“I'm pretty sure even you would "break the law" if an F5 tornado were chasing you down. Jaywalking should only be a crime when it poses a risk. It should be completely encouraged when it gets a person out of harms way. When there is no risk at all (no cars around and no F5 tornados) then go ahead and do it, it's not hurting anyone.”
“Your first sentence rebuts your second (fallacious) sentence. Your third sentence, however, insults Jewish people by insinuating that they have a bias. All in all a completely discombobulated comment.”
Quwhellyicquid on Jun 18, 2010 at 20:52:03
“I understand the empathy in the original post. The only thing discombobulated is debating political correctness. Point goes to K2Sticks: the comment is not disingenuous. Your remark is however.”
“Okay point taken regarding the particular location. I think jaywalking is fine if its done safely. Humans are rather smart creatures and should be allowed to cross the street just as other animals do. Jaywalking citations are a big money maker in my town too at $130 per citation. It's just screams of big brother and over reaching government.”
“I admire these girls for standing up for their right to walk wherever they want. There are too many streets going everywhere and too few crosswalks and the traffic signals take too long. Everyone knows that pedestrians were given the lowest priority in infrastructure development throughout the USA in the push for automobile dominance. But yeah grabbing a cop is not a good idea. He did what he had to do to establish control. Glad your brother wasn't there to further escalate the situation.”
J242 on Jun 16, 2010 at 19:48:41
“Ummm, you do realize that there was a pedestrian overpass right behind them right? Of course not... See, here in Seattle, pedestrians have the full right of way and our traffic lights are timed based around expectations of pedestrian foot traffic through the areas. We even put in multiple overpass pedestrian walkways to ensure that people can walk, ride their bikes, rollerblade, etc as much as they like with as little inconvenience as possible. They had a pedestrian overpass that they could have used but chose, remember that word as they chose not to use it but instead decided it would be better to break the law.
No sympathy for them whatsoever.”
MyVesta on Jun 16, 2010 at 19:25:32
“"The incident happened at Martin Luther King Jr. Way South near the arterial's intersection with Rainier Avenue South, in the vicinity of Franklin High School.
A Seattle transportation department plan released in 2006 called for Seattle police pedestrian-safety patrols to target jaywalking, particularly near Franklin High and north of South McClellan Street by the Lowe's hardware store.
Between 2002 and 2006 more jaywalkers were hit by vehicles on Rainier Avenue South than in any other corridor in the city.
During that period, 61 pedestrians were struck while jaywalking on Rainier Avenue South -- nearly double the number of accidents on Aurora Avenue North, which had the second highest number of jaywalkers hit with 35, according to Seattle Transportation Department records.
Also during that period, 23 other jaywalkers were hit in the South End, on Martin Luther King Jr. Way South and on Beacon Avenue South. Those roads also accounted for 126 pedestrian accidents at intersections.
There were six jaywalking accidents on Aurora Avenue North in the several blocks south of North 125th Street between 2002 and 2006, tying that short stretch of roadway with Rainier Avenue South between South Hudson Street and 39th Avenue South for the highest number of jaywalking collisions in the city."
“So by your reasoning driving should also be illegal because of all the accidents each year. Try removing the emotion that is hampering your ability to reason. Jaywalking is not a big deal, everyone does it, especially cops. In fact if everyone were to not jaywalk we would all end up walking 2x as far as we need to in order to get anywhere because there are not enough crosswalks.”
McCorbin100107 on Jun 16, 2010 at 19:10:03
“Everyone does it so it's not a big deal is not an actual legal defense. And if everyone didn't jaywalk and had to walk 2x farther perhaps we wouldn't be a nation of obese sloths. But I digress...”
Zofomofo on Jun 16, 2010 at 19:06:34
“missed the point. Check the history of this location 61 incidents. The cops are trying to help.”
peegan on Jun 16, 2010 at 19:06:30
“They weren't in trouble for jaywalking, but for ignoring the officer and walking away when he went to issue a ticket. Guaranteed to get you arrested.”
“I'm not so sure, masts on older boats might break due to failed rigging, but a high tech boat like Abby's would be in top shape, suggesting that the likely cause of the broken mast would be by capsizing. Capsizing happens when you either (a) are sailing downwind and get pooped on or just get too much speed and lose stability then spin out of control and capsize (broach aka death roll) or (b) have taken down all sails and head for safety in the cabin, letting the boat fend for itself (lying ahull). In the lying ahull case the boat usually aligns itself parallel to the wave crests so any wave that is ~35% as high as the vessel's length could cause a capsize. A three story high wave would certainly be able to do the job.”
“Anyone know the details of her boats de-masting? Survival tactics in strong storms generally include deploying a sea anchor off the bow (or a couple points port or starboard of the bow) and raising a small riding sail to keep the vessel streamlined with respect to the wind. In this manner, the boat bobs up and down like a cork thus greatly reducing risk of broaching, dismasting, etc.”
highground on Jun 15, 2010 at 21:39:11
“She had years upon years of experience I'm sure she did just that.”
“Hundreds of people safely dive in polluted waters by using an impermeable dry suit with a full coverage mask. Post-dive, the diver is washed down by his support crew until all the contaminants are removed. Perhaps that is what he meant by Hazmat suit. Regardless, any professional diver should own a good quality dry suit even when operating in warmer waters such as the Gulf.”