“You have lost touch with reality. The plan is not working. It is a complete disaster. Stop watching MSNBC. 5 million people have lost insurance. They can't even sign up for obamacare because the web site is not working. When they do they will have higher rates since the young people will not enroll. Tens of millions of people that work for small caompanies will lose thier insurance next year.”
15Vortex on Nov 27, 2013 at 12:40:55
“I don't watch MSNBC.
Just saying the same thing over and over does not make it true, despite what they do on Fox.
People, the vast majority, are getting better plans for less money.
Sure, the junk the insurance companies were selling in the guise of insurance is being pushed out of the market by regulations, but that's what always happens; that's how markets work.
The regulations are necessary because those with power in the market will cheat to make more money.
So you understand: individual consumers have no power to contract with massive corporations for their insurance contract. All they can do is shop around. Due to market collusion, there is no meaningful variation in the products available becuase the providers have no reason to do so, and every reason to sell worthless junk policies to people with no power and limited funds.
It is exaclty the same as companies selling fake food (sawdust sausage, white water, etc.).
Lack of regulation results in catastrophe for normal people.
They won't lose their insurance. A company that "employs" people but and provide "health insurance" that doesn't work should go out of business in favor of companies that can actually provide jobs.
The beautyr of the law is that if they can't provide insurance becuase their business model does not allow them to actually employ people at a living wage (which includes health coverage), now people can buy their own insurance.
The coverage is divorced from reality in order to sell ads.”
“My comments will get deleted but you bought the 15k deductible insurance and now you whine about it .You must be one of those wealthy 1%ers. The majority of americans oppose Obamacare. The web site is compelling evidence that the governmant has no place running our healtcare system.”
15Vortex on Nov 27, 2013 at 01:38:29
“You should learn to read. I said my job provides, among other choices which, for me, are worse, a 5k deductible plan. I cannot afford insurance on my own, so I am limited to the plans my job offers. I chose the 5k plan, mostly because I can pay for whatever bills I do have with pre-tax dollars, and I figure I can handle 5k and not go totally broke. In reality, this is not insurance.
As for your comments about the government running our healthcare system, the only reason the government has to step in is because of the utter mess the private sector has made of matters.
The fact of the matter is people like you are running the stories about the new law in a skewed and self serving way.
The new law is working.
No matter what you blather about it, according to your own redoubtable principles of free market economics, people will realize the exchanges offer an actual market where prices and value (I know this is confusing for someone like you, but there's a difference, between "price" and "value" I mean) have a rational connection.
Once they realize this, that they can get better plans for less money, they will opt in.
In a major shock, a Republican idea will actually work for once.
By the way, a 15k plan is really cheap because it is worthless. No 1%-er would ever "buy" one.
“To you it doesn't matter at all. To me its a shameful and deliberate coverup of
bad judgement that cost some people thier lives. It was done for the very same political reasons(obamas re-election) that you seem to object to.”
“Can it sister. There are a lot of people that can't stand the sight of him these days.
The fact that he won't discuss policy with anyone who disagrees with him is what brings on this lact of respect you seem to be so concerned with Obviously Obama isn't good at thois. His experience as a community organizer did not prepare him for managing a budget or even a web site rollout....”
“You are confused I will concede that. Your favorite president is too. He doesnt seem to know what virtually all of his staff knows about benghazi, the IRS scandal, the AP scandal, etc etc. Perhaps they could put it on teleprompter.”
“He wasnt told that no military forces were sent to Benghazi when he went to bed. It was part of an ongoing investigation and it was inappropriate to tell him that it was a 9/11 terrorist attack
Until the findings were published. It all makes sense now.”