“Uh....ok. SO a golden retriever has the same personality as a boxer as a pit bull as a chihuahua as a dalmatian. They are all a blank slate upon which theire entire personalities and behaviors depend entirely on who owns them. Which then means that people who own pit bulls are the stupid ones. Of course. In the meantime....Pit bulls are the single largest source of dog bites in this country.”
“GSD's can be great, but they are only as good as the breeder that bred them. There are far too many GSD's with serious health and behavior problems. Know that breed is not a brand. You will not get consistent temperament just because you choose the same breed. If you want another GSD like your lovely Virgil, please, please, please be sure to do your research before buying another dog or you may end up with something completely different than what you want.”
WarriorLemming on May 27, 2012 at 17:59:38
“I agree with your account, sacdogtrainer, breeding along with training make any breed a great dog. I will probably buy from the same breeder when the time comes but I would also consider adopting a rescued GSD. It would have to be one that is good with cats (we have many) and can get along with our Welsh Corgi female. I will be very careful if we consider a rescued GSD because we won't know what it's past experience is.”
“Actually, aggression isn't always the owner's fault. It starts with the breeder and the dogs they choose to breed (fearful behavior, the precursor to aggression, is genetic). Then it depends on the level of socialization the puppy received prior to the end of the critical period of socialization at 14 weeks. Next, continued socialization and training, including the types of training methods and equipment used (aversive methods and equipment can cause or increase aggressive behavior over time), as well as whether or not the dog encountered any trauma at some point, all can have an effect on behavior. Finally, medical conditions can contribute to aggressive behavior.”
Ossit on May 31, 2012 at 02:57:25
“Yeah, I have to conscede to that, now that you mention it. It does matter how the parents are. It's amazing how some breed dogs and have no clue. They just slap two dogs together. Yes, medical conditions have to be accounted for too. But some tend to over do the medication part in terms of calming a dog. But when the breeding is done by someone who knows, when there's no medical condition, how one trains or doesn't, tends to get aggression. If a dog can get away with something, they'll use it for all its worth until stopped. I'm still working on that when my dog gets over protective of me on the couch when my cat approaches. We've got it about 90% solved so far.”
Ossit on May 29, 2012 at 17:16:24
“Another thing about socialization are owners who let their dogs decide things. Well I think that mailman is a threat. I'll go after them. That person gets too close to my owner, well I decide how close you get. Owner allows their dog to growl when they get too near to their toys or food, owner wonders why dog snaps. That's socialization in that the dog is deciding he owns everything. It's wrong socialization that the owner perpetuates and blames the dog. I taught my girl early, gently that her toys and food were mine and I can take them any time I want, I can pet my dog while she's eating. I put my fingers in my dog's mouth when she was a pup so when the vet has to open her mouth and go into her mouth to chip some tarter off her teeth, Montana doesn't bite. I'll admit I get mad at Montana when she pees on the carpet despite being litter box trained. Then I remember that I didn't take her outside. When we don't go outside at certain late hours she'll do it in the box. Her mistakes are mine. I'm getting over getting mad. I have to keep her schedule.”
Ossit on May 29, 2012 at 17:07:56
“There are some who breed dogs and don't care what kind of temperament they have, the goal being breed pups and get money. Then there's the owner who allows aggression. Oh let's play rough with the dog. Dog gets too mouthy otherwise, dog is yelled at. Dog gets confused. Why is it okay to bite when playing rough, but not bite any other time. There have been dogs specifically bred for aggression, but that can also be bred out when you know what you're doing. But people think all of that breed is vicious. Continued socialization is the key, and beginning socialization is the key. You socialize a puppy to people, noises, places, early. You don't wait until they're 10 years old bring them out in public and they have no idea how to behave. Well hopefully people stop using shock collars and spike collars. Trauma now that's interesting. I watch Cesar Millan. He says trauma remains in a dog when owners keep over compensating. He had one owner whose dog was terrified of waxed floors because as a puppy this dog slid and crashed through a plate glass window. Well Cesar made that disappear by making that dog walk on a waxed floor not avoid it. It took about half an hour to untrain that trauma. Medical conditions are the last to discover. But even with that, too many would prefer tranquilizers instead of looking at their own behavior.”
“A more accurate description is that certain types of owners prefer breeds PERCEIVED as aggressive, as there is no such thing as an aggressive breed or an aggressive dog. Aggression is a response by any animal to a perceived threat. All animals and all breeds of dogs are capable of aggression.
This article just perpetuates the myth that certain types of breeds are more aggressive than others, when anyone who works with dogs professionally will debunk this.”
“I would agree that a dog that has exhibited a strong enough prey instinct to kill small animals should be kept separated from your son. It doesn't make the dog "bad." It is instinct, after all.
Because many dogs who are involved in these types of attacks on newborns/infants are perfectly friendly with adults and even older children, it is thought that this is a predatory behavior and something about the sound the infants make triggers the behavior.”
“The link you posted does not appear to be valid. However, there are many issues with these so-called "statistics" quoted by victims' rights groups such as that, not the least of which is that many breeds involved in attacks are mislabeled as Pit Bulls. Most people would see "Pit Bull" in these dogs:
If you compare that to the statistics of the number of dogs in the country who fall under the category of "Pit Bull," you'll find that less than .1% of Pit Bulls are involved in fatal attacks.
"Pit Bull" type dogs are large and powerful and, just like any large and powerful breed, are capable of doing more damage when they bite than smaller, lighter breeds. However, that DOES NOT mean they are more likely to bite/attack.
I've worked in training and behavior for 12 years. I've worked with more than 3,000 dogs and 150 different breeds. I've only been bitten a few times and never once by a "Pit Bull." Chihuahua, English Bulldog, Border Collie, German Shepherd and German Shepherd mix. I worked with a woman with a Maltese who had sustained serious Level 3 bites (deep lacerations that required stitches) over 36 times from her own dog.
Anyone who works with dogs on a regular basis will tell you that breed is no guarantee of aggression or safety. I take the same precautions with a Golden Retriever as with a Presa Canario.”
thirstyderp on Apr 21, 2012 at 13:09:56
“Meta analysis of published news stories shows the Pit Bull terrier and the Pit Bull mix to be overwhelmingly responsible for the total number of bodily harm, deaths and maimings. This based upon 1982-2011 data. Although they only represent ~.033% of the US dog population, they have an undeniably dangerous history.
Personally, I would support breed-specific legislation to ultimately outlaw the Pit Bull and Pit Bull-mix.
Yes, even little puppies can maim and kill, but this breed has shown itself to be the most aggressive and whether that's a consequence of training or natural instinct is irrelevant. These dogs kill and maim far in excess of other breeds.”
“So much for those who are so certain that only one breed is capable of killing a child. Unfortunately, many people wouldn't think twice about letting their child approach a dog that looks like this, just because it doesn't look like a Pit Bull.”
“While separation is important when you can't supervise the dogs, you should also take steps to acclimate the dogs to your son. This can be done gradually, in a way that does not endanger your son or put the dogs in a defensive position. I strongly recommend starting now, while you have plenty of time before your son is mobile.
If you go to www.apdt.com, you can find a trainer in your area who can guide you through the process.”
stargazorr on Apr 21, 2012 at 00:33:07
“Thank you for the link. He has 3 dogs that predate me and him being together. Two are Malamutes and one boxer mix. I trust 2 of the dogs enough to have introduce the baby but while the baby is in my arms. They are NEVER allowed in. Now the female Malamute is the one I don't trust! In fact I am actually dead set about rehoming her due to the fact she killed a kitten and our own cat and has also killed a neighbors little Chiuaua. I also have a 7 year old that cant even play in the backyard because of her. Its my children over the dog in my eyes!”
“While I think that a dog that kills a human should be put down, your statement that a dog that bites can not be trusted in any way is false.
Dogs bite. It is their only means of defense, especially when ignorant humans fail to recognize the signs of stress and avoidance that many dogs exhibit well before they bite. I have worked with biting dogs for over a decade and have worked with over 150 different breeds. I can tell you that once the owners learn how to recognize common triggers for aggressive behavior and take responsible measures, future bites are 100% preventable.
I'm sorry you were bitten as a child. You don't give the details of the bite. Where did it bite you? Where were you when it happened? Where was the dog? Was the dog loose or confined? All of these can pinpoint exactly why you were bitten and how the bite could have been prevented.”
noellegrace92 on Apr 21, 2012 at 00:16:03
“If a dog bites, it should not be trusted around a child and is a hazard to a child.”
“So, your sample of married men is representative of the total population? You know SO MANY married men that you can conclude marriage is horrible. It has nothing to do with the men, themselves, the choices they made and continue to make, the effort they put into their relationships, etc.
“They are also disproportionately represented in shelter populations. Given the estimated number of Pit Bull-type dogs in this country, only .01% are involved in fatal attacks. In the 1800's, Bloodhounds led the statistics. (Source: National Canine Research Council, Fatal Dog Attacks and The Pit Bull Placebo).”
Feb 23, 2012 at 12:34:10
“While some pit bull-type dogs have a high prey instinct, not all of them do. In fact, since most of them these days come from ignorant backyard breeders, they aren't being bred for a working temperament, resulting in the same level of prey instinct as any other breed.
A breed is not a brand and doesn't guarantee any type of behavior.”
natal plum on Feb 23, 2012 at 19:34:15
“Pit bulls are a breed and a brand and will kill anything with the command word, human, child, mountain lion or otherwise.”
“There are so many things wrong with your argument, I don't even know where to start. Oh wait, yes I do: Starting today, it is illegal to prefer brunettes. From now on, you are only allowed to prefer blondes.”
“Just because one criticizes something or someone does not mean they are jealous. Oprah may be a savvy businesswoman, but it doesn't mean criticism of her show is not valid.
Critical thinking is a valuable skill and keeps us from becoming mindless consumers of everything pushed at us on television.”
Jorge Al-Subbad on Nov 19, 2009 at 23:51:49
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