nyscof's Comments (44)

“The Centers for Disease Control reports that chemicals purposely added to water supplies are newly allowed to be even more contaminated than before to satisfy the growing demand for fluorosilicic acid the chemicals most used for fluoridation.

Lead, arsenic and mercury-laced fluorosilicic acid are added to water supplies in a failed effort to reduce tooth decay. See: http://www.nsf.org/business/water_distribution/pdf/NSF_Fact_Sheet.pdf

According to the CDC, a recent modification to the American Water Works Association Fluoride Standard B703-08 on fluorosilicic acid allows an increase in the color content of largely as a result of iodine content. (See www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/pdf/fall2009_newsletter.doc )

This will effectively increase iodine from 0.44 micrograms per liter to 0.72 mcg/L,

Fluoridation chemicals have never been safety tested in humans or animals. http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/htdocs/Chem_Background/ExSumPDF/Fluorosilicates.pdf.pdf

An easy way to clean up America's waterways overnight is to stop water fluoridation. Modern science shows that ingesting fluoride does not reduce tooth decay but does exposes the nation to fluoride's adverse effects. See http://www.FluorideAction.Net/health

EPA scientists also disagree with management, but are ignored, about the safety and efficacy of fluoridation.

Eleven unions representing 7,000 EPA scientists and health professionals want a fluoridation moratorium until it can be proven safe for everyone.

see: http://www2.fluoridealert.org/Alert/United-States/National/EPA-unions-call-for-moratorium-on-fluoride-in-drinking-water”

“Modern science indicates that ingesting fluoride does not reduce tooth decay. Furthermore, fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth as it was believed to be when fluoridation began.

Over 2,660 professionals urge the US Congress to stop water fluoridation until Congressional hearings are conducted, citing scientific evidence that fluoridation, long promoted to fight tooth decay, is ineffective and has serious health risks. See http://www.fluorideaction.org/statement.august.2007.html.2007.html.

Fluoridation is the addition of unnecessary fluoride chemicals into public water supplies ostensibly to reduce tooth decay in tap water drinkers.

Also, eleven Environmental Protection Agency employee unions representing over 7000 environmental and public health professionals called for a moratorium on drinking water fluoridation programs across the country, and have asked EPA management to recognize fluoride as posing a serious risk of causing cancer in people.

Approximately, 80 US communities rejected fluoridation in 2008 & 2009 because fluoride chemicals' alleged benefits do not outweigh the risks.”

“When free dental clinics pop up both in rural and urban USA, the staggeringly long line of people showing up display oral health similar to that of third world countries.

People in America are dying from the consequences of untreated tooth decay. Our emergency rooms are inundated with people seeking critical dental care at taxpayers expense. This occurs because most dentists refuse to treat Medicaid patients (they prefer treating their drinking water with fluoride instead) And 130 Americans don't have dental insurance. US dental care is incredibly expensive.

There is a solution to America's oral health crisis - Dental Therapists (DTs). But organized dentistry got a seat at the table to create the new healthcare bill which disallows DTs from working in the United States because it will impinge on dentistry's lucrative monopoly.

The American Dental Association with its pockets filled with corporate cash is a major player in DC's healthcare decisions. The ADA is a dentists' union representing their best interests - not yours. Legislators rightfully believe the media won't notice that they are taking "bribes" from dentists to pass legislation to benefit dentists.

Dental Therapists are individuals trained to drill, fill and pull teeth as effectively as dentists and have worked for decades successfully in other first world countries. They work in areas and mouths where dentists refuse to go. The first ones are working very successfully in Alaska. But the ADA has it written into the new healthcare bill that DTs are banned in the US”

“Few people know, and still won't believe after reading this, that fluoride supplements given to children to prevent tooth decay have never been tested as such by the FDA. Fluoride is also an off-label drug. Sodium fluoride was on the market pre-1938 before safety and efficacy testing laws were enacted. However, pre-1938, sodium fluoride was sold only as a rat poison.

Modern science shows that fluoride supplements are ineffective at reducing tooth decay and greatly increase children's risk of discolored teeth. But they are still on the market - probably because fluoride is a drug and backed by hugely influential and rich drug companies.

However, Armour thyroid a natural remedy for hypothyroidism taken safely and effectively by millions of women for decades has been pulled off the market because it lacks the same research that's absent for fluoride. But Armour thyroid is natural and cheap and works but isn't backed by politically influential big pharma. I guess it's too bad for us that our FDA is totally corrupt.”

“It's should be criminal that California's cigarette taxes were given to an agency that squandered tens of millions of dollars promoting, lobbying and then paying for fluoride chemicals to be added to public water supplies. Fluoride chemicals are added ostensibly to reduce tooth decay; but the evidence shows it does not and is harmful to people's health.

The governor needs to make a law to get that money back and feed his constituents. An example of the massive costs of fluoridation come from New York Ctiy (where there are also needlessly hungry people if money wasn't spent to satisfied the politics of organized dentistry)

In 2008, New York City spent approximately $24 million on water fluoridation ($5 million on fluoride chemicals)(1a). In 2010, NYC’s fluoride chemicals will cost $9 million (1b).

Yet cavities are rampant in NY’s fluoridated populations (1c).

1a) http://www.scribd.com/doc/18235930/NYC-Fluoridation-Costs-2008-Feb-2-2009-Letter-Page-1

1b) http://www.council.nyc.gov/html/budget/PDFs/fy_10_exec_budget_dept_enviro_protection.pdf

1c) http://www.freewebs.com/fluoridation/fluoridationfailsnewyork.htm”

“Who put dentists in charge anyway. The American Dental Association is just a union created to protect the best interest of dentists and it has way too much power. Sometimes tthe ADA seems no better than other groups formed to protect corporations such as the American Council on Science and Health. The ADA is heavily funded by corporations that benefit from dentists placing sealants, mercury, fluoride - all scientifically proven to be harmful to health

The millions of dollars derived from corporations gives the ADA the political clout to get laws passed or not passed for the benefit of dentists - not the American public.”

“She's a dentist. That explains a lot. She's been around the mercury and fluoride for way too long. Step away from the dental chemicals Orly and get back to reality.”

“Please tell your legislators to stop adding fluoride chemicals into your public water supplies. Fluoride is not a nutrient, is not required for healthy teeth or necessary to purify the water as some mistakenly believe.

Fluoride has been shown to alter the brain chemistry. Of course, we have no evidence that fluoride is linked to autism; but do you really believe our government would fund such studies since government employees are hired to promote fluoridation (not to doubt it).

The fluoride that's added to public water supplies are silicofluorides which are industrial waste products that are allowed to contain trace amounts of lead, arsenic, mercury and other toxins unfiltered out before it's injected into your drinking water. Even if you all drink, cook and bathe with fluoride-filtered or bottled water, most foods you purchase contain fluoride because they are made in fluoridated areas or because fluoride-containing pesticide residues remain

After 60+ years of fluoridation tooth decay is rising along with fluoride overdose symptoms - dental fluorosis, white spotted, yellow, brown and/or pitted teeth.

Over 2,600 professionals urge the US Congress to stop water fluoridation until Congressional hearings are conducted, citing scientific evidence that fluoridation, long promoted to fight tooth decay, is ineffective and has serious health risks. See http://www.fluorideaction.org/statement.august.2007.html.2007.html

This failed "public health" measure turned into a political boondoggle must stop. Even 11 unions representing 7000 EPA scientists and public health professionals reject fluoridation.

More info: www.FluorideAction.Net”

“You're right. More sugar = More cavities. Actually, the only scientifically-valid predictor of future cavities is current cavities and poverty.

Since fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth, a fluoride-deficient diet does not cause tooth decay. So there's no scientifically valid reason for adding fluoride to water supplies and siphoning off millions of dollars that can be used for other critical services.

The dentist income and fluoridation analogy is made because dentists boast that they are the only profession willing to put themselves out of business by promoting this "free" public health program . They also claim to care so deeply for poor people that they want to "give back" by making governments spend our money fluoridating the water.

However, 80% of dentists refuse Medicaid patients and 130 million Americans don't have dental insurance. So unfilled cavities are a national epidemic and disgrace.

In order to stave off inevitable mandates to treat all Americans, organized dentistry has gone on the offensive by convincing legislators that fluoridation will solve the problem.

But that's false.

We need to train dental therapists in this country to do the work that dentists refuse to do. But organized dentistry is way too powerful and lobbies against this perfect solution because they like their lucrative monopoly - even if Americans must suffer.

Without organized dentistry, there would be no fluoridation.”

“Just an F.Y.I. Modern science proves that ingesting fluoride (such as water fluoridation) is ineffective at reducing tooth decay, harmful to health and a waste of millions of dollars annually.

Children’s cavity rates are similar whether water is fluoridated or not, according to data published in the July 2009 Journal of the American Dental Association by dentist J.V. Kumar of the NY State Health Department .

In 2008, New York City spent approximately $24 million on water fluoridation ($5 million on fluoride chemicals). In 2010, NYC’s fluoride chemicals will cost $9 million .

Fluoride in water at “optimal” levels (0.7 – 1.2 mg/L) is supposed to reduce tooth decay without creating excessive fluorosis (fluoride-discolored and/or damaged teeth). Yet cavities are rampant in NY’s fluoridated populations

More fluoride = more money for dentists?

Dentists' Nominal Net Income for 2000 was $533,000 up from $141,000 in 1982, according to the American Dental Assolciation Survey published in the March 2005 Journal of the American Dental Association. During the same time period, the number of Americans living in fluoridated communites went from 116 million to 172 million.

Adverse health effects of fluoride are here: http://www.FluorideAction.Net/health.”

“It's a shame that fluoridation got mixed up with such political silliness.

Actually, modern science indicates that ingesting fluoride does not reduce tooth decay as it was believed to do when fluoridation began. And studies show that ingesting fluoride has many adverse health effects See http://www.FluorideAction.Net/health

People need to get active and demand their legislators to stop the unnecessary, harmful and costly addition of fluoride chemicals into the water supply.

Fluoridation 101
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof”

“Next water chemical investigated needs to be fluoride. EPA scientists back in the 1990's advised that the fluoride levels allowed in water supplies be lowered to be protective of health. Instead, it was raised to satisfy the American Dental Association and the corporations that benefit from fluoride getting a clean bill of health everywhere and anywhere.

When a whistle blower, William Marcus, revealed that a fluoride study had been tampered with to conceal that fluoride actually caused liver cancer in mice, he was fired, then rehired under the whiste blowers act. But fluoride remained innocent

To protect themselves, EPA scientists have expressed their opinion under the umbrellaw safety of their unions. 11 EPA unions making up 7,000 professionals at EPA Headquarters want fluoridation stopped because it can cause cancer.

The EPA hired the National Research Council to review studies to see if the maximum contaminant level of fluoride allowed in drinking water (4 mg/L) is protective of health. The NRC reported in 2006, that it is not.
EPA continues to ignore this report that they commissioned and even though they are way overdue on their mandated review of fluoride standards.

There's a lot to investigate at the EPA.”

“EPA has also been derelict in their duty to protect us by ignoring their own requested fluoride report released in 2006 by the National Academy of Sciences which indicates that the EPA's maximum contaminant level goal of fluoride in water supplies is too high to be protective of health.

11 EPA Unions, consisting of 7,000 professionals, urge EPA to stop fluoridation because the health risks outweigh any benefits. But EPA management ignores them in favor of what's politically correct.

Retired EPA scientist Robert Carton PhD, whose job was risk assessment of water chemicals, says fluoridation is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American public.

Fluoridation is the unnecessary addition of fluoride chemicals into water supplies in a futile effort to reduce tooth decay in tap water drinkers.

For more info
http://www.FluorideAction.Net”

“Dentists lobby successfully for laws that benefit themselves and the campaign coffers of our legislators. In several states, they instigated laws for mandatory dental check ups for school children; but we already know that 6.5 million children on Medicaid have untreated tooth decay because 80% of dentists refuse Medicaid. This new law squeezes even more money out of people who need dental care the least.

130 million Americans lack dental insurance so a dental health crisis persists Many dentists make three times as much as physicians while working fewer hours and days doing less critical work. Now dentists are lobbying to ban those tooth whitening kiosks - dentists want the tooth whitening monopoly, too, and drain more money from wealthier Americans...

Groups willing to fill the dental void include dental therapists, trained for 2 or 3 years to drill, who drill, fill and pull teeth. DTs have worked successfully in other first world countries. But the rich powerful US dental lobby fights hard to make our legislators reject DTs.

Last year the Louisiana Dental Association actually got a law passed forbidding a Medicaid-accepting dentist from bringing dental care into the schools because the LDA says he was taking business away from local dentists - who don't take Medicaid patients anyway.

The New York Times reported how the NYS Dental Society always gets its way in the NYS legislature.”

“Actually, those naturally fluoridated areas of the US had calcium fluoride in their water supply. The areas also housed the wealthier and healthier citizens. That's why dentists flocked there as they do today - abandoning the least healthy with the greatest need. Instead, throwing some fluoride in their water and saying "what a good boy am I."

When researchers in the early 1900's discovered that fluoride was the tooth-discoloring culprit, they assumed it was also the cavity-preventing hero. Soon, researchers reported that teeth need calcium. They do not need fluoride.

So today people line up when "mission of mercy" dental clinics pop up in their neighborhoods and display teeth that are seen in third world countries. Tooth decay is growing in our most fluoridated generation - toddlers. And fluoride discolored teeth (dental fluorosis) has grown to afflict up to 50% of the school children, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

Modern science shows that ingesting fluoride does not reduce tooth decay. Fluoride does harden the outer enamel by topical means alone.

There is no scientific reason to fluoridate the water or to ingest fluoride either from the water supply, food or supplements

Fluoridation 101
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof”

“Few people know that fluoride supplements also were NOT safety tested by the FDA. They were "grandfathered in" because sodium fluoride was being sold before 1938 when laws were enacted requiring the testing of new drugs. However, the only use for sodium fluoride in 1938 was as a rat poison.

When fluoridation began in the 1940's, dentists assumed that ingested fluoride via a pill would equate the cavity preventing effects they thought fluoridation would deliver.

However, modern science indicates that ingesting fluoride does not reduce tooth decay.

A recent review of studies published in the Journal of the American Dental Associations reports that fluoride supplements deliver no benefits to primary teeth; but put toddlers at increase risk of dental fluorosis - white spotted, yellow, brown and/or pitted teeth.

Fluoridation is ineffective, too See http://www.FluorideNews.blogspot.com”

“Also a problem is that even if every American is covered, will that mean we are guaranteed to be cared for. For example, Medicaid now pays for dental care among low-income Americans. But 80% of dentists refuse to treat medicaid patients because of its low reimbursement. So many people are forced to get dental care in hospital emergency rooms when their dental pain becomes unbearable. This often costs the taxpayers ten times the cost of a simple filling.

In recent years, two children died from the consequences of untreated tooth decay.

And sometimes prevention is a smoke screen - such as water fluoridation which cost the city of New York $24 million in 2008. But to save money, the Mayor is cutting dental clinics as a saving of one tenth of water fluoridation.

Modern science indicates that fluoridation is ineffective at reducing tooth decay, harmful to health and a waste of money. Only politics keeps it alive. I wonder what other boondoggles we pay for because our legislators want to keep special interest groups happy.”

“There is absolutely no evidence linking non-fluoridated bottled water with more tooth decay. When this information first hit the air ways, the American Dental Association had no clue who started this misinformation campaign. Now, all of a sudden, there are many bottlers selling fluoridated bottled water and dentists seem to have jumped on the bandwagon

They should know better because their dental journals are screaming with evidence that American children are fluoride overdosed and it's ruining their teeth and their self esteem

The Centers for Disease Control reports that up to 48% of US school children sport dental fluorosis - white spotted, yellow, brown and/or pitted enamel from ingesting too much fluoride.

As a result the American Dental Association and the CDC both advise that infant formula NOT be mixed with fluoridated water.

No American child is or ever was fluoride deficient as fluoride is not a nutrient nor required for healthy teeth. So consuming a fluoride-free diet or from a fluoride-free water supply does NOT cause tooth decay.

Adverse health effects of ingested fluoride
http://www.FluorideAction.Net/health”

“Don't blame Halliburton for the fluoride. New York City adds fluoride chemicals into the water supply, not to treat the water but in a failed effort to to treat individuals against tooth decay. This cost NYC $24 million in 2008. Scientific evidence indicates that ingesting fluoride does not reduce tooth decay.

After decades of water fluoridation in NYC, tooth decay is rampant in NYC populations studied.

New Yorkers need to band together, petition, lobby, call, email their legislators and visit them, also. Tell them to stop wasting money on fluoridation and endangering your health”

“Science never supported fluoridation

Clever PR and appeal to authority coupled with commercial fluoride advertisements created unquestioning acceptance of fluoride.

Regardless of why fluoridation started, today it's promoted by organized dentistry, whose deep pockets filled with corporate cash from companies profiting from fluoride sales, look very appealing to legislators.

There is a U.S. dental crisis caused by lack of dental care. 80% of dentists refuse Medicaid patients and 130 million Americans lack dental insurance. Two children died in recent years from the consequences of UNtreated tooth decay.

The obvious solution: legislators should mandate dentists to treat more low-income people. But dentists don't like mandates - for themselves anyway. Instead, organized dentistry lobbies heavily and expensively for governments to mandate fluoridation - usually at the state level where they have more influence and where constituents have less power.

Fluoridation gives the illusion dentists care about low income Americans whom they won't actually allow in their dental chairs. All legislators see is the power and money behind the American Dental Association and all its constituent groups.

People need to organize, petition, call, email, write and visit their legislators and show up at city council meetings to get fluoridation stopped. Legislators like money from special interest groups but, without the support of the electorate, they will be out of a job - and they hate that even more.

for more info
Fluoridation 101
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

Fluoride Action Network
http://www.FluorideAction.Net”

“Yet, Bloomberg continues to spend $24 million a year adding unnecessary and harmful fluoride chemicals nto NYC's water supplies in a proven failed method to reduce tooth decay. New Yorkers desperately need dental care. But instead of ticking off organized dentistry and doing the logical thing - halting fluoridation, Bloomberg proposes to cut dental clinics saving only one tenth the cost of water fluoridation.

But there is no political group powerful enough to lobby against the dental clinic cuts. But the rich (with corporate cash) Dental Associations will scream if fluoridation gets cut. Fluoridation gives the illusion that dentistry cares about the low-income population they won't actually allow in their dental chairs. Only 25% of New York State Dentists accept Medicaid patients and millions don't have dental insurance - including most, if not all, of the newly unemployed.

Fluoridation does NOT reduce tooth decay. Evidence:
http://www.freewebs.com/fluoridation/fluoridationfailsnewyork.htm”

“Fluoride, neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth, should definitely be suspected of contributing to the large increase in Autism cases - both alone and synergistically with other chemicals.

"It is not clear that the benefits of
adding fluoride to drinking water outweigh risks of neurodevelopment
or other effects such as dental fluorosis," according to an Institute
for Children's Environmental Health report. (Feb 2008)

Fluoride chemicals are purposely added to 2/3 of U.S. public water supplies
ostensibly to reduce tooth decay but not to treat the water. Fluoride is found in dental
products, supplements and virtually all foods and beverages made with fluoridated water.

"Excessive fluoride ingestion is known to lower thyroid hormone
levels, which is particularly critical for women with subclinical
hypothyroidism; decreased maternal thyroid levels adversely affect
fetal neurodevelopment," reports a prestigious committee of
scientists and health professionals in a "Scientific Consensus
Statement on Environmental Agents Associated with Neurodevelopmental
Disorders."

Studies they reviewed and others link fluoride to brain abnormalities
and/or IQ deficits.”

“Achieving cavity-free status has little to do with fluoride intake, reports a study in the Fall 2008 Journal of Public Health Dentistry.

IFS researchers report, "The benefits of fluoride are mostly topical…
while fluorosis is clearly more dependent on fluoride intake."

They explain that when fluoridation began in the 1940’s, “it was
believed that fluoride needed to be ingested early in life to provide
[cavity] prevention…Today, evidence suggests that…the benefits of
fluoride are mostly topical.”

The IFS researchers find that “firmly recommending an ‘optimal’
fluoride intake is problematic.” They agree with fluoride researchers
Burt and Eklund that the term “optimal fluoride intake” be dropped
from common usage.

In 2003, IFS researchers wrote, "There is no specific nutritional
requirement for fluoride.” They described the fluoride content of some
foods. For example:

-- Processed chicken: 4.4 ppm and 10.0 ppm fluoride
-- Cereals: 3.8 to 6.3 ppm
-- Creamed spinach: 2 ppm
-- Soft drinks: up to 1.55 ppm
-- Decaffeinated tea: 3.19 ppm
-- White grape juice: 4 ppm
-- Ready-to-feed infant formula: from 0.15 to 0.30 ppm

This well-done, long-term study by respected fluoride researchers,
and published piecemeal in several scientific journals, tells us that
fluoride ingestion, such as fluoridated water and supplements, is
causing dental defects with little, if any, benefit”

“6.5 million children on Medicaid suffer with unfilled cavities because 80% of dentists won't accept Medicaid - too little money for their rich blood. Dentists accept welfare for the rich in the form of tuition and dental school government subsidies. Dentists must be required to give back. Instead they force legislators to throw fluoride chemicals into the public water supplies - as if that were a solution.

The current Journal of Public Health Dentistry reveals that African American children are ingesting too much fluoride and are more likely to suffer from fluoride-induced discolored teeth (dental fluorosis). Yet tooth decay is highest among this population. At least two children have died as a result of untreated cavities. Thousands seek emergency room care at taxpayer expense.

New York City spent $24 million on fluoridation in 2008, alone. Yet they want to save $2.5 million by cutting dental clinics. I'd say they have that arse backwards.

There is clear evidence that fluoridation does not reduce tooth decay but does expose the whole population to fluoride's adverse health effects while wasting our tax dollars.

See: http://www.freewebs.com/fluoridation/fluoridationfailsnewyork.htm

Take action to end fluoridation here congress.FluorideAction.Net”

“The fluoride that's added to US water supplies is silicofluoride. it's is captured waste from the phosphate fertilizer industry and is allowed to carry trace amounts of lead, arsenic, mercury, cadmium and more.

Besides, water fluoridation has been show to be ineffective at reducing tooth decay, harmful to health and a waste of tax dollars.

Adverse effects of fluoride
http://www.FluorideAction.net/health

Fluoridation 101
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof”