naugiedoggie's Comments (32)
View From Cairo: What About the People, Obama?
Commented Jun 04, 2009 at 21:40:19 in World
“You know that old comedy canard about "stop being on my side, you're not helping"? Sometimes, that is how I feel about leftists. You need more than the right politics, you need common sense. I know it's lacking on the other side of the aisle, but I don't live there.
Good government is ambiguous and fluid. When it comes down solely on one side of politics or the other, it inevitably becomes autocratic.
One point: of course, Obama is talking to governments. He is the representative of OUR gov't. He's not running for office in Egypt or Israel.
Thanks.
mp”
Good government is ambiguous and fluid. When it comes down solely on one side of politics or the other, it inevitably becomes autocratic.
One point: of course, Obama is talking to governments. He is the representative of OUR gov't. He's not running for office in Egypt or Israel.
Thanks.
mp”
factotem replied on Jun 04, 2009 at 22:44:15
“I'm rooting for Obama. I voted for him.
But this speech suffered from confusion over his role. It was like listening to a really naive priest.”
But this speech suffered from confusion over his role. It was like listening to a really naive priest.”
Don't You Think Forgiveness is Overrated?
Commented May 01, 2009 at 21:49:18 in Living
“Seems to me that the author has so completely missed the point of offering forgiveness that she's completely off in the desert.
Her whole fixation about forgiveness derives from a self-centered "me vs them" mentality. Forgiveness is not about you, the individual committing the act of forgiveness, it is about them, those who have wronged you in some way. Jesus said, "What does it matter if you love them that love you? Does not every sinner do the same?"
There is no "means test" for forgiveness. The very idea is repugnant. Forgiveness is the act whereby you dissolve the power of the pain given you by that other individual. And if nothing else, the author should ponder on the grace conveyed by the Lord, wherein she is forgiven. To quote Cathleen Falsani, "Justice is getting what you deserve. Mercy is not getting what you deserve. And grace is getting what you absolutely don't deserve."
Offering forgiveness is an extension of grace. If it was easy to do, it would be merely another act of the aimless sinner.
Thanks.
mp
Thanks.
mp”
Her whole fixation about forgiveness derives from a self-centered "me vs them" mentality. Forgiveness is not about you, the individual committing the act of forgiveness, it is about them, those who have wronged you in some way. Jesus said, "What does it matter if you love them that love you? Does not every sinner do the same?"
There is no "means test" for forgiveness. The very idea is repugnant. Forgiveness is the act whereby you dissolve the power of the pain given you by that other individual. And if nothing else, the author should ponder on the grace conveyed by the Lord, wherein she is forgiven. To quote Cathleen Falsani, "Justice is getting what you deserve. Mercy is not getting what you deserve. And grace is getting what you absolutely don't deserve."
Offering forgiveness is an extension of grace. If it was easy to do, it would be merely another act of the aimless sinner.
Thanks.
mp
Thanks.
mp”
jstowe100 replied on May 03, 2009 at 22:11:32
“Very well said, and that quote from Jesus is one of my favorites. . . "What credit is that to you, if you love only those that love you?"
I totally disagree with the author's claim that love must be earned. So many seem to give their so-called love on a reward basis -- I love her, because she does my laundry, or because she comes to my graduation, or remembers my birthday, or because she puts MY needs ahead of her own. In short, I love her because she does for me.
Love, and forgiveness, are not object-based acts.”
I totally disagree with the author's claim that love must be earned. So many seem to give their so-called love on a reward basis -- I love her, because she does my laundry, or because she comes to my graduation, or remembers my birthday, or because she puts MY needs ahead of her own. In short, I love her because she does for me.
Love, and forgiveness, are not object-based acts.”
Three Steps To Declutter Your Computer
Commented Apr 16, 2009 at 21:21:35 in Living
“Well, I wasted a lot of time writing out some tips, only to find out that the comment overran the length limit. I'm not going to waste more time trying "edit" it down, so I'll restrict myself to one item. Annoying. Huff Post commenting system is pretty scrappy, I'm afraid. I forget how funky it is until the odd time like this, when I use it again.
So, here is my tip:
Use Quick Launch bar for software that you use often. Once you have more than 3 or 4 shortcuts on it, drag it toward the edge of the menu bar and it will fold up into a hidden popout menu. I have maybe a dozen or so shortcuts on the QL, with 3 or 4 showing. The rest pop out when I click the chevron that marks the overflow. If you put something on the QL bar and then find you aren't really using it, drag it off and delete it. You can drag the shortcuts around on the QL bar so that your most popular ones are showing. The QL bar can be a huge time saver, allowing you to get at your most popular applications -- well, "quickly."
Thanks.
mp”
So, here is my tip:
Use Quick Launch bar for software that you use often. Once you have more than 3 or 4 shortcuts on it, drag it toward the edge of the menu bar and it will fold up into a hidden popout menu. I have maybe a dozen or so shortcuts on the QL, with 3 or 4 showing. The rest pop out when I click the chevron that marks the overflow. If you put something on the QL bar and then find you aren't really using it, drag it off and delete it. You can drag the shortcuts around on the QL bar so that your most popular ones are showing. The QL bar can be a huge time saver, allowing you to get at your most popular applications -- well, "quickly."
Thanks.
mp”
The Weight Loss Hype: Why Counting Calories Never Works
Commented Mar 26, 2009 at 22:11:20 in Living
“Hello,
Two things: First, any dietary regime maintains your weight or loses weight only if you are comfortable with it, to the point that you will maintain it. I know low-calorie dieting works because I've done it. Low carb works better. (In fact, people who used low-carb diets to lose weight have been shown in a recent study to keep the weight off longer than people in the low-cal group. This study was written up in Science News recently.)
Second, while it's correct that muscle weighs more than fat, the point of dieting is not to lose weight, it's to lose fat! Even though you may at first see weight gain or reduced loss as a result of exercise, in the long run you will lose the fat and the excess weight. In addition, muscle-building exercise burns calories and as you get into shape, your body burns calories more efficiently, so you need less to maintain yourself. For example, triathletes in training only consume between 2000 and 2500 calories per day. They are spending hours running, swimming and riding on perhaps one quarter more caloric intake than an ordinary individual who spends 20 minutes a day on their bowflex, three times a week.
Exercise is key.
Thanks.
mp”
Two things: First, any dietary regime maintains your weight or loses weight only if you are comfortable with it, to the point that you will maintain it. I know low-calorie dieting works because I've done it. Low carb works better. (In fact, people who used low-carb diets to lose weight have been shown in a recent study to keep the weight off longer than people in the low-cal group. This study was written up in Science News recently.)
Second, while it's correct that muscle weighs more than fat, the point of dieting is not to lose weight, it's to lose fat! Even though you may at first see weight gain or reduced loss as a result of exercise, in the long run you will lose the fat and the excess weight. In addition, muscle-building exercise burns calories and as you get into shape, your body burns calories more efficiently, so you need less to maintain yourself. For example, triathletes in training only consume between 2000 and 2500 calories per day. They are spending hours running, swimming and riding on perhaps one quarter more caloric intake than an ordinary individual who spends 20 minutes a day on their bowflex, three times a week.
Exercise is key.
Thanks.
mp”
Convention Dispatch: Does It Always Have to Be About the Clintons?
Commented Aug 25, 2008 at 16:56:37 in Politics
“Or, perhaps we just recognized the best candidate and went with quality, rather than ooh/aaah over flash.
Now that Obama is looking as flaccid as an unwatered flower in summer, we face the real possibility of losing an election. Not because we don't support the Democratic candidate, but because the Democratic candidate has whinged and doubled back on every single promise he made during the primary campaign. The original Obama persona was about as real as the StaPuff marshmallow man. All the people who did not vote in the Dem primaries are now looking at him ... and they don't seem to like what they see.
Now, tell me again, WHY is that anybody's fault but the candidate's? It's Hillary Clinton's fault that Barack Obama can't hold a position against a 4 mph breeze?
Thanks.
mp”
Now that Obama is looking as flaccid as an unwatered flower in summer, we face the real possibility of losing an election. Not because we don't support the Democratic candidate, but because the Democratic candidate has whinged and doubled back on every single promise he made during the primary campaign. The original Obama persona was about as real as the StaPuff marshmallow man. All the people who did not vote in the Dem primaries are now looking at him ... and they don't seem to like what they see.
Now, tell me again, WHY is that anybody's fault but the candidate's? It's Hillary Clinton's fault that Barack Obama can't hold a position against a 4 mph breeze?
Thanks.
mp”
Convention Dispatch: Does It Always Have to Be About the Clintons?
Commented Aug 25, 2008 at 16:49:41 in Politics
“"That Clinton's top surrogates are now saying Obama's major task is to appease Bill Clinton - rather than, say, win the election - shows just how egomaniacal the Clintons really are."
Does every Clinton-hater have to use every public appearance of the Clintons as an excuse to pound the keyboard?
Please, Mr. Sirota, cite your source that Wolfson vetted his comments with either of the Clintons before publishing. What, you say you can't? Because you don't have one?
Why, I'm shocked ... shocked that you would make unsubstantiated claims and pass them off as facts.
Riiiiight.
Now that Barack Obama has turned out to be a flaccid and unconvincing candidate on the general campaign trail -- complete with a bizarre "vacation" trip to Hawaii when he should have been pounding the campaign streets -- why don't you spend more time pumping up the candidate you pimped so hard a few months ago? He needs some air, badly. He is looking more and more like a loser.
Thanks.
mp”
Does every Clinton-hater have to use every public appearance of the Clintons as an excuse to pound the keyboard?
Please, Mr. Sirota, cite your source that Wolfson vetted his comments with either of the Clintons before publishing. What, you say you can't? Because you don't have one?
Why, I'm shocked ... shocked that you would make unsubstantiated claims and pass them off as facts.
Riiiiight.
Now that Barack Obama has turned out to be a flaccid and unconvincing candidate on the general campaign trail -- complete with a bizarre "vacation" trip to Hawaii when he should have been pounding the campaign streets -- why don't you spend more time pumping up the candidate you pimped so hard a few months ago? He needs some air, badly. He is looking more and more like a loser.
Thanks.
mp”
smags72 replied on Aug 25, 2008 at 20:22:08
“I don't understand why it is so wrong for Obama to take a much-needed vacation with his family before the very difficult part of this election fires up. After the election he'll have so much to do to prepare for, and start, his new job he won't be able to take a vacation. Wouldn't you rather him take it now instead of when he's supposed to be RUNNING THE COUNTRY? Oh wait, I guess after Bush's 16 vacations a year, you're probably used to that instead.
We all deserve a break, no matter how stressful or not our lives are - don't you think he has a pretty stressful life right now?? He'd better have his rest now, and power up for the REAL Republican assault. Give me a break! Maybe YOU need a vacation - bitter much?”
We all deserve a break, no matter how stressful or not our lives are - don't you think he has a pretty stressful life right now?? He'd better have his rest now, and power up for the REAL Republican assault. Give me a break! Maybe YOU need a vacation - bitter much?”
dudervision replied on Aug 25, 2008 at 17:46:03
“Children, if you keep up this kind of behavior, we are going to have to make each of you go to your quiet time corners!
Please, let's keep out eye on the prize, winning this election and ending the nightmare of the last 8 years!!!!”
Please, let's keep out eye on the prize, winning this election and ending the nightmare of the last 8 years!!!!”
lafemme replied on Aug 25, 2008 at 17:41:24
“The constant denogration of the Clintons without substantiation (sigh, where to start) adds nothing to the discussion of issues in this election. In fact, it seems to do little else but position the Clinton-haters with their favorite excuses for the unthinkable - why Obama will have lost the election. This is what the Clinton-haters don't get - there are more urgent issues in this election than your hatred of the Clintons. Can we get back to the point, now, please??”
Beca replied on Aug 25, 2008 at 17:36:23
“Why don't you go to the "New Republic" there you will read what Wolfson said, Sirota didn't make it up!
Besides, Wolfson has always spoken for the Clinton when he is being interviewed, why would anyone think that during this interview he decided to speak for himself only! That is really reaching far for you to stay in denial about the major grudge the Clintons are holding!
It has been clear that the Clintons and their adrent followers still feel they should be given a parade or something! Just look at the half-hearted way they have been "supporting" the Obama campaign! with that kind of "support" one does not need adversaries!
Here is the point, this is not about the Clintons and stroking their huge egos! This is about the future of our country and who is the best candidate to get us back on track--clearly that is Obama. This is also about making sure a Democrat becomes President in order to end the Republican tyrany and destruction of this country.”
Besides, Wolfson has always spoken for the Clinton when he is being interviewed, why would anyone think that during this interview he decided to speak for himself only! That is really reaching far for you to stay in denial about the major grudge the Clintons are holding!
It has been clear that the Clintons and their adrent followers still feel they should be given a parade or something! Just look at the half-hearted way they have been "supporting" the Obama campaign! with that kind of "support" one does not need adversaries!
Here is the point, this is not about the Clintons and stroking their huge egos! This is about the future of our country and who is the best candidate to get us back on track--clearly that is Obama. This is also about making sure a Democrat becomes President in order to end the Republican tyrany and destruction of this country.”
Microsoft CEO Egg Thrower Should Spend Night in Jail (Then Apologize)
Commented May 21, 2008 at 07:21:41 in Business
“Hmm, well the author is implying that he himself has been "beaned by an egg" of late, which naturally begs the question of why anyone would be throwing eggs at him.
Perhaps, it is his sympathy for the CEO rather than for the users of Micro$oft software. Or the targets of Micro$oft lawsuits.
Sorry, but of all the events in the corporate world that might rouse my ire, Steve Ballmer getting egged is really, really down the list. I don't think there is any legal act that Ballmer would find immoral, if its commission would drive up his stock value even by a single point. We are, after all, talking about the company that is trying to scuttle the One Laptop program; and that refused to allow third world countries to use its DOS for old computers without paying royalties to M$, even though DOS had been off the market for a decade.
Nope, I'd give the man an egg, myself.
Thanks.
mp”
Perhaps, it is his sympathy for the CEO rather than for the users of Micro$oft software. Or the targets of Micro$oft lawsuits.
Sorry, but of all the events in the corporate world that might rouse my ire, Steve Ballmer getting egged is really, really down the list. I don't think there is any legal act that Ballmer would find immoral, if its commission would drive up his stock value even by a single point. We are, after all, talking about the company that is trying to scuttle the One Laptop program; and that refused to allow third world countries to use its DOS for old computers without paying royalties to M$, even though DOS had been off the market for a decade.
Nope, I'd give the man an egg, myself.
Thanks.
mp”
Top 10 Reasons Obama Defeated Clinton for the Democratic Nomination
Commented May 13, 2008 at 12:11:00 in Politics
“Notice the one item not on the list: workable ideas that will make life in America better.
A true media-driven candidate, "all hat and no cattle." But, who needs cattle when you are that good looking of a hat?
Thanks.
mp”
A true media-driven candidate, "all hat and no cattle." But, who needs cattle when you are that good looking of a hat?
Thanks.
mp”
wendelgee2 replied on May 13, 2008 at 13:39:00
“Sadly, that's not really what's needed to win a political campaign. He does have cattle though...i f you've ever watched him in one of the hundreds of townhall meetings he's had in the last 9 months, you would know that.”
Going On Dates With God: Not Your Typical Three-Way
Commented Apr 30, 2008 at 19:17:54 in Living
“I'm decidedly uninterested in the material aspects of Christmas. At Christmas and Birthday, I like to give my wife a fancy present that will be a pleasant surprise. And I give my kids one (usually fancy) present at Christmas and Birthday. The tree, the baubles ... I don't care. I like going to the early services at church and I think a lot about God's grace and how little I deserve it. And that leads me to think about "the Advocate" as Edward Taylor called him in his poetry. Full circle.
My wife, OTOH, loves putting up the tree, baubles and lights, inside and out. And, she isn't bothered by the fact I don't care -- it just means we don't get into "discussions" about the best way to do it. ;-) My only assigned task is to drag the tree out afterwards and pitch it off the bluff into the ravine behind our house. Suits me.
Thanks.
mp”
My wife, OTOH, loves putting up the tree, baubles and lights, inside and out. And, she isn't bothered by the fact I don't care -- it just means we don't get into "discussions" about the best way to do it. ;-) My only assigned task is to drag the tree out afterwards and pitch it off the bluff into the ravine behind our house. Suits me.
Thanks.
mp”
Last Night Clinton Won the Pennsylvania Primary, but Lost the War for the Nomination
Commented Apr 23, 2008 at 11:29:20 in Politics
“Perhaps, they believe in something called "democracy ." You know, a method of organization and government in which the people who make up the organization actually have a say in how it works? If you really perfer a more "top down" approach, in which the party leaders determine the candidate, all I can say is -- you're in the wrong party.
Thanks.
mp”
Thanks.
mp”
britethere replied on Apr 23, 2008 at 11:53:31
“Exactly... and that is why the candidate with the most elected delegates, the format for the primary the the outcome planned and stratigized for brilliantly by Obama, should win.
OBAMA '08”
OBAMA '08”
DenveRockwell replied on Apr 23, 2008 at 11:46:03
“And if you're a Clinton supporter, you must also understand that it makes our "democracy" as close to a "monarchy" as you can get.
Just say no to two families in charge of America for 20+ years! This is NOT how our government should work!
Just say no to Bush-Clint on-Bush-Cl inton!
GOBAMA!”
Just say no to two families in charge of America for 20+ years! This is NOT how our government should work!
Just say no to Bush-Clint
GOBAMA!”
A Rebuttal To The IT Department Blocking Bing
Commented Apr 09, 2008 at 22:24:08 in Business
“A big problem for corp offices is that many office workers are internet beachcombers ... they pick up all kinds of trash and bring it home -- to the corp network -- while out surfing. Since I got my first "internets" account in 1994, the only times I have picked up a virus of any kind has been while plugged into a corporate network. And even with modern enterprise AV software, it can be extremely difficult to expunge one of these parasites, once loose in a network with hundreds or even thousands of computers.
Nonetheless, I'm on the side of more freedom rather than less. I think the impact on morale of being regarded as untrustworthy is greater than the relative IT benefits of surf restrictions. While I was in the cube farm, our corporate policy was simple: we hired you as adults, we expect you to act as adults. It seems to work.
Thanks.
mp”
Nonetheless, I'm on the side of more freedom rather than less. I think the impact on morale of being regarded as untrustworthy is greater than the relative IT benefits of surf restrictions. While I was in the cube farm, our corporate policy was simple: we hired you as adults, we expect you to act as adults. It seems to work.
Thanks.
mp”
Top 10 Myths Keeping Hillary in the Race
Commented Apr 03, 2008 at 23:28:54 in Home
“A classic example of setting up a straw man in order to knock him down. None of these supposed "arguments," if they really exist anywhere in HuffPost comments (I haven't seen them & I read quite a bit of it), have anything to do with the reality of the competition, which is on ISSUES.
Like almost all Obama-bots, and certainly all bots posting in the comments section, "Chip" is all about avoiding any discussion of issues. Yes, that is because Obama's positions on issues suck in almost every case when compared to Clinton's positions. He comes down to the right of the putative "centrist" candidate on healthcare, Iraq, finance, relations with Cuba. His issue whitepapers are full of air -- as someone once said, "hope is not a plan." A statement like "work to see that all children are vaccinated" is not a plan to get those vaccinations accomplished.
If you wanted to sort out the Clinton supporters from the Obama supporters, one way to do it would be to look at who wants to talk about issues, and who wants to talk about ... speeches. Who speaks in favor of their candidate and who talks trash about the other candidate? Pretty simple. Clinton supporter: issues. Obama supporter: air pollution.
So, here is my challenge, "Chip": rewrite this silly column and pick the top ten issue-related "myths" about Obama's positions and tell us why you think his positions are more progressive than Clinton's positions.
Thanks.
mp”
Like almost all Obama-bots, and certainly all bots posting in the comments section, "Chip" is all about avoiding any discussion of issues. Yes, that is because Obama's positions on issues suck in almost every case when compared to Clinton's positions. He comes down to the right of the putative "centrist" candidate on healthcare, Iraq, finance, relations with Cuba. His issue whitepapers are full of air -- as someone once said, "hope is not a plan." A statement like "work to see that all children are vaccinated" is not a plan to get those vaccinations accomplished.
If you wanted to sort out the Clinton supporters from the Obama supporters, one way to do it would be to look at who wants to talk about issues, and who wants to talk about ... speeches. Who speaks in favor of their candidate and who talks trash about the other candidate? Pretty simple. Clinton supporter: issues. Obama supporter: air pollution.
So, here is my challenge, "Chip": rewrite this silly column and pick the top ten issue-related "myths" about Obama's positions and tell us why you think his positions are more progressive than Clinton's positions.
Thanks.
mp”
eggman replied on Apr 04, 2008 at 09:09:37
“His positions are to the right of Clinton's and he has no positions. Got it.
I'll say what I've said before about issues: don't listen to what anyone here or in the media says about any of them. Clinton's Obama's and McCain's positions are there for everyone to see, details or not details, on their campaign websites. You'll be surprised at what the candidates say compared to what the pundits and posters would have you believe.”
I'll say what I've said before about issues: don't listen to what anyone here or in the media says about any of them. Clinton's Obama's and McCain's positions are there for everyone to see, details or not details, on their campaign websites. You'll be surprised at what the candidates say compared to what the pundits and posters would have you believe.”
eggman replied on Apr 04, 2008 at 09:09:37
“His positions are to the right of Clinton's and he has no positions. Got it.
I'll say what I've said before about issues: don't listen to what anyone here or in the media says about any of them. Clinton's Obama's and McCain's positions are there for everyone to see, details or not details, on their campaign websites. You'll be surprised at what the candidates say compared to what the pundits and posters would have you believe.”
I'll say what I've said before about issues: don't listen to what anyone here or in the media says about any of them. Clinton's Obama's and McCain's positions are there for everyone to see, details or not details, on their campaign websites. You'll be surprised at what the candidates say compared to what the pundits and posters would have you believe.”
aflem replied on Apr 04, 2008 at 03:11:59
“Just a question but didn't you just disprove your argument? Clinton Supporter:Issues Obama Supporter: air polution. Then you go on to slam Obama. That doesn't make any sense.”
aflem replied on Apr 04, 2008 at 03:11:59
“Just a question but didn't you just disprove your argument? Clinton Supporter:Issues Obama Supporter: air polution. Then you go on to slam Obama. That doesn't make any sense.”
Top 10 Myths Keeping Hillary in the Race
Commented Apr 03, 2008 at 23:28:54 in Home
“A classic example of setting up a straw man in order to knock him down. None of these supposed "arguments," if they really exist anywhere in HuffPost comments (I haven't seen them & I read quite a bit of it), have anything to do with the reality of the competition, which is on ISSUES.
Like almost all Obama-bots, and certainly all bots posting in the comments section, "Chip" is all about avoiding any discussion of issues. Yes, that is because Obama's positions on issues suck in almost every case when compared to Clinton's positions. He comes down to the right of the putative "centrist" candidate on healthcare, Iraq, finance, relations with Cuba. His issue whitepapers are full of air -- as someone once said, "hope is not a plan." A statement like "work to see that all children are vaccinated" is not a plan to get those vaccinations accomplished.
If you wanted to sort out the Clinton supporters from the Obama supporters, one way to do it would be to look at who wants to talk about issues, and who wants to talk about ... speeches. Who speaks in favor of their candidate and who talks trash about the other candidate? Pretty simple. Clinton supporter: issues. Obama supporter: air pollution.
So, here is my challenge, "Chip": rewrite this silly column and pick the top ten issue-related "myths" about Obama's positions and tell us why you think his positions are more progressive than Clinton's positions.
Thanks.
mp”
Like almost all Obama-bots, and certainly all bots posting in the comments section, "Chip" is all about avoiding any discussion of issues. Yes, that is because Obama's positions on issues suck in almost every case when compared to Clinton's positions. He comes down to the right of the putative "centrist" candidate on healthcare, Iraq, finance, relations with Cuba. His issue whitepapers are full of air -- as someone once said, "hope is not a plan." A statement like "work to see that all children are vaccinated" is not a plan to get those vaccinations accomplished.
If you wanted to sort out the Clinton supporters from the Obama supporters, one way to do it would be to look at who wants to talk about issues, and who wants to talk about ... speeches. Who speaks in favor of their candidate and who talks trash about the other candidate? Pretty simple. Clinton supporter: issues. Obama supporter: air pollution.
So, here is my challenge, "Chip": rewrite this silly column and pick the top ten issue-related "myths" about Obama's positions and tell us why you think his positions are more progressive than Clinton's positions.
Thanks.
mp”
eggman replied on Apr 04, 2008 at 09:09:37
“His positions are to the right of Clinton's and he has no positions. Got it.
I'll say what I've said before about issues: don't listen to what anyone here or in the media says about any of them. Clinton's Obama's and McCain's positions are there for everyone to see, details or not details, on their campaign websites. You'll be surprised at what the candidates say compared to what the pundits and posters would have you believe.”
I'll say what I've said before about issues: don't listen to what anyone here or in the media says about any of them. Clinton's Obama's and McCain's positions are there for everyone to see, details or not details, on their campaign websites. You'll be surprised at what the candidates say compared to what the pundits and posters would have you believe.”
eggman replied on Apr 04, 2008 at 09:09:37
“His positions are to the right of Clinton's and he has no positions. Got it.
I'll say what I've said before about issues: don't listen to what anyone here or in the media says about any of them. Clinton's Obama's and McCain's positions are there for everyone to see, details or not details, on their campaign websites. You'll be surprised at what the candidates say compared to what the pundits and posters would have you believe.”
I'll say what I've said before about issues: don't listen to what anyone here or in the media says about any of them. Clinton's Obama's and McCain's positions are there for everyone to see, details or not details, on their campaign websites. You'll be surprised at what the candidates say compared to what the pundits and posters would have you believe.”
aflem replied on Apr 04, 2008 at 03:11:59
“Just a question but didn't you just disprove your argument? Clinton Supporter:Issues Obama Supporter: air polution. Then you go on to slam Obama. That doesn't make any sense.”
aflem replied on Apr 04, 2008 at 03:11:59
“Just a question but didn't you just disprove your argument? Clinton Supporter:Issues Obama Supporter: air polution. Then you go on to slam Obama. That doesn't make any sense.”
Not Until the Fat Lady Sings
Commented Apr 01, 2008 at 06:58:22 in Politics
“So this is "change you can believe in": the daughter is "fair game" for meanspirited personal attacks about shameful behavior of her father TEN YEARS AGO. And what is the point of this personal attack? To make the candidate whose mantra is "change you can believe it" look better?
I wish someone would explain to me how your contemptible personal attacks on the daughter who loves and believes in her mother are supposed to inspire me to regard your "change you can believe in" motto as anything other than a despicable, phony front for the same old attack politics of the Republican Party.
I'm waiting.
Thanks.
mp”
I wish someone would explain to me how your contemptible personal attacks on the daughter who loves and believes in her mother are supposed to inspire me to regard your "change you can believe in" motto as anything other than a despicable, phony front for the same old attack politics of the Republican Party.
I'm waiting.
Thanks.
mp”
JasonEverettMiller replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:22:25
“None of these comments rise to the level of personal attack. First, they are talking about what someone else did and why they thought the questions was appropriate.
To ask, "Do you think the Lewinsky affair made your mom stronger?" is not a personal attack. Now, if the question was, "Does your mom like cigars too?" that would be a personal attack.
And you guys accuse us of having thin skin.
Simple fact of the matter is the Clinton campaign (and her rabid supports like yourself) come on these boards and cry "victim" while using the tactics they are disclaiming. You must really think we are a bunch of idiots who can't hold multiple plot lines in our head all at once.
Simple fact of the matter is that both Bill and Hillary have yet to be held accountable for anything they have done. Voting for the war. No accountability. Getting on TV and LYING to us with a straight face, over and over, both about Bosnia and blow-jobs. No accountability.
It's the same thing that the republicans have enjoyed from their supporters. Lie, cheat and steal, yet still get re-elected. This country's voters better wake the hell up and start holding these clowns accountable, all of them, or we are done.
Game over.”
To ask, "Do you think the Lewinsky affair made your mom stronger?" is not a personal attack. Now, if the question was, "Does your mom like cigars too?" that would be a personal attack.
And you guys accuse us of having thin skin.
Simple fact of the matter is the Clinton campaign (and her rabid supports like yourself) come on these boards and cry "victim" while using the tactics they are disclaiming. You must really think we are a bunch of idiots who can't hold multiple plot lines in our head all at once.
Simple fact of the matter is that both Bill and Hillary have yet to be held accountable for anything they have done. Voting for the war. No accountability. Getting on TV and LYING to us with a straight face, over and over, both about Bosnia and blow-jobs. No accountability.
It's the same thing that the republicans have enjoyed from their supporters. Lie, cheat and steal, yet still get re-elected. This country's voters better wake the hell up and start holding these clowns accountable, all of them, or we are done.
Game over.”
JasonEverettMiller replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:22:25
“None of these comments rise to the level of personal attack. First, they are talking about what someone else did and why they thought the questions was appropriate.
To ask, "Do you think the Lewinsky affair made your mom stronger?" is not a personal attack. Now, if the question was, "Does your mom like cigars too?" that would be a personal attack.
And you guys accuse us of having thin skin.
Simple fact of the matter is the Clinton campaign (and her rabid supports like yourself) come on these boards and cry "victim" while using the tactics they are disclaiming. You must really think we are a bunch of idiots who can't hold multiple plot lines in our head all at once.
Simple fact of the matter is that both Bill and Hillary have yet to be held accountable for anything they have done. Voting for the war. No accountability. Getting on TV and LYING to us with a straight face, over and over, both about Bosnia and blow-jobs. No accountability.
It's the same thing that the republicans have enjoyed from their supporters. Lie, cheat and steal, yet still get re-elected. This country's voters better wake the hell up and start holding these clowns accountable, all of them, or we are done.
Game over.”
To ask, "Do you think the Lewinsky affair made your mom stronger?" is not a personal attack. Now, if the question was, "Does your mom like cigars too?" that would be a personal attack.
And you guys accuse us of having thin skin.
Simple fact of the matter is the Clinton campaign (and her rabid supports like yourself) come on these boards and cry "victim" while using the tactics they are disclaiming. You must really think we are a bunch of idiots who can't hold multiple plot lines in our head all at once.
Simple fact of the matter is that both Bill and Hillary have yet to be held accountable for anything they have done. Voting for the war. No accountability. Getting on TV and LYING to us with a straight face, over and over, both about Bosnia and blow-jobs. No accountability.
It's the same thing that the republicans have enjoyed from their supporters. Lie, cheat and steal, yet still get re-elected. This country's voters better wake the hell up and start holding these clowns accountable, all of them, or we are done.
Game over.”
newunderground replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 07:36:50
“She's out pimping for her mother, of course she's fair game. I don't know if you noticed, but she's a big girl now. Our little Chelsea has grown up.”
newunderground replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 07:36:50
“She's out pimping for her mother, of course she's fair game. I don't know if you noticed, but she's a big girl now. Our little Chelsea has grown up.”
Not Until the Fat Lady Sings
Commented Apr 01, 2008 at 06:58:22 in Politics
“So this is "change you can believe in": the daughter is "fair game" for meanspirited personal attacks about shameful behavior of her father TEN YEARS AGO. And what is the point of this personal attack? To make the candidate whose mantra is "change you can believe it" look better?
I wish someone would explain to me how your contemptible personal attacks on the daughter who loves and believes in her mother are supposed to inspire me to regard your "change you can believe in" motto as anything other than a despicable, phony front for the same old attack politics of the Republican Party.
I'm waiting.
Thanks.
mp”
I wish someone would explain to me how your contemptible personal attacks on the daughter who loves and believes in her mother are supposed to inspire me to regard your "change you can believe in" motto as anything other than a despicable, phony front for the same old attack politics of the Republican Party.
I'm waiting.
Thanks.
mp”
JasonEverettMiller replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:22:25
“None of these comments rise to the level of personal attack. First, they are talking about what someone else did and why they thought the questions was appropriate.
To ask, "Do you think the Lewinsky affair made your mom stronger?" is not a personal attack. Now, if the question was, "Does your mom like cigars too?" that would be a personal attack.
And you guys accuse us of having thin skin.
Simple fact of the matter is the Clinton campaign (and her rabid supports like yourself) come on these boards and cry "victim" while using the tactics they are disclaiming. You must really think we are a bunch of idiots who can't hold multiple plot lines in our head all at once.
Simple fact of the matter is that both Bill and Hillary have yet to be held accountable for anything they have done. Voting for the war. No accountability. Getting on TV and LYING to us with a straight face, over and over, both about Bosnia and blow-jobs. No accountability.
It's the same thing that the republicans have enjoyed from their supporters. Lie, cheat and steal, yet still get re-elected. This country's voters better wake the hell up and start holding these clowns accountable, all of them, or we are done.
Game over.”
To ask, "Do you think the Lewinsky affair made your mom stronger?" is not a personal attack. Now, if the question was, "Does your mom like cigars too?" that would be a personal attack.
And you guys accuse us of having thin skin.
Simple fact of the matter is the Clinton campaign (and her rabid supports like yourself) come on these boards and cry "victim" while using the tactics they are disclaiming. You must really think we are a bunch of idiots who can't hold multiple plot lines in our head all at once.
Simple fact of the matter is that both Bill and Hillary have yet to be held accountable for anything they have done. Voting for the war. No accountability. Getting on TV and LYING to us with a straight face, over and over, both about Bosnia and blow-jobs. No accountability.
It's the same thing that the republicans have enjoyed from their supporters. Lie, cheat and steal, yet still get re-elected. This country's voters better wake the hell up and start holding these clowns accountable, all of them, or we are done.
Game over.”
JasonEverettMiller replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:22:25
“None of these comments rise to the level of personal attack. First, they are talking about what someone else did and why they thought the questions was appropriate.
To ask, "Do you think the Lewinsky affair made your mom stronger?" is not a personal attack. Now, if the question was, "Does your mom like cigars too?" that would be a personal attack.
And you guys accuse us of having thin skin.
Simple fact of the matter is the Clinton campaign (and her rabid supports like yourself) come on these boards and cry "victim" while using the tactics they are disclaiming. You must really think we are a bunch of idiots who can't hold multiple plot lines in our head all at once.
Simple fact of the matter is that both Bill and Hillary have yet to be held accountable for anything they have done. Voting for the war. No accountability. Getting on TV and LYING to us with a straight face, over and over, both about Bosnia and blow-jobs. No accountability.
It's the same thing that the republicans have enjoyed from their supporters. Lie, cheat and steal, yet still get re-elected. This country's voters better wake the hell up and start holding these clowns accountable, all of them, or we are done.
Game over.”
To ask, "Do you think the Lewinsky affair made your mom stronger?" is not a personal attack. Now, if the question was, "Does your mom like cigars too?" that would be a personal attack.
And you guys accuse us of having thin skin.
Simple fact of the matter is the Clinton campaign (and her rabid supports like yourself) come on these boards and cry "victim" while using the tactics they are disclaiming. You must really think we are a bunch of idiots who can't hold multiple plot lines in our head all at once.
Simple fact of the matter is that both Bill and Hillary have yet to be held accountable for anything they have done. Voting for the war. No accountability. Getting on TV and LYING to us with a straight face, over and over, both about Bosnia and blow-jobs. No accountability.
It's the same thing that the republicans have enjoyed from their supporters. Lie, cheat and steal, yet still get re-elected. This country's voters better wake the hell up and start holding these clowns accountable, all of them, or we are done.
Game over.”
newunderground replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 07:36:50
“She's out pimping for her mother, of course she's fair game. I don't know if you noticed, but she's a big girl now. Our little Chelsea has grown up.”
newunderground replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 07:36:50
“She's out pimping for her mother, of course she's fair game. I don't know if you noticed, but she's a big girl now. Our little Chelsea has grown up.”
Not Until the Fat Lady Sings
Commented Apr 01, 2008 at 06:50:46 in Politics
“That he is for universal healthcare, when in fact, his plan will barely cut the uninsured by 50%.
That he wants to get us out of Iraq, but plans to keep fighting the war with private security companies like Blackwater.
That he is a true Christian, when buying a $1.6 million mansion meant more to him than meeting his obligations as a Christian.
That the Clinton campaign played "the race card," when, in fact, it was his own campaign that played the race card first and often.
That he was "not there" and disavowed Reverend Wright's "inflammatory" statements from the pulpit.
The fact that you don't know about any of these bloopers is not surprising. Membership in the Obama camp is predicated on ignoring issues. Once you start looking at issues and his position on issues, you realize that he is just another DLC centercrat -- only one whose public plans will do even less than Clinton's to solve our problems.
Thanks.
mp”
That he wants to get us out of Iraq, but plans to keep fighting the war with private security companies like Blackwater.
That he is a true Christian, when buying a $1.6 million mansion meant more to him than meeting his obligations as a Christian.
That the Clinton campaign played "the race card," when, in fact, it was his own campaign that played the race card first and often.
That he was "not there" and disavowed Reverend Wright's "inflammatory" statements from the pulpit.
The fact that you don't know about any of these bloopers is not surprising. Membership in the Obama camp is predicated on ignoring issues. Once you start looking at issues and his position on issues, you realize that he is just another DLC centercrat -- only one whose public plans will do even less than Clinton's to solve our problems.
Thanks.
mp”
Fabienne replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 13:17:06
“I guess, if Obama's "mansion" in Chicago ($1.6 million in Chicago doesn't get you what it used to), which is mostly what he's worth, means he is not a Christian, then neither are the Clintons, since they are worth $34 or $35 million dollars, which means they are 21% less Christian than Obama. It is Bill Clinton who first brought up race in the election and I think you would be hard put to prove otherwise. Obama never said he never heard Reverend Wright make comments that criticized America; he said he was not in the church during the few minutes of soundbites that were played repeatedly on television; and it has since been proven that he was in Miami when that particular sermon was given. His healthcare plan cuts the uninsured by far more than 50%, but he knows that it is impossible to get universal healthcare as long as the insurance companies are still involved. He has said, were he starting from scratch, he would want a single-payer plan, but in today's climate that is impossible.”
Fabienne replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 13:17:06
“I guess, if Obama's "mansion" in Chicago ($1.6 million in Chicago doesn't get you what it used to), which is mostly what he's worth, means he is not a Christian, then neither are the Clintons, since they are worth $34 or $35 million dollars, which means they are 21% less Christian than Obama. It is Bill Clinton who first brought up race in the election and I think you would be hard put to prove otherwise. Obama never said he never heard Reverend Wright make comments that criticized America; he said he was not in the church during the few minutes of soundbites that were played repeatedly on television; and it has since been proven that he was in Miami when that particular sermon was given. His healthcare plan cuts the uninsured by far more than 50%, but he knows that it is impossible to get universal healthcare as long as the insurance companies are still involved. He has said, were he starting from scratch, he would want a single-payer plan, but in today's climate that is impossible.”
cheforacle replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 10:57:23
“naugiedoggie, this is the first time I've come back to this comment since last night, i wish to respond to each of your "claimed lies';
- he has repeatedly says he believes the best way to achieve universal health care in today's environment is to make it affordable for everyone. Some have said that would leave 15 million individuals out but he disputes that. Others claim it would get us closer to 'universal care" than a mandate. You can dispute whether his is universal but its not a lie; its a debatable topic.
- as to private companies he said he wouldn't rule it out. i suspect he wants to see what the environment is in 01/09. Being opposed to the war does not mean dismantling the whole thing on day 1 as that is reckless
- anyone who claims they have a monopoly on what it means to be a christian is full of baloney
- he never said they played the race card; he said she made unfortunate remarks about MLK and LBJ
- he wasn't there when Wright made the remarks on the video that has been replayed and he admits to hearing and disagreeing with other sermons of Wright
As to your last comment I know his positions very well. i actually think HRC may be right on health care but his recitation of why iraq was a dumb war to commence showed real leadership at a time where it was absent.”
- he has repeatedly says he believes the best way to achieve universal health care in today's environment is to make it affordable for everyone. Some have said that would leave 15 million individuals out but he disputes that. Others claim it would get us closer to 'universal care" than a mandate. You can dispute whether his is universal but its not a lie; its a debatable topic.
- as to private companies he said he wouldn't rule it out. i suspect he wants to see what the environment is in 01/09. Being opposed to the war does not mean dismantling the whole thing on day 1 as that is reckless
- anyone who claims they have a monopoly on what it means to be a christian is full of baloney
- he never said they played the race card; he said she made unfortunate remarks about MLK and LBJ
- he wasn't there when Wright made the remarks on the video that has been replayed and he admits to hearing and disagreeing with other sermons of Wright
As to your last comment I know his positions very well. i actually think HRC may be right on health care but his recitation of why iraq was a dumb war to commence showed real leadership at a time where it was absent.”
cheforacle replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 10:57:23
“naugiedoggie, this is the first time I've come back to this comment since last night, i wish to respond to each of your "claimed lies';
- he has repeatedly says he believes the best way to achieve universal health care in today's environment is to make it affordable for everyone. Some have said that would leave 15 million individuals out but he disputes that. Others claim it would get us closer to 'universal care" than a mandate. You can dispute whether his is universal but its not a lie; its a debatable topic.
- as to private companies he said he wouldn't rule it out. i suspect he wants to see what the environment is in 01/09. Being opposed to the war does not mean dismantling the whole thing on day 1 as that is reckless
- anyone who claims they have a monopoly on what it means to be a christian is full of baloney
- he never said they played the race card; he said she made unfortunate remarks about MLK and LBJ
- he wasn't there when Wright made the remarks on the video that has been replayed and he admits to hearing and disagreeing with other sermons of Wright
As to your last comment I know his positions very well. i actually think HRC may be right on health care but his recitation of why iraq was a dumb war to commence showed real leadership at a time where it was absent.”
- he has repeatedly says he believes the best way to achieve universal health care in today's environment is to make it affordable for everyone. Some have said that would leave 15 million individuals out but he disputes that. Others claim it would get us closer to 'universal care" than a mandate. You can dispute whether his is universal but its not a lie; its a debatable topic.
- as to private companies he said he wouldn't rule it out. i suspect he wants to see what the environment is in 01/09. Being opposed to the war does not mean dismantling the whole thing on day 1 as that is reckless
- anyone who claims they have a monopoly on what it means to be a christian is full of baloney
- he never said they played the race card; he said she made unfortunate remarks about MLK and LBJ
- he wasn't there when Wright made the remarks on the video that has been replayed and he admits to hearing and disagreeing with other sermons of Wright
As to your last comment I know his positions very well. i actually think HRC may be right on health care but his recitation of why iraq was a dumb war to commence showed real leadership at a time where it was absent.”
JasonEverettMiller replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:40:32
“This is for the benefit of other people who might be fooled by your lies. Nothing I can say will open your eyes.
1. His plan will make it through Congress. Insurance mandates are a gold mine for insurance companies. She doesn't outline how poor people, who pay no taxes, can make use of a tax credit to pay for coverage they can't afford. The plan is vaporware and a non-starter in Congress.
2. He will not fight wars with private contractors. He has stated multiple times that we wants to change the entire mindset that sent us to war in the first place.
3. His story has been one of sacrifice and Christian ethics. Using his Harvard law degree and natural leadership ability, Barack has served this country's most vulnerable citizens for more than 20 years.
4. The "race card" has been played mostly by the media. Barack has actually defended the Clintons on multiple occasions against the charges of racism based on their statements.
5. He admitted to being there when comments were made that SOME could find objectionable. He was not there for the snippet played ad naseum in the media.
The fact that you lie and disregard facts is not surprising. Membership in the Clinton camp is predicated on blind and abject loyalty to the end. Kind of like the Bush White House.
The Clintons STARTED the DLC and have done more to move this country to the right than anyone since Ronald Reagan.”
1. His plan will make it through Congress. Insurance mandates are a gold mine for insurance companies. She doesn't outline how poor people, who pay no taxes, can make use of a tax credit to pay for coverage they can't afford. The plan is vaporware and a non-starter in Congress.
2. He will not fight wars with private contractors. He has stated multiple times that we wants to change the entire mindset that sent us to war in the first place.
3. His story has been one of sacrifice and Christian ethics. Using his Harvard law degree and natural leadership ability, Barack has served this country's most vulnerable citizens for more than 20 years.
4. The "race card" has been played mostly by the media. Barack has actually defended the Clintons on multiple occasions against the charges of racism based on their statements.
5. He admitted to being there when comments were made that SOME could find objectionable. He was not there for the snippet played ad naseum in the media.
The fact that you lie and disregard facts is not surprising. Membership in the Clinton camp is predicated on blind and abject loyalty to the end. Kind of like the Bush White House.
The Clintons STARTED the DLC and have done more to move this country to the right than anyone since Ronald Reagan.”
JasonEverettMiller replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:40:32
“This is for the benefit of other people who might be fooled by your lies. Nothing I can say will open your eyes.
1. His plan will make it through Congress. Insurance mandates are a gold mine for insurance companies. She doesn't outline how poor people, who pay no taxes, can make use of a tax credit to pay for coverage they can't afford. The plan is vaporware and a non-starter in Congress.
2. He will not fight wars with private contractors. He has stated multiple times that we wants to change the entire mindset that sent us to war in the first place.
3. His story has been one of sacrifice and Christian ethics. Using his Harvard law degree and natural leadership ability, Barack has served this country's most vulnerable citizens for more than 20 years.
4. The "race card" has been played mostly by the media. Barack has actually defended the Clintons on multiple occasions against the charges of racism based on their statements.
5. He admitted to being there when comments were made that SOME could find objectionable. He was not there for the snippet played ad naseum in the media.
The fact that you lie and disregard facts is not surprising. Membership in the Clinton camp is predicated on blind and abject loyalty to the end. Kind of like the Bush White House.
The Clintons STARTED the DLC and have done more to move this country to the right than anyone since Ronald Reagan.”
1. His plan will make it through Congress. Insurance mandates are a gold mine for insurance companies. She doesn't outline how poor people, who pay no taxes, can make use of a tax credit to pay for coverage they can't afford. The plan is vaporware and a non-starter in Congress.
2. He will not fight wars with private contractors. He has stated multiple times that we wants to change the entire mindset that sent us to war in the first place.
3. His story has been one of sacrifice and Christian ethics. Using his Harvard law degree and natural leadership ability, Barack has served this country's most vulnerable citizens for more than 20 years.
4. The "race card" has been played mostly by the media. Barack has actually defended the Clintons on multiple occasions against the charges of racism based on their statements.
5. He admitted to being there when comments were made that SOME could find objectionable. He was not there for the snippet played ad naseum in the media.
The fact that you lie and disregard facts is not surprising. Membership in the Clinton camp is predicated on blind and abject loyalty to the end. Kind of like the Bush White House.
The Clintons STARTED the DLC and have done more to move this country to the right than anyone since Ronald Reagan.”
wolverinesm replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:33:10
“Any chance you could provide facts to support any of your statements? I see the statements but not one supporting fact. In fact, with the exception of your statement about the "the race card" they are all demonstrably false. The only reason I single out "the race card" is because I would need you to provide your definition of "the race card".”
wolverinesm replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:33:10
“Any chance you could provide facts to support any of your statements? I see the statements but not one supporting fact. In fact, with the exception of your statement about the "the race card" they are all demonstrably false. The only reason I single out "the race card" is because I would need you to provide your definition of "the race card".”
Not Until the Fat Lady Sings
Commented Apr 01, 2008 at 06:50:46 in Politics
“That he is for universal healthcare, when in fact, his plan will barely cut the uninsured by 50%.
That he wants to get us out of Iraq, but plans to keep fighting the war with private security companies like Blackwater.
That he is a true Christian, when buying a $1.6 million mansion meant more to him than meeting his obligations as a Christian.
That the Clinton campaign played "the race card," when, in fact, it was his own campaign that played the race card first and often.
That he was "not there" and disavowed Reverend Wright's "inflammatory" statements from the pulpit.
The fact that you don't know about any of these bloopers is not surprising. Membership in the Obama camp is predicated on ignoring issues. Once you start looking at issues and his position on issues, you realize that he is just another DLC centercrat -- only one whose public plans will do even less than Clinton's to solve our problems.
Thanks.
mp”
That he wants to get us out of Iraq, but plans to keep fighting the war with private security companies like Blackwater.
That he is a true Christian, when buying a $1.6 million mansion meant more to him than meeting his obligations as a Christian.
That the Clinton campaign played "the race card," when, in fact, it was his own campaign that played the race card first and often.
That he was "not there" and disavowed Reverend Wright's "inflammatory" statements from the pulpit.
The fact that you don't know about any of these bloopers is not surprising. Membership in the Obama camp is predicated on ignoring issues. Once you start looking at issues and his position on issues, you realize that he is just another DLC centercrat -- only one whose public plans will do even less than Clinton's to solve our problems.
Thanks.
mp”
Fabienne replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 13:17:06
“I guess, if Obama's "mansion" in Chicago ($1.6 million in Chicago doesn't get you what it used to), which is mostly what he's worth, means he is not a Christian, then neither are the Clintons, since they are worth $34 or $35 million dollars, which means they are 21% less Christian than Obama. It is Bill Clinton who first brought up race in the election and I think you would be hard put to prove otherwise. Obama never said he never heard Reverend Wright make comments that criticized America; he said he was not in the church during the few minutes of soundbites that were played repeatedly on television; and it has since been proven that he was in Miami when that particular sermon was given. His healthcare plan cuts the uninsured by far more than 50%, but he knows that it is impossible to get universal healthcare as long as the insurance companies are still involved. He has said, were he starting from scratch, he would want a single-payer plan, but in today's climate that is impossible.”
Fabienne replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 13:17:06
“I guess, if Obama's "mansion" in Chicago ($1.6 million in Chicago doesn't get you what it used to), which is mostly what he's worth, means he is not a Christian, then neither are the Clintons, since they are worth $34 or $35 million dollars, which means they are 21% less Christian than Obama. It is Bill Clinton who first brought up race in the election and I think you would be hard put to prove otherwise. Obama never said he never heard Reverend Wright make comments that criticized America; he said he was not in the church during the few minutes of soundbites that were played repeatedly on television; and it has since been proven that he was in Miami when that particular sermon was given. His healthcare plan cuts the uninsured by far more than 50%, but he knows that it is impossible to get universal healthcare as long as the insurance companies are still involved. He has said, were he starting from scratch, he would want a single-payer plan, but in today's climate that is impossible.”
cheforacle replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 10:57:23
“naugiedoggie, this is the first time I've come back to this comment since last night, i wish to respond to each of your "claimed lies';
- he has repeatedly says he believes the best way to achieve universal health care in today's environment is to make it affordable for everyone. Some have said that would leave 15 million individuals out but he disputes that. Others claim it would get us closer to 'universal care" than a mandate. You can dispute whether his is universal but its not a lie; its a debatable topic.
- as to private companies he said he wouldn't rule it out. i suspect he wants to see what the environment is in 01/09. Being opposed to the war does not mean dismantling the whole thing on day 1 as that is reckless
- anyone who claims they have a monopoly on what it means to be a christian is full of baloney
- he never said they played the race card; he said she made unfortunate remarks about MLK and LBJ
- he wasn't there when Wright made the remarks on the video that has been replayed and he admits to hearing and disagreeing with other sermons of Wright
As to your last comment I know his positions very well. i actually think HRC may be right on health care but his recitation of why iraq was a dumb war to commence showed real leadership at a time where it was absent.”
- he has repeatedly says he believes the best way to achieve universal health care in today's environment is to make it affordable for everyone. Some have said that would leave 15 million individuals out but he disputes that. Others claim it would get us closer to 'universal care" than a mandate. You can dispute whether his is universal but its not a lie; its a debatable topic.
- as to private companies he said he wouldn't rule it out. i suspect he wants to see what the environment is in 01/09. Being opposed to the war does not mean dismantling the whole thing on day 1 as that is reckless
- anyone who claims they have a monopoly on what it means to be a christian is full of baloney
- he never said they played the race card; he said she made unfortunate remarks about MLK and LBJ
- he wasn't there when Wright made the remarks on the video that has been replayed and he admits to hearing and disagreeing with other sermons of Wright
As to your last comment I know his positions very well. i actually think HRC may be right on health care but his recitation of why iraq was a dumb war to commence showed real leadership at a time where it was absent.”
cheforacle replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 10:57:23
“naugiedoggie, this is the first time I've come back to this comment since last night, i wish to respond to each of your "claimed lies';
- he has repeatedly says he believes the best way to achieve universal health care in today's environment is to make it affordable for everyone. Some have said that would leave 15 million individuals out but he disputes that. Others claim it would get us closer to 'universal care" than a mandate. You can dispute whether his is universal but its not a lie; its a debatable topic.
- as to private companies he said he wouldn't rule it out. i suspect he wants to see what the environment is in 01/09. Being opposed to the war does not mean dismantling the whole thing on day 1 as that is reckless
- anyone who claims they have a monopoly on what it means to be a christian is full of baloney
- he never said they played the race card; he said she made unfortunate remarks about MLK and LBJ
- he wasn't there when Wright made the remarks on the video that has been replayed and he admits to hearing and disagreeing with other sermons of Wright
As to your last comment I know his positions very well. i actually think HRC may be right on health care but his recitation of why iraq was a dumb war to commence showed real leadership at a time where it was absent.”
- he has repeatedly says he believes the best way to achieve universal health care in today's environment is to make it affordable for everyone. Some have said that would leave 15 million individuals out but he disputes that. Others claim it would get us closer to 'universal care" than a mandate. You can dispute whether his is universal but its not a lie; its a debatable topic.
- as to private companies he said he wouldn't rule it out. i suspect he wants to see what the environment is in 01/09. Being opposed to the war does not mean dismantling the whole thing on day 1 as that is reckless
- anyone who claims they have a monopoly on what it means to be a christian is full of baloney
- he never said they played the race card; he said she made unfortunate remarks about MLK and LBJ
- he wasn't there when Wright made the remarks on the video that has been replayed and he admits to hearing and disagreeing with other sermons of Wright
As to your last comment I know his positions very well. i actually think HRC may be right on health care but his recitation of why iraq was a dumb war to commence showed real leadership at a time where it was absent.”
JasonEverettMiller replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:40:32
“This is for the benefit of other people who might be fooled by your lies. Nothing I can say will open your eyes.
1. His plan will make it through Congress. Insurance mandates are a gold mine for insurance companies. She doesn't outline how poor people, who pay no taxes, can make use of a tax credit to pay for coverage they can't afford. The plan is vaporware and a non-starter in Congress.
2. He will not fight wars with private contractors. He has stated multiple times that we wants to change the entire mindset that sent us to war in the first place.
3. His story has been one of sacrifice and Christian ethics. Using his Harvard law degree and natural leadership ability, Barack has served this country's most vulnerable citizens for more than 20 years.
4. The "race card" has been played mostly by the media. Barack has actually defended the Clintons on multiple occasions against the charges of racism based on their statements.
5. He admitted to being there when comments were made that SOME could find objectionable. He was not there for the snippet played ad naseum in the media.
The fact that you lie and disregard facts is not surprising. Membership in the Clinton camp is predicated on blind and abject loyalty to the end. Kind of like the Bush White House.
The Clintons STARTED the DLC and have done more to move this country to the right than anyone since Ronald Reagan.”
1. His plan will make it through Congress. Insurance mandates are a gold mine for insurance companies. She doesn't outline how poor people, who pay no taxes, can make use of a tax credit to pay for coverage they can't afford. The plan is vaporware and a non-starter in Congress.
2. He will not fight wars with private contractors. He has stated multiple times that we wants to change the entire mindset that sent us to war in the first place.
3. His story has been one of sacrifice and Christian ethics. Using his Harvard law degree and natural leadership ability, Barack has served this country's most vulnerable citizens for more than 20 years.
4. The "race card" has been played mostly by the media. Barack has actually defended the Clintons on multiple occasions against the charges of racism based on their statements.
5. He admitted to being there when comments were made that SOME could find objectionable. He was not there for the snippet played ad naseum in the media.
The fact that you lie and disregard facts is not surprising. Membership in the Clinton camp is predicated on blind and abject loyalty to the end. Kind of like the Bush White House.
The Clintons STARTED the DLC and have done more to move this country to the right than anyone since Ronald Reagan.”
JasonEverettMiller replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:40:32
“This is for the benefit of other people who might be fooled by your lies. Nothing I can say will open your eyes.
1. His plan will make it through Congress. Insurance mandates are a gold mine for insurance companies. She doesn't outline how poor people, who pay no taxes, can make use of a tax credit to pay for coverage they can't afford. The plan is vaporware and a non-starter in Congress.
2. He will not fight wars with private contractors. He has stated multiple times that we wants to change the entire mindset that sent us to war in the first place.
3. His story has been one of sacrifice and Christian ethics. Using his Harvard law degree and natural leadership ability, Barack has served this country's most vulnerable citizens for more than 20 years.
4. The "race card" has been played mostly by the media. Barack has actually defended the Clintons on multiple occasions against the charges of racism based on their statements.
5. He admitted to being there when comments were made that SOME could find objectionable. He was not there for the snippet played ad naseum in the media.
The fact that you lie and disregard facts is not surprising. Membership in the Clinton camp is predicated on blind and abject loyalty to the end. Kind of like the Bush White House.
The Clintons STARTED the DLC and have done more to move this country to the right than anyone since Ronald Reagan.”
1. His plan will make it through Congress. Insurance mandates are a gold mine for insurance companies. She doesn't outline how poor people, who pay no taxes, can make use of a tax credit to pay for coverage they can't afford. The plan is vaporware and a non-starter in Congress.
2. He will not fight wars with private contractors. He has stated multiple times that we wants to change the entire mindset that sent us to war in the first place.
3. His story has been one of sacrifice and Christian ethics. Using his Harvard law degree and natural leadership ability, Barack has served this country's most vulnerable citizens for more than 20 years.
4. The "race card" has been played mostly by the media. Barack has actually defended the Clintons on multiple occasions against the charges of racism based on their statements.
5. He admitted to being there when comments were made that SOME could find objectionable. He was not there for the snippet played ad naseum in the media.
The fact that you lie and disregard facts is not surprising. Membership in the Clinton camp is predicated on blind and abject loyalty to the end. Kind of like the Bush White House.
The Clintons STARTED the DLC and have done more to move this country to the right than anyone since Ronald Reagan.”
wolverinesm replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:33:10
“Any chance you could provide facts to support any of your statements? I see the statements but not one supporting fact. In fact, with the exception of your statement about the "the race card" they are all demonstrably false. The only reason I single out "the race card" is because I would need you to provide your definition of "the race card".”
wolverinesm replied on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:33:10
“Any chance you could provide facts to support any of your statements? I see the statements but not one supporting fact. In fact, with the exception of your statement about the "the race card" they are all demonstrably false. The only reason I single out "the race card" is because I would need you to provide your definition of "the race card".”
Hooked on Hillary
Commented Mar 31, 2008 at 09:34:07 in Politics
“Is there any sign that Obama-bots will support Hillary Clinton if she wins the nomination? NO, in fact, just the opposite is true. They have repeatedly, publicly declared that under no circumstances will they vote for Clinton. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES. That's pretty decisive. So, Obama-bots would rather see McCain in the White House than Clinton. They'll either vote for him or they won't vote, thereby throwing the election to him.
Hmm ... or are they all lying?
Thanks.
mp”
Hmm ... or are they all lying?
Thanks.
mp”
dawlishgal replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 10:48:52
“I don't know what planet you are living on, but here on earth it is the CLINTONS who are actively campaigning for McCain as the default option if she doesn't get the nomination. Your putting bogus words into the mouths of Obama supporters isn't going to change that basic fact.”
dawlishgal replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 10:48:52
“I don't know what planet you are living on, but here on earth it is the CLINTONS who are actively campaigning for McCain as the default option if she doesn't get the nomination. Your putting bogus words into the mouths of Obama supporters isn't going to change that basic fact.”
Hooked on Hillary
Commented Mar 31, 2008 at 09:34:07 in Politics
“Is there any sign that Obama-bots will support Hillary Clinton if she wins the nomination? NO, in fact, just the opposite is true. They have repeatedly, publicly declared that under no circumstances will they vote for Clinton. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES. That's pretty decisive. So, Obama-bots would rather see McCain in the White House than Clinton. They'll either vote for him or they won't vote, thereby throwing the election to him.
Hmm ... or are they all lying?
Thanks.
mp”
Hmm ... or are they all lying?
Thanks.
mp”
dawlishgal replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 10:48:52
“I don't know what planet you are living on, but here on earth it is the CLINTONS who are actively campaigning for McCain as the default option if she doesn't get the nomination. Your putting bogus words into the mouths of Obama supporters isn't going to change that basic fact.”
dawlishgal replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 10:48:52
“I don't know what planet you are living on, but here on earth it is the CLINTONS who are actively campaigning for McCain as the default option if she doesn't get the nomination. Your putting bogus words into the mouths of Obama supporters isn't going to change that basic fact.”
Hooked on Hillary
Commented Mar 31, 2008 at 09:25:49 in Politics
“On the grounds that Obama is the weakest of the candidates on issues. He is basically a weathervane -- "whichever way the wind blows, that's alright with me." He has no legislative record to run on and no positions that he hasn't backtracked on ("I'm against healthcare mandates unless I'm for them"; "I'm against the war in Iraq but I'm for fighting it with private security companies"). He's an ideological zero, running to the right of Clinton on every major issue.
If it were possible for you to get your wish, and force Clinton to "retire" from the campaign, it would prove that Obama is incapable of beating her in a standup fight. If he can't win the nomination outright, why would anyone think he was the best candidate in the election campaign in the Fall? The voters outside the Democratic Party corridors are going to be saying, "Hell, he couldn't even win the nomination, they had to use backroom politics to force out the other candidates in order to give it to him."
So much for the candidate for "change you can believe in."
Thanks.
mp”
If it were possible for you to get your wish, and force Clinton to "retire" from the campaign, it would prove that Obama is incapable of beating her in a standup fight. If he can't win the nomination outright, why would anyone think he was the best candidate in the election campaign in the Fall? The voters outside the Democratic Party corridors are going to be saying, "Hell, he couldn't even win the nomination, they had to use backroom politics to force out the other candidates in order to give it to him."
So much for the candidate for "change you can believe in."
Thanks.
mp”
dawlishgal replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 13:54:03
“You know, politcians ignoring the clear wishes of voters has been going on for so long now, that I--for one-- would almost welcome a "weathervane" candidate. ...one who actually tried to do what ordinary people want done. Hillary has spent so much time with her corporate pals from her DLC and in triangulating as a way of pretending that she gives a damn about anybody else, that she can be counted on to do corporate bidding when the chips are down. Note please, her support for NAFTA (the very support she is pretending to not have given) and her grabbing the big bucks from the very healthcare corporations that killed our chances of having decent healthcare for going on a decade and a half now. She blew it, intentionally or otherwise, and now she takes their money. And, even if the "weathervane" told her not to, she would still take their money. And you consider this a bleeping VIRTUE?”
dawlishgal replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 13:54:03
“You know, politcians ignoring the clear wishes of voters has been going on for so long now, that I--for one-- would almost welcome a "weathervane" candidate. ...one who actually tried to do what ordinary people want done. Hillary has spent so much time with her corporate pals from her DLC and in triangulating as a way of pretending that she gives a damn about anybody else, that she can be counted on to do corporate bidding when the chips are down. Note please, her support for NAFTA (the very support she is pretending to not have given) and her grabbing the big bucks from the very healthcare corporations that killed our chances of having decent healthcare for going on a decade and a half now. She blew it, intentionally or otherwise, and now she takes their money. And, even if the "weathervane" told her not to, she would still take their money. And you consider this a bleeping VIRTUE?”
havbrush replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:51:31
“You should do your research on his legislative record before mouthing Clinton campaign talking points. In his time in the senate he has introduced more bills than she has and has more fellow senate sponsors on those bills. Many of the bills she authored have no senate sponsors. It's as if she just introduced bills to have them on record to show that she was doing something.”
havbrush replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:51:31
“You should do your research on his legislative record before mouthing Clinton campaign talking points. In his time in the senate he has introduced more bills than she has and has more fellow senate sponsors on those bills. Many of the bills she authored have no senate sponsors. It's as if she just introduced bills to have them on record to show that she was doing something.”
DasBoot replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:49:03
“sorry, but I didn't see a single persuasive argument in your post. You apparently did not listen to or read any of Obama's substantial policy proposals. He never said he was for mandates, except for children, which makes imminent sense.
Also, it is in the nature of the Democratic party's proportional voting system that a close race will drag out. But the fact is that Obama is AHEAD. He WON Texas (getting more pledge delegates out of it, which is the only measure that counts), even though you won't hear that in the MSM. So it is Hillary who is betting on a back room deal.”
Also, it is in the nature of the Democratic party's proportional voting system that a close race will drag out. But the fact is that Obama is AHEAD. He WON Texas (getting more pledge delegates out of it, which is the only measure that counts), even though you won't hear that in the MSM. So it is Hillary who is betting on a back room deal.”
DasBoot replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:49:03
“sorry, but I didn't see a single persuasive argument in your post. You apparently did not listen to or read any of Obama's substantial policy proposals. He never said he was for mandates, except for children, which makes imminent sense.
Also, it is in the nature of the Democratic party's proportional voting system that a close race will drag out. But the fact is that Obama is AHEAD. He WON Texas (getting more pledge delegates out of it, which is the only measure that counts), even though you won't hear that in the MSM. So it is Hillary who is betting on a back room deal.”
Also, it is in the nature of the Democratic party's proportional voting system that a close race will drag out. But the fact is that Obama is AHEAD. He WON Texas (getting more pledge delegates out of it, which is the only measure that counts), even though you won't hear that in the MSM. So it is Hillary who is betting on a back room deal.”
Hooked on Hillary
Commented Mar 31, 2008 at 09:25:49 in Politics
“On the grounds that Obama is the weakest of the candidates on issues. He is basically a weathervane -- "whichever way the wind blows, that's alright with me." He has no legislative record to run on and no positions that he hasn't backtracked on ("I'm against healthcare mandates unless I'm for them"; "I'm against the war in Iraq but I'm for fighting it with private security companies"). He's an ideological zero, running to the right of Clinton on every major issue.
If it were possible for you to get your wish, and force Clinton to "retire" from the campaign, it would prove that Obama is incapable of beating her in a standup fight. If he can't win the nomination outright, why would anyone think he was the best candidate in the election campaign in the Fall? The voters outside the Democratic Party corridors are going to be saying, "Hell, he couldn't even win the nomination, they had to use backroom politics to force out the other candidates in order to give it to him."
So much for the candidate for "change you can believe in."
Thanks.
mp”
If it were possible for you to get your wish, and force Clinton to "retire" from the campaign, it would prove that Obama is incapable of beating her in a standup fight. If he can't win the nomination outright, why would anyone think he was the best candidate in the election campaign in the Fall? The voters outside the Democratic Party corridors are going to be saying, "Hell, he couldn't even win the nomination, they had to use backroom politics to force out the other candidates in order to give it to him."
So much for the candidate for "change you can believe in."
Thanks.
mp”
dawlishgal replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 13:54:03
“You know, politcians ignoring the clear wishes of voters has been going on for so long now, that I--for one-- would almost welcome a "weathervane" candidate. ...one who actually tried to do what ordinary people want done. Hillary has spent so much time with her corporate pals from her DLC and in triangulating as a way of pretending that she gives a damn about anybody else, that she can be counted on to do corporate bidding when the chips are down. Note please, her support for NAFTA (the very support she is pretending to not have given) and her grabbing the big bucks from the very healthcare corporations that killed our chances of having decent healthcare for going on a decade and a half now. She blew it, intentionally or otherwise, and now she takes their money. And, even if the "weathervane" told her not to, she would still take their money. And you consider this a bleeping VIRTUE?”
dawlishgal replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 13:54:03
“You know, politcians ignoring the clear wishes of voters has been going on for so long now, that I--for one-- would almost welcome a "weathervane" candidate. ...one who actually tried to do what ordinary people want done. Hillary has spent so much time with her corporate pals from her DLC and in triangulating as a way of pretending that she gives a damn about anybody else, that she can be counted on to do corporate bidding when the chips are down. Note please, her support for NAFTA (the very support she is pretending to not have given) and her grabbing the big bucks from the very healthcare corporations that killed our chances of having decent healthcare for going on a decade and a half now. She blew it, intentionally or otherwise, and now she takes their money. And, even if the "weathervane" told her not to, she would still take their money. And you consider this a bleeping VIRTUE?”
havbrush replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:51:31
“You should do your research on his legislative record before mouthing Clinton campaign talking points. In his time in the senate he has introduced more bills than she has and has more fellow senate sponsors on those bills. Many of the bills she authored have no senate sponsors. It's as if she just introduced bills to have them on record to show that she was doing something.”
havbrush replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:51:31
“You should do your research on his legislative record before mouthing Clinton campaign talking points. In his time in the senate he has introduced more bills than she has and has more fellow senate sponsors on those bills. Many of the bills she authored have no senate sponsors. It's as if she just introduced bills to have them on record to show that she was doing something.”
DasBoot replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:49:03
“sorry, but I didn't see a single persuasive argument in your post. You apparently did not listen to or read any of Obama's substantial policy proposals. He never said he was for mandates, except for children, which makes imminent sense.
Also, it is in the nature of the Democratic party's proportional voting system that a close race will drag out. But the fact is that Obama is AHEAD. He WON Texas (getting more pledge delegates out of it, which is the only measure that counts), even though you won't hear that in the MSM. So it is Hillary who is betting on a back room deal.”
Also, it is in the nature of the Democratic party's proportional voting system that a close race will drag out. But the fact is that Obama is AHEAD. He WON Texas (getting more pledge delegates out of it, which is the only measure that counts), even though you won't hear that in the MSM. So it is Hillary who is betting on a back room deal.”
DasBoot replied on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:49:03
“sorry, but I didn't see a single persuasive argument in your post. You apparently did not listen to or read any of Obama's substantial policy proposals. He never said he was for mandates, except for children, which makes imminent sense.
Also, it is in the nature of the Democratic party's proportional voting system that a close race will drag out. But the fact is that Obama is AHEAD. He WON Texas (getting more pledge delegates out of it, which is the only measure that counts), even though you won't hear that in the MSM. So it is Hillary who is betting on a back room deal.”
Also, it is in the nature of the Democratic party's proportional voting system that a close race will drag out. But the fact is that Obama is AHEAD. He WON Texas (getting more pledge delegates out of it, which is the only measure that counts), even though you won't hear that in the MSM. So it is Hillary who is betting on a back room deal.”
Top 10 Most Useless Items of Crapola
Commented Mar 25, 2008 at 17:02:40 in Living
“It's a fallacy that manual labor contributes significantly to overall health. Yes, you can burn off calories and that is not a bad thing. But you don't get organized and systematic muscle activity, the way you do with athletics or workouts at the gym. Most people who do manual labor for a significant portion of their lives end up with one or more of a variety of repetitive task injuries, such as back strains, neck and shoulder strains, hamstring or other leg injuries, carpal tunnel and so forth. I know from personal experience. I am just this week doing penance ... again ... for a lower-back strain acquired during my years as a warehouseman.
What usually happens is that your activity is restricted to the particulars of your job -- lumping out a truck means standing in one spot for hours, picking up boxes making a half-turn at the waist, placing the box on a pallet, (sometimes bending down, which puts you most at risk for back injury), then repeat ad nauseam and usually under orders to get it done as soon as possible. Landscaping means lifting and bending under load, and so forth.
These days, I get my exercise at the gym. I stay in shape and minimize the re-aggravation of old injuries.
Thanks.
mp”
What usually happens is that your activity is restricted to the particulars of your job -- lumping out a truck means standing in one spot for hours, picking up boxes making a half-turn at the waist, placing the box on a pallet, (sometimes bending down, which puts you most at risk for back injury), then repeat ad nauseam and usually under orders to get it done as soon as possible. Landscaping means lifting and bending under load, and so forth.
These days, I get my exercise at the gym. I stay in shape and minimize the re-aggravation of old injuries.
Thanks.
mp”
Top 10 Most Useless Items of Crapola
Commented Mar 25, 2008 at 17:02:40 in Living
“It's a fallacy that manual labor contributes significantly to overall health. Yes, you can burn off calories and that is not a bad thing. But you don't get organized and systematic muscle activity, the way you do with athletics or workouts at the gym. Most people who do manual labor for a significant portion of their lives end up with one or more of a variety of repetitive task injuries, such as back strains, neck and shoulder strains, hamstring or other leg injuries, carpal tunnel and so forth. I know from personal experience. I am just this week doing penance ... again ... for a lower-back strain acquired during my years as a warehouseman.
What usually happens is that your activity is restricted to the particulars of your job -- lumping out a truck means standing in one spot for hours, picking up boxes making a half-turn at the waist, placing the box on a pallet, (sometimes bending down, which puts you most at risk for back injury), then repeat ad nauseam and usually under orders to get it done as soon as possible. Landscaping means lifting and bending under load, and so forth.
These days, I get my exercise at the gym. I stay in shape and minimize the re-aggravation of old injuries.
Thanks.
mp”
What usually happens is that your activity is restricted to the particulars of your job -- lumping out a truck means standing in one spot for hours, picking up boxes making a half-turn at the waist, placing the box on a pallet, (sometimes bending down, which puts you most at risk for back injury), then repeat ad nauseam and usually under orders to get it done as soon as possible. Landscaping means lifting and bending under load, and so forth.
These days, I get my exercise at the gym. I stay in shape and minimize the re-aggravation of old injuries.
Thanks.
mp”
Top 10 Most Useless Items of Crapola
Commented Mar 25, 2008 at 16:37:16 in Living
“Are you volunteering? I do get a bit annoyed by being lectured by apartment termites and suburbanites with postage-stamp lawns and 2 12 -foot "trees" in their 1/10th acre lot.
I wouldn't mind raking leaves, either, if I could do it in an hour or two.
Like a lot of other "time savers," something like a leaf blower may worth what you are willing to give up for them. Like 32-40 man-hours of raking, accompanied by days of lower back pain afterward. I have too many things I *like* to do and not enough time in which to do them. There's nothing particularly romantic about 40-50 maples and plane trees dropping their leaves in your yard, year after year. They do look wonderful during the summer, though.
Oh yeah, and next year, for sure, I am buying a snow blower!
http://www .mistyspla ce.org/ima ges/winter _2007.png
Thanks.
mp”
I wouldn't mind raking leaves, either, if I could do it in an hour or two.
Like a lot of other "time savers," something like a leaf blower may worth what you are willing to give up for them. Like 32-40 man-hours of raking, accompanied by days of lower back pain afterward. I have too many things I *like* to do and not enough time in which to do them. There's nothing particularly romantic about 40-50 maples and plane trees dropping their leaves in your yard, year after year. They do look wonderful during the summer, though.
Oh yeah, and next year, for sure, I am buying a snow blower!
http://www
Thanks.
mp”
Top 10 Most Useless Items of Crapola
Commented Mar 25, 2008 at 16:37:16 in Living
“Are you volunteering? I do get a bit annoyed by being lectured by apartment termites and suburbanites with postage-stamp lawns and 2 12 -foot "trees" in their 1/10th acre lot.
I wouldn't mind raking leaves, either, if I could do it in an hour or two.
Like a lot of other "time savers," something like a leaf blower may worth what you are willing to give up for them. Like 32-40 man-hours of raking, accompanied by days of lower back pain afterward. I have too many things I *like* to do and not enough time in which to do them. There's nothing particularly romantic about 40-50 maples and plane trees dropping their leaves in your yard, year after year. They do look wonderful during the summer, though.
Oh yeah, and next year, for sure, I am buying a snow blower!
http://www .mistyspla ce.org/ima ges/winter _2007.png
Thanks.
mp”
I wouldn't mind raking leaves, either, if I could do it in an hour or two.
Like a lot of other "time savers," something like a leaf blower may worth what you are willing to give up for them. Like 32-40 man-hours of raking, accompanied by days of lower back pain afterward. I have too many things I *like* to do and not enough time in which to do them. There's nothing particularly romantic about 40-50 maples and plane trees dropping their leaves in your yard, year after year. They do look wonderful during the summer, though.
Oh yeah, and next year, for sure, I am buying a snow blower!
http://www
Thanks.
mp”


