“Those same people didn't seem to have a problem when the straight couple was shoving their heterosexual lifestyle down their throats. Perhaps there is a slight double standard going on? Perhaps that was the entire point of this exercise?”
Artie Farty on Jun 9, 2014 at 14:39:44
“pretty sad america is letting 3% of the population dictate our laws.”
“Oh, no, they totally deserve disrespect. That's exactly how those religious people treated that gay couple. The level of ignorance and anti-gay hatred was on display for everyone to see.”
E Watkins on Jun 5, 2014 at 02:50:27
“Being anti-gay doesn't mean hatred. It simply means one is against the act of being gay or lesbian. If you are a true Christian, one would be against the life that a gay couple or lesbian couple leads because it is considered a "fornication" in the New Testament of the Holy Bible. The Bible also says that we are not to hate and also not to judge.”
newvoyage on Jun 3, 2014 at 07:33:11
“Yes, the level of ignorance is astounding. I was in the Pentecostal Church for 15 years. I found a great deal of ignorance, but the saddest part of it all was that it often came from otherwise good people who had simply been brainwashed into that garbage. Their ignorance doesn't affect just us; it decimates their power of reason and sets them apart from their fellow man. This nonsense has many victims, including those who subscribe to it. It took me awhile to see that it was all nonsense, sadly.”
“17 countries and 19 states with marriage equality, and I still haven't seen God's wrath. Based on the lack of frogs and locusts, I'm fairly certain God doesn't have a problem with gay couples committing themselves to each other in the institution of marriage. -- Prove me wrong, God. Prove me wrong.”
mrovin1 on Jun 3, 2014 at 16:39:21
“An atheist commentator made a funny joke once about that. He talked about how some religious leader was claiming that a particular storm or tsunami was caused by homosexuality.
The atheist's solution was to spread homosexuals out evenly across the planet. If they aren't concentrated in one place, the floods should be very mild.”
“They also lied when they said they were simply trying to "protect" marriage. Most states also banned civil unions and domestic partnerships. Which made it crystal clear that marriage was just a smoke screen; and that this had everything to do with bigotry and animus directed at gay citizens.”
bng1959 on May 25, 2014 at 23:04:01
“Thanks. Most people don't know that all other options were blocked in these laws. We really only had one way to fight back and that is to be equal. Cheers”
StevenGregory on May 25, 2014 at 15:32:12
Most of my non-gay friends have wondered why these groups are protecting marriage against gays, but not against adultery, domestic abuse, strip clubs, pornography, alcohol/drugs, and divorce.”
Ioana Seiferlein on May 24, 2014 at 15:43:33
“Thank you! Fanned and faved. You have hit the nail squarely on the head. It was bigotry and animus that drove these laws/amendments in the first place and the same bigotry and animus against LGBT people is the driving source of these fruitless appeals.”
Robbert Bricker on May 24, 2014 at 05:23:51
“david, its comments like this that remind me why i am one of your fans. ;)”
“Ignorant people like Mike Huckabee don't know that there is a difference between a non-legal symbolic church sacrament and secular (legal) civil marriage. So even if President Obama said that his Christian faith tells him that marriage is between a man and a woman, he also knows that civil marriage has absolutely nothing with his religious beliefs. Mike Huckabee, and his ilk, fail to acknowledge that you don't have to be religious in order to get married in our country, and you don't have to get "married" in a church.”
Jan Wesselink on Apr 13, 2014 at 16:30:25
“Ignorance implies not knowing differently. Mr Huckabee has had plenty of time to learn the difference between civil contracts and religious unions. You give him too much credit.”
“I'm not sure donut holes oozing white "stuff" should be considered breakfast. The other items on Taco Bell's menu don't even resemble food: http://www.tacobell.com/food/menu/breakfast-menu
The scrambled eggs with what appears to be cheese (nacho cheese?) looks completely unappetizing. I'd be curious if those eggs are actually "scrambled" on the premised, or are pre-made and squirted from a bag and reheated. In either case, it looks really gross.”
jenriggs6 on Apr 1, 2014 at 15:24:07
“Thanks for the link.”
Jae Velvin on Apr 1, 2014 at 13:57:35
“I'd be curious if those eggs are actually "scrambled" on the premised, or are pre-made and squirted from a bag and reheated.
Worked at a place with frozen scramble, just pull and thaw and you have scrambled eggs.”
“"Unlike infringing on the right to marry based on invidious racial laws, the decision to restrict marriage to couples of the opposite sex is not based on any suspect or irrational classifications," Oakley wrote.
It IS highly 'suspect' to make the assumption (and put it into law) that only straight couples are capable of being "married" -- creating a long-term monogamous relationship. 16 countries and 17 states with marriage equality have already disproven that theory. That means that there is NO rational basis to restrict marriage to opposite sex couples.”
“I just don't know how anyone would willingly be a member of a group that doesn't want them as a member. The church and most of its members made it abundantly clear that they don't want to associate with gay people. Even in the new ward the people there basically ostracize them.
I know these parents were most likely indoctrinated into the Mormon church when they were children. But there are gay-supportive churches that exist, and they would be welcomed there with open arms.
I'm also curious if they support their son eventually getting married to a man. Most Mormons believe that being gay is okay, but acting out on your sexual orientation is not. So exactly HOW supportive are they?”
“You don't have the right to vote on the civil rights of gay Americans. That's what this ruling basically says. That the U.S. Constitution guarantees that ALL Americans have to be treated equally under the law. That includes the right to marry the consenting adult of your choice.”
Meerrinhuff on Mar 24, 2014 at 02:44:54
“Two people of the same gender do not have the capability to be married, anymore than they have the capability to flap their arms and fly, so they can't be discriminated against for being prevented from doing something that they can't do anyway.”
“I agree. They should have immediately given him his money back. That was poorly handled. But if you don't believe this has "lawsuit" written all over it, I think you're being a bit naive. If there are large sums of money to be made, you can bet they'll be a lawsuit in the near future.”
furiousity on Mar 21, 2014 at 12:47:47
“And you're letting your cynicism excuse your unsubstantiated assumptions.”
“I'm fairly certain a handicapped person died on a ride a few months ago at a Six Flags park back east. So I have no doubt that Six Flags must have very strict rules in place for who can and can't go on rides. If the ticket taker didn't inform him that he might not be able to go on some rides, that was a huge mistake. But honestly, did it never cross his mind that it might happen?
Had he worn pants, and hid the fact that he was handicapped, he could have gone on all the rides and no one would have been the wiser... unless he died on one of the coasters. Which makes me ponder whether or not he planned this as a possible high-paying lawsuit. Even people that are missing legs are capable of gaming the system. Wouldn't be the first time.”
nightwitch56 on Mar 21, 2014 at 13:54:45
“what about people with two good legs that have fallen out of rides?”
ralphnovy on Mar 21, 2014 at 13:14:51
“How does that corporate Kool-Aid taste, pal?
Going to law school specializing in corporate law, by any chance?
"Obtuse" doesn't cover it.”
LadyofReason on Mar 21, 2014 at 11:15:51
“Sadly, David, I'm thinking the exact same thing....”
GrumpusMcpuffybottom on Mar 21, 2014 at 11:14:12
“Yes, that happened two years ago at a Six Flags in Western New York.
Alison Cowan on Mar 21, 2014 at 11:13:34
“"Jackel, who says he disclosed his disability before entering the park and was not told he wouldn't be able to use the rides"
Three hours for a refund is not a joke, and is not "gaming the system." He spent three hours trying to get a REFUND (because ride tickets are not cheap, are they), not threatening a lawsuit, and he STILL hasn't threatened a lawsuit. There aren't even grounds for a lawsuit anywhere in the story.
“"We are born male and female, our bodies contain a call to come together in love to make and raise the next generation as their mothers and fathers."
NO ONE IS PREVENTING THAT FROM HAPPENING, MAGGIE! Allowing same-sex couples to ALSO be able to get married, does NOT have any impact on whether or not opposite-sex couples get married. Of course, the fact that opposite-sex married couples have NEVER been obligated or required to procreate hasn't stopped Maggie from creating her own personal definition of marriage that literally doesn't exist in any of the 50 states. But why let a little thing like facts get in the way of condemning gay Americans to second-class status in society. Do us all a great big favor and simply go away -- and take Brian Brown with you.”
“"We are not allowed by law to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation or religion, and we will comply with that law. However, we would prefer not providing our services to homosexuals."
That wouldn't even be specific enough of a sign. The owners would gladly sell a generic cake, or pastry, or eclair to a gay couple. They don't want to "promote" anything having to do with gay relationships. So I'm not sure what the sign would have to say...
"As Christian business owners we'd prefer not to make commitment ceremony cakes for gay customers, because doing so would make baby Jebus cry." --- Meanwhile, they're busy making a wedding cake for that straight couple that have already been married and divorced three times before. But the owners aren't hypocrites at all... nope... not at all.”
BeninOakland on Mar 14, 2014 at 23:16:42
“Not at all. BTW, you have it exactly right here. " They don't want to "promote" anything having to do with gay relationships."
If I have time--not tonight-- I will write a little about that.”
““As artists, we have to find inspiration to create something special for our clients."
I'm fairly certain having a customer point to a cake in a photo book and saying, "We'll take the #8." does not entail a massive amount of artistic-ness on the part of the baker to create it AGAIN.
That being said, if the bakers which to FORCE their CHOSEN religious beliefs on their customers, they have an obligation to post a sign in their window that informs ALL of their customers of that policy. I'm guessing they wouldn't want to do that, because they'd lose half of their customers. -- So much for their strongly held beliefs. Money trumps bigotry, every single time.”
“Until these fanatics get it through their thick heads that being anti-gay isn't a "family value", they will continue to lose in the public sphere. It doesn't help your family when you harm gay citizens lives. -- Pretty simple stuff.”
“I'm betting that if Phil denigrated children with Down's Syndrome, I seriously doubt that Sarah would be supporting his right to free speech. But as long as he spews offensive garbage aimed at gay people while he hides behind the Bible, then it's all okay.”
“"Evidence such as the Regnerus study supports the father/mother model for a family in which to raise children."
No it doesn't. His research studied opposite-sex couples that had gay affairs. It had absolutely nothing to do with same-sex couples raising children. Absolutely nothing. He perpetrated a fraud by summiting his study as some sort of proof that same-sex couples are inferior compared to opposite-sex couples when it comes to raising children.
All of this is besides the point that NO ONE is obligated to have children in order to get married. Which makes his research all the more offensive.”