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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 16, 2009 at 22:29:28 in World

“The news item claims an unnamed Western diplomat as its source and "analysts". So basically there is still no evidence..­. lol”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 16, 2009 at 21:10:33 in World

“Hama, you are spreading myths. Please see the American Foreign Policy Project's page on such myths:
http://www.americanforeignpolicy.org/iran-gateway/key-myths-and-facts/
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 16, 2009 at 11:55:41 in World

“Ergon,

It seems that you and I, above all else, are defenders of the truth. What you call "efforts to de-stablize" the regime externally, I call lies that bolster the regime wholly. In dispelling these weak arguments (based on lies), we are only allowing the focus to return to true arguments against the regime, the main portion of them coming from the Iranian people themselves. So keep on fighting for the truth! It will prevail, as it's the most fundamental force and potent principle in the universe. Even time and space can be unraveled or bent, but the truth will always remain constant and present.

-PersianAdvocate”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 15, 2009 at 23:14:57 in World

“To you, it's a straw man argument. To every Iranian (and the near-unanimous majority of us back the evil regime that oppresses us on this issue), the right to nuclear enrichment is being attacked by Israelis with wide-ranging and deep influence in the Western world.

As for the green revolution, you clearly are mistaken. It is led by leaders well entrenched in the same establishment you think that it will overthrow. It is an issue for the Iranian people and their supporters, not people like you who are out to demonize Iranians and wish for an attack on the country.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 15, 2009 at 23:10:50 in World

“Inquisitr,

Illogical argument and irrelevant. We are attacking the proponents of the Iranian nuclear bogeyman myth. What was that saying with glass houses and rocks? You know it -- think.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 15, 2009 at 22:07:58 in World

“Ergon,

Iran has no foreseeable benefits in holding a nuclear arsenal so long as Israel and the US keep pretending it does. It's like having the power to destroy without actually having it. They are a mean and evil regime to their own people, but even the oppressed in that country will tell you that they are not idiots.”

Ergon replied on Nov 16, 2009 at 06:25:16

“Persianadvocate, I agree they are repressive, yet find myself in the position of decrying any attempt to destabilise them from outside, as witness my hundreds of posts on Iran.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 15, 2009 at 22:06:10 in World

“Your argument stands on no supporting evidence. If you were to look at the totality of US history, you would find that the US does not, in practice, support democracies over other forms of government when there is an economic or political interest to not do so. Indeed, the US has put into place dictators, supported them, and so forth all in the name "democracy". Even US supported and implemented "democracies" like in Egypt are proof of the reality you fail to understand.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 15, 2009 at 22:03:29 in World

“Further, I never said it was a "secret" -- this was your twist to make my claim seem implausible.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 15, 2009 at 22:02:29 in World

“According to you, but you are neither the arbiter of truth nor objective fact. What Miss Narwani's link showed was that there was ample backing by Israel's rabbinical clergy in support of atrocious killings of non-Jews. I could cite for you numerous analytical pieces from inside and outside of Israel showing you that the politics, ranging from settlements to "democracy" in Israel's borders, are highly directed by rabbis who influence the public opinion that keeps the politicians in power.

What you have done is simply respond in the negative without any supporting argument of your own.”

persianadvocate replied on Nov 15, 2009 at 23:08:34

“I'm a lawyer licensed in four jurisdictions and federally, but no, I have no idea what burden of proof is. I was hoping maybe you'd offer some charity.

You're asking me to prove something no poster above asserted as literally as you're taking it. Meanwhile, you agree with me that rabbis influence major policy decisions in Israel. The point that you fail to take home is that these rabbis have called for the killing of non-Jews. No mullah with power in Iran's parliament has called for the killing of Jews. Not even Ahmadinejad has done the same.”

TheLonelyGod replied on Nov 15, 2009 at 22:57:19

“Are you familiar with the concept of "burden of proof?" You should look it up.

Please, show me some of the analytic pieces. The only thing it will show is that religious officials are active in politics. Just like in America, Britain, the Arab countries, and everywhere else in the world. That in no way proves that the rabbis run the country.

Think about it: You just said that "rabbis influence public opinion." Congratulations! That's democracy in action. Outside events, advertising, the media, etc, all *also* influence public opinion. Does "the media" run the government?”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 15, 2009 at 16:51:23 in World

“Sharmine Narwani clarifies the comment above. Benjamin Netanyahu's policies are dictated, in-large, by his right-wing, Rabbinical­ly-approve­d ideologies.”

TheLonelyGod replied on Nov 15, 2009 at 20:11:43

“Ms. Narwani's comment in no way backs up either yours or zapata's comments.

Do *you* have something to proven your claim that "rabbis" secretly run the Israeli government?”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 14, 2009 at 11:36:06 in World

“Point in fact: Iranians don't make doughnuts - that's crappy pastry.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 14, 2009 at 10:52:28 in World

“Hu.man,

I am not a violent man by any means, but if they put me in a room with Ahmadinejad, I would cut his throat from ear to ear. Why am I saying this? I don't agree with the man on many issues, including his irrelevant investigation of the Holocaust (ask any Iranian, we are either indifferent or supportive of an Israeli homeland) and his treatment of my own people, the Iranian public.

This does not give Israel causus belli. First, Ahmadinejad does not control the foreign policies of Iran. Even if he wanted to, he couldn't launch a single missile at anyone without the Ayatollah's say. Second, just because he investigated the Holocaust, does not mean that he now wants to kill all Jews. I'll remind you that Iran hosts the second biggest population of Jews who were offered monetary incentives to make the pilgramige to Israel, but refused.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 14, 2009 at 10:49:06 in World

“It's very simple Marc, and you know it:
Israel is the reason anyone is wringing panties over Iran's utilization of its rights over the NPT. They seek to minimize or end their only viable regional competitor. A powerful Iran is horrible for Israel.

Israel and its cronies cannot be proponents of obligations to which they are not under. Iran is not any less sovereign than the US. Israel is a sovereign nation that is not recognized by many nations of the world. Iran does not have this problem.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 14, 2009 at 10:46:15 in World

“Inquisitr - cite it. I can't prove a negative.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 14, 2009 at 10:41:56 in World

“If Israel is the proponent of this whole matter and drawing the US into war over its legal right to enrichment via the NPT, which the US and Israel did not sign, then why wouldn't we wonder about Israel's illegal nukes?

Sounds like Israel wants to keep a nuclear monopoly insofar as the ME is concerned.”

BartRoberts replied on Nov 14, 2009 at 17:47:26

“When the same people who lied us into an illegal war in Iraq start making claims about Iran being a threat, only a fool wouldn't realize they're peddling just more of the same bovine excrement.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 14, 2009 at 10:39:46 in World

“Flagrant self-promotion at 4:50 AM. Israel has been pounding its chest like a 2 year old trumpeting "CHARGE!" for nearly 8 years. Iran has all but welcomed the attack, threatening that it will respond in a crushing manner.

All analysts agree that Israel cannot sustain a war with Iran alone. The US government cannot enjoin an attack without massive popular support which they will never have ;)”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 14, 2009 at 10:36:36 in World

“Are you kidding me? Have you ever been to Kurdistan? I have and it is NOT a stable region for these hikers to have been in. Sure, it has its periods of peace, but it is bombarded by Turkish raids and periodic Iranian raids intended to stop the terrorist activities that stem from that area.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 23:53:32 in World

“Inquisitr,

I am a big proponent of the human rights movement in Iran. However, I am disgusted by how many groups have already positioned themselves to hijack this movement from the Iranians.

For instance, we have an organization called United Against a Nuclear Iran, led by American Jews with pro-Zionist sympathies, who have decided to use the green movement as a main part of their propaganda push to stop Iran's civilian nuclear rights, which is actually against the interests of all Iranians, green or not.

A substantial majority of Iranians support Iran's nuclear program and believe that they have a right to enrichment. This is a policy that is wholly detached from domestic strife relating to our need for human rights as well. Basically, we are a people struggling for our rights outside and within our own borders.

So, the best thing to do is not to bring up the green movement when it comes to Iran's nuclear program and issues thereof in my humble opinion.”

Inquisitr replied on Nov 14, 2009 at 10:03:31

“That would be foolish.

You can't just ignore the one thing and keep it bottled up.

As long as Iran is run by Theocratic dictators with no concept of human rights then the Nuclear issue will be a big deal.

If the green wave toppled the Ayatollahs and set up a real democracy and then wanted to try and set up enrichment for power then sure that would be another story.

But as long as a Theocrat rules we can't not talk about the nuclear issue, and you can't ask us not to.

It's why you see so many "well what about israel", which is such a straw man argument it's not even funny.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 23:46:39 in World

“What this self-proclaimed (see comment above) informed former ambassador doesn't tell you is that per the IAEA protocols, Iran had no duty to disclose the site until it was ready to receive nuclear materials within six months. All estimates show that this site wouldn't have received any nuclear related materials for another 1.5 years. Iran didn't have a duty to disclose anything. Conveniently, the facility Marc pretends was "secret" to all, was disclosed to the public by Iran's adversaries the day before the Geneva talks.

Marc pretends to have a smoking gun here. He doesn't speak of the persistent Israeli military threats to Iran's sovereignty over the past 8 years, but instead goes over the same old tagline of a mistranslated Ahmadinejad quote in 2006. He doesn't take issue with Iran's own interest to hide even its "good" nuclear sites from attack.

Why would it be within military areas? Why would it be small (and probably not the only one of its kind) instead of all in one large and obvious area? Marc would like us to think that they did that ONLY to create nuclear weapons, a nearly 70 year old technology that would be outdated as soon as it was created by the Iranians.

Marc also insists that the IAEA "determined" that the facility was designed specifically for weapons. Even today's press releases don't state it at that level of certainty.

Clearly, someone here is propagandizing. Could be me or could be Marc. You decide.”

hama66 replied on Nov 16, 2009 at 14:11:01

“with your user name i'm going to take you at your word and assume you're at least as guilty of propagandizing. being that iran is a persian country and propaganda is a very useful tool for an advocate.

if Qum wasn't a secret then why did iran's adversaries have to reveal it to the world? and if israel were truly after domination of the middle east then why didn't they push it have the seven-days war when they humiliated every persian and arab nation in the region?”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 22:37:44 in World

“Marc,

Are you saying that Israel has no obligation to the international community to come clean about its nuclear arsenal when it circumvented a treaty it should have been forced to sign? Also, I challenge you here and now to translate, verbatim, the call for Israel's destruction you so proudly trumpet. What did Ahmadinejad say in 2006? Do you speak Farsi?

No, instead you repeat the same tag line. Tell me, ambassador, what would happen if Iran shot even 1 nuke in the air in Israel's direction, even if the US did nothing to interfere? Israel has no nukes or second-strike capabilities? They don't hold 300+ MODERN nuclear weapons with payloads designed by us, the Americans? They don't have a superior air force thanks to the US? What makes you think Iran would actually attack Israel?

I'm sorry for asking questions, but at the moment it appears to me that you are fearmongering and I am hoping for a clarification.

-Concerned Citizen”

hp blogger Amb. Marc Ginsberg replied on Nov 16, 2009 at 22:42:01

“All I wrote about was Iran was forced to come clean on Fordo and now the IAEA is acknowledging that it was a secret military installation in utter violation of the NPT. How about facing this fact. Marc”

Macready replied on Nov 14, 2009 at 09:26:50

“Excellent Concerned Citizen . . . fanned!”

hp blogger Amb. Marc Ginsberg replied on Nov 14, 2009 at 08:34:18

“I don't quite understand what Israel's nuclear program has to do with the article. I believe President Obama's goal of reducing non-proliferation is worthy of support by all nations (Israel included). The article is focused on Iran's failure to honor its IAEA obligations. Marc”

hu.man replied on Nov 14, 2009 at 03:37:43

“May be repeating the "tag line" as you put it, is an egregious error on the part of the Ambassador. But Ahamadinejad's denial of Holocaust is akin to pouring salt on an open wound. Ahamadinejad demonstrates his complete disconnection from reality by making these hurtful assertions and then he claims that there is some sort of conspiracy afoot because further examination of facts regrading the Holocaust is somehow being prevented by the powers of the be here.

Ahmadinejad simply fails to understand no one wants to closely examined this truly shameful chapter of the history particularly those who were complicit in it by standing by and allowing it to happen. So Ahmadinejad's dwelling on this subject and the consequent annoyance by all those who want to move off the topic is particularly irksome because Ahmadinejad has absolutely no business injecting himself into the Holocaust debate.

Israel's anger with Iran may not be fully justified based on the "tag line" you refer to here but it is more than fully justified with Ahamdinejad's lack of sensitivity toward this stain (the Holocaust) that exists on the conscious of humanity.”

persianadvocate replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 23:48:59

“Either you have spent the last hour or so drafting me a response or you have chosen not to reply.

Readers, take note.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 22:25:21 in World

“LOL, nice embellishment. Yes, people have been executed in Iran that I deplored, but women were never hung for wearing makeup. This is a lie.”

Inquisitr replied on Nov 14, 2009 at 09:51:55

“Except that yeah they have”

jmadisonftw replied on Nov 14, 2009 at 00:49:40

“Oh, excuse me. I imagine in your world infidelity would qualify as a sufficient offence.”
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"Qum" Buy Ya

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 22:24:21 in World

“It's quite apparent that, after reading the objective facts, Ambassador Ginsberg's statements are no more than talking points of the Israeli lobby to which he swears allegiance.”
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Israel Stands Alone

Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 14:23:11 in World

“Well said and factually accurate. It's obvious those diametrically opposed to this view are riding on lies while we're fueled by the truth.

Let's see who wins, shall we? ;)”

Caru replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 14:50:43

“Whoever makes the most money.”
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Israel Stands Alone

Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 14:21:07 in World

“Not MY American flag. The flag of politicians who are controlled and paid by the Israeli lobbies.”
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Russia "Nyet!" and China "Bu Shi!" to Tougher Iran Sanctions

Commented Oct 17, 2009 at 14:46:51 in World

“Israel is not our national interest but the interest of a lobby known as AIPAC. This lobby should be labeled correctly as a foreign entity, but much $$$ and hands on politician's throats enables them to avoid something like that from happening.”
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