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No Child Left Behind Worsened Education, 48 Percent Of Americans 'Very Familiar' With The Law Say In Gallup Poll

No Child Left Behind Worsened Education, 48 Percent Of Americans 'Very Familiar' With The Law Say In Gallup Poll

Commented Aug 24, 2012 at 20:30:08 in Education

“Little known consequence of NCLB: it discourages career changers, aka the people who genuinely want to do it to make a difference. As a PhD in science, the number of alternative certification routes open for people like me has been significantly reduced or eliminated.”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 14:34:11 in Parents

“True, it can take time to show up, but from how the article is written, it sounds like people were aware these children were getting burnt but did nothing because of a stupid, ill-advised policy.  When these children asked to put on sunscreen but were not allowed, that was clearly a time a sensible teacher could have called home, especially knowing one child is super sensitive to sun exposure.”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 13:59:45 in Parents

“I agree more clothing would have helped, but the article says hats were NOT allowed at school at all - even OUTSIDE.”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 13:46:49 in Parents

“Totally agree with you Beth. Zero tolerance really just means zero sense these days.”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 13:45:11 in Parents

“"If no other children are burnt then this is just a bit curious."

We actually don't know this or not.

And, to defend those who harp on the idea that it needs to be reapplied... While it is true the kids may have still had some protection for the first couple of hours, that is most likely when the sun was at its weakest. By the time their sun protection wore off, that is probably when they needed it the most. Therefore they needed to reapply. Reapplication is absolutely necessary for the very fair skinned. If I don't reapply, I will get a severe burn, even if I start the day off with sunscreen. I've been burned severely even with sunscreen reapplication, so I've learned I have to be super vigilant to reapply. I've also learned that hats/clothing are the best way to protect my skin, and it's crazy that the school wouldn't allow hats when they are outside.”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 13:31:17 in Parents

“The one girl might have 2nd degree burns.”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 13:28:03 in Parents

“The thing is, that technically could be the sunburn that causes a mutation that doesn't get repaired properly, so any given burn CAN be the one to cause cancer. True, it is very unlikely, but saying "One sunburn, even one with blisters, will not give a kid cancer" is FALSE. The correct way to say this would be: "One sunburn, even one with blisters, will PROBABLY not give a kid cancer." I speak as a geneticist, and as an undergrad I used to induce mutations in viruses with UV light.”

amystika18n on Jun 26, 2012 at 15:47:37

“Good point, sdsli. Thank you for the clarification and for being polite.”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 13:20:29 in Parents

“Thing is, if you saw these children getting burnt, and you don't want to risk the issue of violating policy, why did they not call the mom to let her know her kids desperately need sunscreen?

I'm sorry, but seeing someone in the process of getting hurt and doing nothing about it is negligence.”

Cathy Sapp on Jun 26, 2012 at 14:19:06

“I am fair skins and burn easy, but it doesn't become apparent right away. Sunburn most of the time would show up for several hours....I sometimes don't realize how long I have been in the sun when I am having fun. And I grew up in th 70-80's and never wore sunscreen. I still have a tendency to forget to wear it.”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 13:16:48 in Parents

“Geez, you keep harping on this.

Some of the other children might have gotten a little pink, too, but we don't know that. What we do know is that her children are fair and one has a type of albinism.

As a very fair person myself, I know I can burn in **10 mins** in a high UV day (my dermatogist told me I should like in Alaska or Sweden!). Very few people I know burn so quickly. These children may burn as easily/quickly as I do. Stop obsessing on this when you apparently don't understand some people are incredibly sensitive to sun exposure.”

sdsli on Jun 26, 2012 at 13:45:11

“"If no other children are burnt then this is just a bit curious."

We actually don't know this or not.

And, to defend those who harp on the idea that it needs to be reapplied... While it is true the kids may have still had some protection for the first couple of hours, that is most likely when the sun was at its weakest. By the time their sun protection wore off, that is probably when they needed it the most. Therefore they needed to reapply. Reapplication is absolutely necessary for the very fair skinned. If I don't reapply, I will get a severe burn, even if I start the day off with sunscreen. I've been burned severely even with sunscreen reapplication, so I've learned I have to be super vigilant to reapply. I've also learned that hats/clothing are the best way to protect my skin, and it's crazy that the school wouldn't allow hats when they are outside.”

weirdremaynard on Jun 26, 2012 at 13:22:29

“Sweden would be cool”

weirdremaynard on Jun 26, 2012 at 13:22:16

“All the more reason she should have put sunscreen on them! If no other children are burnt then this is just a bit curious. Doesn't really add up. I'm lucky to be mixed race so sunburns aren't much of an issue for me, but my mother still always made me wear sunblock as a child, much to my chagrin. The only reason I'm harping is because the school is being demonized unfairly for her carelessness. She should take some responsibility. ”
Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Jesse Michener, Mom, Aims To Change School Policy After Kids Are Severely Sunburned

Commented Jun 26, 2012 at 13:07:26 in Parents

“But the burns they got are much worse than what they face even with conventional sunscreen. Plus, there are some sunscreens that are much less toxic, and considering the real risks of sun damage, you have to pick the lesser of the two dangers - i.e use sunscreen.”