“You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The hole in the ozone layer had nothing whatsoever to do with melting anything.
However, regarding global warming, if we don't get seasons or any cold temperatures and that's what it takes for you to believe in AGW, it will be way, way too late for plants, animals and most humans.”
“It seemed to be mostly a combination of voluntary conservation by people and businesses with some federal assistance thrown in, but it would be interesting to revisit what was done for now, you are right.”
“They have no plan and they have no intention of coming up with a plan. They do not want people to have healthcare because it gives workers a certain amount of freedom to have affordable healthcare and removes an element of desperation from the picture.
If people are less desperate for any reason they can't be bullied as easily.”
“I agree with all of this, especially conservation. An ENORMOUS amount of energy can be saved with conservation and not the kind of conservation that has a ridiculous impact on people's lives.
In CA, when we had our energy crisis under Davis, conservation really saved us and it is the perfect place to start because everyone can start doing it immediately, no fancy equipment required.”
Linus521 on Dec 9, 2013 at 18:43:42
“Excellent! How about writing a blog on how Davis accomplished his energy conservation! We hear about this and energy that, but nothing on attempting to conserve our energies.
If you can remember all he did, why not post it? It's like an excellent read and a great way to help Earth. I sure would enjoy knowing some ideas on conservation. Regardless, we're going to have to practice it at some point, right?
Why not blog what Davis accomplished on the HP? I'll sure read it!”
“All you have done with this is prove that industry has far too much influence in politics allowed by both parties.
Monsanto does not provide the most experienced people for these positions, they just have way too much influence and insinuate themselves everywhere they have paved the way with their ability to buy their way in.”
“Doublespeak. Just for the record, I really object to paying your salary when you don't do your job.
Put the jobs out there and people will work. Unemployment can at least give people a little leeway to keep looking for work. Without it, they will just have to go on public assistance which hardly saves any money in the long run and will probably make people feel even more hopeless.”
“No need to live in a cave. Germany has a goal of producing 100% of its energy from renewable sources by 2050, including 25% from solar and they have less solar capacity than Alaska. Considering our capacity for solar, it is ridiculous that we are not moving forward with this technology.
Once Reagan took the solar panels off the WH, alternative energy was pushed aside. They have not received anywhere near the subsidies that the fossil fuel industry has. It is laughable to compare them.
Unlimited CO2 is not good for plants, especially not when in conjunction with other aspects of global warming such as the higher temperatures and drought. Recent open air, real life experiments debunk that.
Fossil fuels are highly polluting and we have run out of the easily accessible sources. It is ridiculous to think that carbon which was sequestered for millions of years can be released with no effect.”
BluePhantom2 on Dec 10, 2013 at 22:17:30
“Grace you must be a little behind in your news as Germany is mothballing their Nuc plants and replacing them with coal! Where you been? I'm all for solar on your roof like it is in Alaska but it will never replace base load supply. CO2 is plant food up to around 1000% higher that it currently is .04%.”
The reason these are a problem is because they are being implemented using the big business model. Smaller turbines and solar panels on individual buildings would be the most efficient and best for ecosystems as well.”
“First of all it is "ethanol," in case that was not just a typo.
Secondly, it is fine to say stop all subsidies now when the fossil fuel industry has enjoyed subsidies for decades and there is still a lot of work to be done to get alternatives off the ground, especially with all of the effort involved to stop them.
We have to switch to alternatives. Better to do it now before it is a more difficult transition.”
BluePhantom2 on Dec 8, 2013 at 09:57:58
“Wind and solar have been given true subsidy (That's money directly passed to them plus the usual tax breaks!) for decades and still can't compete. While the technology involved in solar is quite complex a windmill on the other hand is ancient technology. And the argument for "We have to get off fossil fuels" is getting weaker and weaker every day. CO2 is not poison it's plant food and apparently does not control the earths climate! I'm all for conservation and keeping the environment clean but not willing to live in a cave to do it.”
“Do you have any information on the effect of mountain top removal on ecosystems? Seems that would be a pretty big impact as would a major oil spill, drilling in sensitive areas, fracking, etc.
It is fine to minimize deaths from wind turbines (research shows that turbines painted purple, for instance, attract fewer insects and therefor fewer bats) and solar installations. Minimizing problems from solar farms if we did not have farms at all and we put panels on roofs instead of building some giant installations, but that does not sit well with corporations looking to make money.”
Linus521 on Dec 9, 2013 at 11:46:39
“You're correct about corporations. Corps have been killing and raping the body, face, heart, lungs and lifeblood of Earth since the dawn of 'civilization'.
One mayoral candidate wants to solar every parking lot. Yeah! How about all that empty space in America on roofs, buildings, parking lots and shopping centers. Smart!
One nation in Europe derives all its energy, all, from recycling trash and refuse back into energy. This is accomplished in a sealed building, and we wouldn't have to gouge and skin Earth for landfills.
They've begun to design a "vertical" windmill, they're hoping is safer. Why not much shorter and smaller windmills for backyards, parking lots, etc. Why kill Earth and her strands in the web of all life when we have safer options by incorporating the alternatives where people actually require it, and it doesn't have to be piped in, killing more planet?
No one ever discusses energy conservation; we just keep on gorging on it.
A school in Iowa tapped into geothermal energy, right under the school building, and we now have solar roof shingles. We need to discover how much energy a short, smaller windmill could deliver to a single residence? I don't know, but I do know what science states about ravaging ecosystems and biological diversity. Mankind's existence is as inextricably interconnected to the fate of birds, bats and eagles as the Earth is to the sun! They're the job-holders in the eco-nomy of life itself!”
“No it is not weird. You just love the parts that were a good fit with you. Unfortunately, people are not 100% one thing or the other most of the time so it is with mixed feelings we leave relationships.
I believe as long as you keep moving forward, you will be okay.”
Dec 7, 2013 at 17:53:07
“Yes, I know. We definitely need more space dedicated to urban gardening. I know there are also efforts to grow things on rooftops and even down the sides of buildings to help mitigate the energy needed by buildings for AC.
I was just wondering if the homeless are considered eligible because otherwise they are even more restricted in what they can buy on food stamps as they have no means to refrigerate or cook food. They are allowed to buy fast food because of this but then we are right back where we started.”
singermuse on Dec 7, 2013 at 18:40:24
“Exactly. I keep thinking about that urban garden down in Los Angeles that was torn down. It had been feeding hundreds of people! Some celebs were even arrested protesting the demolition.”