“Yes there have been many prominent members of their party cheering them on (including their VP nominee for goodness sake), but honestly kjallyn, more frightening to me is the deafening silence of the rest.
One of my favorite quotes from MLK: "History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. "
“I'm AA and I'm pretty tired of people railing against Clarence Thomas because he's a conservative that happens to be a black man. I don't agree with his views, but I would defend his right to believe whatever he chooses to believe regardless of his color.
I don't believe in the Negro Thought Police who decide what blacks can and can not think or believe. And to be honest, if we're going to go "there", I have a bigger problem with Ludacris, Snoop, et. al. who get on the airwaves calling black women everything but a child of God and promulgating negative sterotypes. They are "Uncle Toms" in their own way.
I'm perfectly able to disagree with his views without dragging his race into it. I'm just sayin'.”
“I always get nervous when people purport to be in or out of step with the views "most Americans". What does that have to do with anything? There was a time in this country when "most Americans" believed whole lot of things that have since been debunked.
All you can definitively state is what YOU believe. Period. You can't speak to what "most of the good people of this country believe". Who are the "good people"? The people you think are "good"?
You are just as bad as the liberals you seem to disdain so much. Making general statements about views some liberals have and then ascribing the most negative motives to those beliefs.
Most ironic is that you seem to think that "your point of view is superior" as well. And I see no evidence from this post that you aren't just as dismissive of "liberal" beliefs as you accuse liberals of being towards the beliefs of the Tea Party folks.”
TaggartSteel on Mar 15, 2010 at 16:05:39
“Have you read the posts here?
Thank you for writing Tea Party, most here go directly to Teabaggers. They have no understanding of the frustration people in the "flyover" country have for Washington and the Liberal agenda.
I am studying what the Liberals believe here and other places to better understand their points.
For the most part I read class envy toward the "wealthy" as a driving force for reform rather than the desire to help the uninsured. The poor are given a wink and a nod before going on a long rant about how the rich and evil corporations are sponging off the rest of us. Throw in some, "Bush gave tax cuts to the rich and corporations. Everything wrong with this country is his fault." and you've read 90% of the posts here.
I am open to the idea that health insurance might not be a "real" commodity and need special handling outside the free market, like police, fire and education, but I don't see that argument here. I see people saying that we need to redistribute the wealth and rewrite the Constitution.”
“I'm AA also, and the problem with Republicans on race is that they are ever so quick to point out "racism" or "reverse-racism" (their all time favorite!) in others, but VERY slow to call it out in their own party. The examples you state above are but a drop in the bucket. Their fundamental strategy for decades has been to use race as a tool to garner votes. And then they wonder why they have difficulty building trust in the AA community?”
trumpetman on Mar 15, 2010 at 15:02:51
“Yes you make some valid points and my examples are a drop in the bucket.”
“Exactly, This is what burns me... folks who are quick to talk about Gates behavior and give Crowley a total pass on his behavior. Half of the people complaining about Gates' behavior behave like fools themselves with far less provocation (like getting cut off in traffic). Like we're all civil and reasonable at all times. Like no one has ever been provoked to anger. If yelling is a crime then many of us are in trouble.”
“The difference is that the odds of your son getting shot, handcuffed or jailed in an encounter with the police are significantly lower than the odds of this happening to my black son. (This is a statistical fact, there are many studies backing this up).
To have a discussion about race you have to start by being prepared to accept that your perspective might be very different from a black person's perspective. The anger you see reflected here is very real and not a figment of black folks' imaginations. The reason this Gates thing has struck such a nerve is that just about every black person 18 yrs or older has direct experience with this kind of thing.”
“What in the world are you talking about? The last resort of the intellectually lazy is personal attacks. Do you have an intelligent arguments against the points/facts Boxer and Kerry make in their editorial? Are you saying that our nation should make policy positions based on personality (you like Palin better, so regardless of whether or not her positions make sense, you support her positions?). I don't particularly like Kerry, but that doesn't somehow suspend my ability to read, think and analyze.
In the words of Michael Douglas in the movie American President "these are serious times requiring serious people". Let's leave the personality contests to People Magazine.”
“Exactly right. How many of us have been in similar situations... We get heated, our egos get engaged, and then we do or say something that we wish we could take back? No matter how "decent" we are, we are all capable of indecent behavior from time to time when provoked. A police officer sweating you in your home would be a major provocation. A guy yelling in your face would be another.”