fault with General Shinseki is nothing but amusing.
He did a lot to helo veterans, who were homeless, who were nothing but paper files, who were made ill by agent orange, who were suffering from PTSD, and other ailments, whom were never covered prior to his tenure at the VA.
That the inner bureaucracy would lie to him, but not to such an important man as you, is just hilarious to suggest.
You should first point your republican finger to the Arizona Senators McCain and Flake, whom the veterans would have first expressed their concerns to.
I'm guessing the two were just too busy trying to repeal the PPACA some 50 times, shutting down our government, creating 'scandals' like the IRS and 'Fast and Furious', and endlessly investigating an ongoing nowhere Benghazi fantasy, than to investigate their state veterans' concerned complaints.
This war veteran is very proud of the job General Shinseki has done as VA Secretary. Not so much the GOP has ever done for my fellow veterans.”
“I am not projecting in such a way as to expect a national forum and yep, its my opinon but I expect it will only reach those in this forum. I am not trying to push it down collective throats. I certainly disagree with you and him. LOL”
“Because its not always convenient to carry under cover. Also, some dirt bags are better deterred by seeing the deterrent so no one will have to contend with armed criminals. Ask the crooks, they prefer unarmed and helpless victims - but I forget, violence will NEVER come your way.”
Jared Torrico on May 30, 2014 at 20:22:54
“I am properly prepared for violence, I also do not need to openly carry a gun to thwart off potential predators. If someone has to open carry in Sonic's to feel secure they are too afraid of what they can not control. I do not live in fear. Concealed carry is more than enough to stop a massacre, but a level head is equally important.”
“This one reason why I am an independant. These religious dip sticks think they have the only word and do not seem to realize that all they are doing is limiting their base -- Robertson is welcome to his opinion but he should keep it to himself and his family.”
murphy girl on May 30, 2014 at 19:17:55
“Phil Robertson is welcome to his opinion, but he should keep it to himself and his family. But yet you are here voicing your opinion and not keeping yours to yourself. We are all welcome to our own opinions and we are all welcome to disagree or ignore those that are different than ours.”
“Have you guys been to war? Just curious, same for the good colonel. Lots of senior officers in the military have never actually been in real close combat. Easy to make charges from the comfort of inside the beltway. As for Obama, his administration has directly caused the deaths of our own people but for some reason the media lets it slip off the screen.”
roskoreh on May 29, 2014 at 17:59:15
“Darrell I have not. Tried to respond earlier but the mods didn't like me calling Cheney an Embarrassment. I am acutely acquainted with death and human suffering and believe our government should be held accountable for causing it but there are competing interests that must be balanced whenever use of force is contemplated. My opinion is that Obama has been mostly judicious about his use of force and that Bush/Cheney were not in the least.”
BigGeorge22 on May 29, 2014 at 16:20:50
“Brenda did you mean 2011 or 2001?
Darrell I think you are confused. Obama has been trying to get us out of these messes as responsibly as possible. Not fast enough IMO, but he is moving in the right direction.”
“You are correct, but not on the level some had previously. As for difficult, just plain people do that kind of work every day. Nothing new there. I have as have my kids, and grand kids are doing today. Cutting and splitting wood for the fire, raising lifestock and growing crops. Not prisoners though, its making a living.”
“Well the Texas prison system had a very robust food growing program as well as plants to produce furniture and other products used in the prisons. prisoners learned skills and work ethics, and cost to run the prisons were reduced. Someone in our legal systems decided that such activity was cruel and unwarrented and most of the programs were shut down. Yeah, California is reinventing a wheel that never needed to be reinvented.”
CalSailor on May 29, 2014 at 00:03:58
“Some of the southern penitentiaries still have farm crops grown on the land of the penitentiary. The inmates get paid something like $0.18 per day...but they enjoy getting out of a cell and working, even if it is extremely difficult labor.
“Just proves how wise our founding fathers were in keeping religion and government separated. The decision to combine them in places such as Dearborn MI scares me in that no one is stopping the spread in areas with majorities of muslims.”
“Lets just go to the feds where there is supposed to be a mandatory five years for committing a crime with a gun - or when arresting a felon who is armed -- at least the federal attorney's office in dallas will not prosecute in a lot of cases.”
The Real Randall Flagg on May 25, 2014 at 23:38:57
“With your evidence of such egregious transgressions of the law I feel you are wasting your time posting on liberal websites.
You should be screaming this from the rooftops!
Or at least notifying & presenting your evidence to every major news outlet in the country. Shucks, you could start by presenting some actual evidence here!
Certainly if your evidence of federal attorneys breaking the law is indeed true, why I think all of the major news outlets would be clamoring to hear all about it.
Why.... you could be come famous over such revelations if that is your desire. If nothing else, you could probably make a tidy sum of money what with interviews, speaking engagements and even book deals. Again, if you actually desire any of these things.”
“I am a gun owner, supporter of the second amendment, and the rest of the constitution - I also think we need to ovehaul the mental health care and control situation and have effective background checks for commercial sales. I do not support a burden on individuals to require background checks - I strongly support full enforcement of THE EXISTING GUN laws, a practice often ignored by even federal courts.”
The Real Randall Flagg on May 25, 2014 at 23:07:26
“Please list the existing gun laws that are being ignored.
Seems that would be quite newsworthy information.”
“I got agent orange stuff long before this administration and its this administration that is blocking anything concerning desert storm and the findings. I had nearly 5 years in vietnam, spent time in other garden spots no one cared about, and in the desert and somalia -- lots of smoke and mirrors out there which this administration has proven masters of. On your crap its denied by the existing adminstration - the ones busy trying to reduce an incredible national debt the size of Jupiter by throwing spit balls at it via reducing military and veterans benefits. I know my agenda, and I know about both long term and current lies from politicians.”
bamasense on May 26, 2014 at 13:17:26
“Five tours in Vietnam ... that would be one involuntary tour, and four VOLUNTARY tours of duty there. It's like you ASKED FOR agent orange illness. Others less war-like, such as myself, never asked to be put into a war, or exposed to agent orange, but were anyhow. Then your stated tours in the desert, and in Somalia, and other places. My my, you sure got around ... voluntarily, I might add again.
I'm guessing that you just loved President cheney. But stating that President Obama is the one reducing military and veterans' benefits, is a lie at worse, and just misinformation at best. The only thing President Obama is reducing, are the wars which your republican heroes got us into needlessly, and only for Halliburton profits. You might not like peace, but the vast majority of Americans do, and ALL patriotic Americans should.”
“Well guerss what? These groups often do not speak for the rank and file of veterans. IMHO Shinseki has had plenty of time to take positive action and be well on his way to instituting reforms and taking corrective action. He has done neither. Groups? AARP claims to speak for elders, but have lost great numbers by their toadying to the administration. As for jama, self serving and not to be trusted. I wonder at your agenda here.”
Bataan on May 25, 2014 at 23:59:55
“Well moeelmore, if you look at the comments on this article and others on the same subject, you will find the "rank and file" or more appropriately, the grunts like the service they have received from VA by a factor of over 10 to 1 compared to those who have had a bad experience/poor service. So I would say in this case the veteran organizations are quite fairly representing the opinion of their members. How has you treatment at the VA been?”
marinemomof3 on May 25, 2014 at 22:18:00
“After 4 decades of neglect?
Guess what? Burr should have attended all the hearings on the Veterans Administration before he opened his mouth and then voted against the most recent bill in February. If he was that concerned AS THE ARTICLE STATES, he wouldn't have missed so many hearings. You if really that interested would have read that in the article.
Remember it was THIS administration that opened up "Agent Orange" claims, opened up to the Gulf War 1 Veterans, and to all those who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq that were DENIED under the previous administration.
I wonder what is YOUR agenda here.”
“Funny, when I was a kid I thought we had open carry in Texas (I was 15 at the time - back in 65!) and we carried hand guns in cowboy rigs. I was a cheap stunt kid for TV shows at the time and we wore the guns traveling all over the place. No one ever raised an eyebrow! Went to the store, ate lunch, bought gas, no problems. We thought concealed was against the law. I guess we were just dumb - but quite happy in our dumbness!”
Broken Spell on May 24, 2014 at 17:14:48
“Open carry was legal, outside certain urban areas. Gun racks in the back window of the truck were de rigeur, and there was a specific amount of stock /grip that had to show in order to not be "concealed."”