“I agree Catherine. It saddens me to see such people use fear to manipulate the American public. The health insurance industry is pumping millions into disinformation campaigns. Why? To protect their profits.”
“You're completely wrong about that, Chris. Phase 1: Get more people insured so that millions will stop using hospitals for charity care, thereby driving hospital costs up (you and I pay for that care in higher hospital rates). Phase 2: Organize states via public-private partnerships to take control of health care purchasing -- placing limits on what purchasers are willing to pay for services. The two strategies work together and will take time to see effect. It took years to get us into this mess; it will take a few years to stop and control escalating costs.”
“Just curious...do you work for Glaxo-Kline or some other drug company? Certainly sounds like it. Our health care costs are ridiculously high because (1) the health industry is profit driven; (2) too many Americans can't afford health insurance so they avoid care and/or use the emergency room for charity care -- which won't turn them away, raising our hospital costs; (3) the drug companies know they can get away with charging ridiculously high prices in the US because we are a private market rather than a public market, which can limit costs. The idea that "free market" makes our care better is rubbish.”
“We know someone who did serious damage to her knee on the job due to an unsafe working condition caused by another employee. The supervisor fired the injured worker for requesting the woman who violated company policy be instructed in correct disposal procedures for waste material. The woman told me she was shocked by UPS's unethical treatment of employees. Looks like she was right.”
“32 years ago, when I was 11 years old, a classmate of mine wrestled my teacher to the ground. If there had been a gun in the room, I'm fairly certain he would have found a way to get and shoot her. He had already committed multiple acts of vandalism against the class and her when she'd had enough and insisted he go to the principal's office. I'll never forget my poor teacher's arms and stocking-clad legs flailing (all female teachers wore dresses back then) as he pummeled her. She would never, ever have thought to use a gun...but he would. Suggesting guns belong in classrooms is insane, stupid, or short-sighted. I can't decided which.”
Askhole at large on Apr 2, 2013 at 22:14:41
“All that proves is you cannot make violence any more illegal. Our species preys on ourselves. We always have, we always will.”
illinoisgun on Apr 2, 2013 at 21:16:11
“I doubt your bully buddy would have even tried to assault your teacher knowing she may have been armed. The potential for armed responses to unprovoked violence deters more assaults than you may realize. Never underestimate the power of deterence.”
“You are buying into the insurance industry's rhetoric. They want the Affordable Care Act killed because it creates a competitive system of alternative health insurance that keeps insurance rates reasonable; requires them to treat their customers (us) ethically; and--as a result--undermines their profits. If you want middle class America to be bankrupted by out-of-control healthcare costs and an unrestrained insurance industry, then so be it. But, if you are like me and my friends and a part of the middle class, you should wake up and realize the insurance industry is behind these repeated attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.”
Kara Oneil on Mar 23, 2013 at 12:02:56
“how about mandated life insurance? Thats one you will probably never hear of.”
“Wealthy insurance companies want the Affordable Care Act killed at all costs. It is a threat to their profits.
ACA is about cost containment--creating an alternative health insurance system so that insurance companies are forced to keep their private-pay insurance rates reasonable (YES -- there still will be private insurance!) And, it's about creating affordable health insurance that can be used by the poor and working poor so they don't go to the emergency room for healthcare (ER's cost at least 10 times as much as an office visit...the fastest growing category of people in our nation are those who work but don't make enough money to be able to pay for health insurance, which is now just as costly as what you pay for monthly home rental).
The insurance lobby has pumped millions into perpetuating lies about the Affordable Care Act in order to kill it. Don't let them succeed. PLEASE tell your Congressmen you want affordable healthcare.”
upset99 on Mar 23, 2013 at 00:30:00
“I dont trust any of this. What would rather have 3% of 500 Billion or 3% of One Trillion.
this is a farce.... income family of four making 75K
+Taxes paid 16K
+ Health Insurance premiums 12K 1K per month
“Just shows how teeny-tiny your thinking is. I voted For George HW Bush and George W. Then, right wing extremists who believe we still live in the 1800s took over the party. Now, extremists are destroying the nation. I'm still a moderate. China won't destroy this nation. The far right and the far left will. Think about it.”
“You and I actually agree (re: how churches use the phrase to lay guilt upon parishoners). It's actually a misuse and an abuse of the reality that we all sin and fall short of the glory of God. We are forgiven through Jesus -- that is freeing; not persecuting. Perfection is not the path to God; faith is. My favorite representation of this in the Bible is Jesus's final lesson on the Cross. The thief longs to be in Heaven with Jesus. Jesus doesn't ask if he's been baptized or if he's repented of his sins or whether he's done good works. He merely requires that the thief have faith. Through faith alone the thief is worthy of Heaven. Some Christian churches teach this; many don't.”
“Hello Kate. My words were for believers. I respect your choice not to believe. For what it's worth, I agree with you that religious leaders have used religion to manipulate the masses for thousands of years. Jesus spoke to that. As I mentioned, the only anger he expressed during his short time on Earth was toward religious leaders who used that kind of manipulation. It is wrong, wrong, wrong -- and, sadly, it is one of many reasons people choose not to believe. True faith does not rely on human interpretation. True faith is believing that God is in all things, including us. Jesus spoke to that, as well.”
usacookie on Feb 24, 2013 at 16:55:00
“rsstone, F & F”
kateslate on Feb 24, 2013 at 16:05:27
“True faith can also be that people just don't believe there is a god. Or that god does not take man's form or vice versa. Or that there is an intelligence to life's design, but that does not = god. The idea of god has been manipulated to ridiculous degrees.
And thank you for respecting my skepticism. The world is wide open for fact-seekers. ”
“Please provide examples of people you know personally who love ALL the time, who forgive ALL the time, who never envy, who never lie, etc., etc. It's in human nature. That's what I mean by "inherently sinful." There's no shame in it. In fact, it can be liberating to know that there is no such thing as human perfection. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. It is the reason God provided a sacrifice for our sins. If you don't believe that, then you're not "Christian." And that's perfectly okay, in my book. God gives us free will -- we have the right to choose. Thank you for the conversation.”
Joe Bethersonton on Feb 24, 2013 at 18:39:10
“While I agree that human perfection does not exist, it's a HUGE leap, in my opinion, to go from that to "inherently sinful" -- especially given the theological history of that phrase. While you sound quite well-meaning by it, the effects of the phrase itself has been anything but benign. For centuries, humans have been guilted into compliance by being told (every Sunday) that "they are by nature sinful and unclean" and that they are "poor, miserable sinners." I couldn't disagree more strongly with that outlook.”
“The Catholic Church is led by a man, not God. Man is inherently sinful and the reason God sent his Son to earth. Believing in a church is not the same as believing in Jesus. In fact, the only anger Jesus showed during his time on Earth was toward religious leaders who used their authority to abuse their power (allowing commerce in the Temple, among other abuses).”
Talossa on Feb 24, 2013 at 16:13:49
“True enough (and fanned/faved), but Jesus did establish a church, which has passed its authority down for dozens of generations from his time to ours. Although this apostolic succession is now found in several different competing denominations, we all worship the same Christ and we all share in the same eucharist. As bad as man can mess things up, God's promise remains.
In the words of one of my favorite writers, "There is a document that records God's endless, dispiriting struggle with organized religion, known as the Bible." :-)”
Jeremy Bursac on Feb 24, 2013 at 16:02:35
“Jesus was a righteous, early century rabbi.”
Joe Bethersonton on Feb 24, 2013 at 15:45:41
“I agree with you about the religious leaders in the Gospel narrative, but I do NOT agree that mankind is "inherently sinful"; in fact, I vigorously disagree with that assessment and consider it an integral component of religious manipulation. If you can get people to believe that they are "intrinsically" flawed, they're LESS likely to trust their own observations and MORE likely to become (and to remain) compliant to authority.”
kateslate on Feb 24, 2013 at 15:41:50
“Does anybody profit from the sales? Do those profits go 100% to the poor or in somebody's pocket? How is this different from any corporate entity and why don't churches pay taxes? They are PACs, after all.”
dpliing on Feb 24, 2013 at 15:41:49
“I agree. But we ALL do sin. Ultimately this is all up to Jesus.
Repenting means to turn from sin totally. Not to sin, say you're sorry and do it again.
Although this takes practice. Take care.”
kateslate on Feb 24, 2013 at 15:40:43
“and what do you think about snack, book, and coffee shops in church lobbies? Money changers? Or no?”
kateslate on Feb 24, 2013 at 15:39:46
“Convincing people that there IS a god, and then convincing them that he actually SENT a son to earth....wow. It has worked to control the masses for a couple thousand years, but I do believe the gig is up.”
“Shooting is therapeutic for war vets...hmm. I appreciate our war vets too much to raise concerns about that statement. I come from a long line of war vets. A few of them hunted on occasion, but none of them used target practice for therapy. Just an observation.”
EC001 on Feb 10, 2013 at 00:27:16
“You are right. I also come from a long line of veterans and they didn't need target practice to solve manhood problems because they didn't have manhood problems.”
“Warped. I'll continue to respect science if you'll believe that something we don't yet understand holds atoms together in amazing combinations that create both function and beauty in our universe.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." -- Albert Einstein”
bc82 on Feb 9, 2013 at 15:13:29
“"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
"The mystical trend of our time, which shows itself particularly in the rampant growth of the so-called Theosophy and Spiritualism, is for me no more than a symptom of weakness and confusion. Since our inner experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be empty and devoid of meaning."
""The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends."
-- Albert Einstein
I believe that something exists that we don't yet understand, but just as Einstein, I believe it to be ultimately accessible to science.”
“Ah...this was hidden from my view. You and I may believe along similar lines. But, friend, your first comment can be construed as judgmental and condemning of those who don't believe as you believe. Please consider tempering that. Non-Christians feel very persecuted by Christians, and that was never Jesus's intent. He loved them. If you recall, the only people Jesus expressed anger toward were religious leaders and religious institutions that used God for their own evil intent (including the religious leaders who allowed money-changing and commerce in the temple.)”
OnlyOneWay on Feb 20, 2013 at 19:41:24
The Bible tells us that Jesus resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. Doesn't the Bible tell us that God (Jesus) is angry with sinners everyday? But that His anger is but for a moment (praise God). Thanks for the counsel please pray with me that God will temper my words. It is my hope that I will always tell the truth but do it with love. So tell me who is Jesus?”
“You and I agree that Jesus is the Son of God. But we disagree on fundamentalist interpretations of the Bible -- the very reason that America was founded. "Denominations" arose because of the way that religious leaders interpreted passages of scripture. And Christian people fled Europe to avoid prosecution for their beliefs. Now, in the 21st Century, "sects" of people in America would FORCE others to believe their interpretations of the Bible. Concepts spoken by Jesus that these sects ignore: No man can know the mind of God. God's ways are not man's ways. No one disciple is better than another. And, the one that means the most to me, complete forgiveness on the cross for a thief who only needed to believe in Jesus to be allowed into the kingdom of heaven -- he didn't need to confess his sins or be baptized or do good works. Man is still proud and self-righteous and "creating" so-called "correct answers." Only God can do that. If you call yourself a Christian, your job is to believe and not judge others. Period. We're messing up Jesus's work on Earth and turning people away from God, not to him.”
“Jesus didn't hate the church. He condemned the Pharisees and Sadducees (Jewish leaders) for manipulating things of God for their own gain. Gotta say it...kinda like a lot of conservative Christians today. We're not all like that. Jesus is pretty amazing, when you know who he really is. I know a lot of people feel the way you do. I totally understand and respect you for it.”