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McCain: Obama Created More Partisan Environment Than Bill Clinton
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 16:18:14 in Politics
“Where has McCain been? Obama has bent over backwards to get the Republicans on-board.
President Obama has on many occasions met with the GOP leaders in the WH. He talked about the concessions he was willing to make, but when Obama asked what they were willing to give in return their answer was literally nothing.
Not only have the Republicans trashed healthcare reform, lied to the public and used fear mongering to scare senior citizens they took a 180 degree turn on their own ideas that had been added to the bill.
Apparently McCain forgot about the Gang of Six assigned to negotiate a healthcare bill. It was comprised of three Democrats and three Republicans: Enzi, Grassley and Snowe who did nothing but delay and delay and delay for months on end. Never mind that over 100 of their ideas were added to the bill they still refused to vote for it.
If McCain had actually made an effort to work in a bi-partisanship way he might have some credibility, but he cannot even acknowledge the fact that Republicans refuse to negotiate or even act as a loyal opposition party. McCain's arrogant hypocrisy knows no bounds.”
President Obama has on many occasions met with the GOP leaders in the WH. He talked about the concessions he was willing to make, but when Obama asked what they were willing to give in return their answer was literally nothing.
Not only have the Republicans trashed healthcare reform, lied to the public and used fear mongering to scare senior citizens they took a 180 degree turn on their own ideas that had been added to the bill.
Apparently McCain forgot about the Gang of Six assigned to negotiate a healthcare bill. It was comprised of three Democrats and three Republicans: Enzi, Grassley and Snowe who did nothing but delay and delay and delay for months on end. Never mind that over 100 of their ideas were added to the bill they still refused to vote for it.
If McCain had actually made an effort to work in a bi-partisanship way he might have some credibility, but he cannot even acknowledge the fact that Republicans refuse to negotiate or even act as a loyal opposition party. McCain's arrogant hypocrisy knows no bounds.”
Betsy replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 16:26:49
“Whomever assigned opposers of HC to negotiate HC deserves a swift kick between the back pockets.”
KOisGod replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 16:21:17
“Thank you, summed it up perfectly.”
McCain: Palin Visor Black-Out Makes Sense To Me
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 13:59:31 in Politics
“You are absolutely correct. Blaming Obama for weakened, watered-down bills that get passed in the senate is reflexive. The real problem is that America's political system is broken. Between centre-right Democrats (Baccus, Nelson, Stupak, etc...) and the Republicans' ruthless opposition it is a wonder anything gets passed.
If progressives and liberals stay home during the mid-term elections, then we can forget about changing the status quo.”
If progressives and liberals stay home during the mid-term elections, then we can forget about changing the status quo.”
jemiltd replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 14:21:00
“Just sent to all of my Congress people:
I am of the belief that the President cannot evoke change without Congress helping him to do so. Therefore I will be looking for an Al #Franken mentality to vote for in 2010 and going forward. We need representation that is genuinely for the people of this country not for partisan schoolyard games. By the way, if you aren't for #HCR, I respectfully and publicly request that you relinquish your government provided health insurance and buy your own out of your own pocket. That would be the right thing to do; hypocrisy does not look good on you.”
I am of the belief that the President cannot evoke change without Congress helping him to do so. Therefore I will be looking for an Al #Franken mentality to vote for in 2010 and going forward. We need representation that is genuinely for the people of this country not for partisan schoolyard games. By the way, if you aren't for #HCR, I respectfully and publicly request that you relinquish your government provided health insurance and buy your own out of your own pocket. That would be the right thing to do; hypocrisy does not look good on you.”
Limbaugh Calls For "Massive Bombing Raids," War With Iran (AUDIO)
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 16:53:46 in World
“Mosby come on do you really believe Iran would commit instantaneous suicide? The US would annihilate Iran in a New York second. Iran has not attacked another nation for over 200 years and is not about to now.
If Iran did acquire a nuclear weapon, considering the close proximity of nuclear-armed countries such as India, Pakistan, China, Russia and Israel, it would be for deterrence or defense.
Furthermore Iran is a signatory and in full compliance with the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPT) whereas Israel has an arsenal of 300-400 nuclear bombs is not a signatory.
Bombing Iran would be a willful, immoral, reprehensible distraction that would do nothing but bring massive death and incite deeper hatred against America and Israel. But Limbaugh, being the hothead he is, does not care about that.
It is easy to start wars; it is much more difficult to communicate diplomatic wisdom. The former displays weakness, the latter, strength. Real solutions are found thru communication, diplomacy and negotiation. In contrast war feeds the very thing it set-out to destroy. Security and safety necessitates respect for human rights and the rule of law to achieve what war cannot.”
If Iran did acquire a nuclear weapon, considering the close proximity of nuclear-armed countries such as India, Pakistan, China, Russia and Israel, it would be for deterrence or defense.
Furthermore Iran is a signatory and in full compliance with the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPT) whereas Israel has an arsenal of 300-400 nuclear bombs is not a signatory.
Bombing Iran would be a willful, immoral, reprehensible distraction that would do nothing but bring massive death and incite deeper hatred against America and Israel. But Limbaugh, being the hothead he is, does not care about that.
It is easy to start wars; it is much more difficult to communicate diplomatic wisdom. The former displays weakness, the latter, strength. Real solutions are found thru communication, diplomacy and negotiation. In contrast war feeds the very thing it set-out to destroy. Security and safety necessitates respect for human rights and the rule of law to achieve what war cannot.”
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 18, 2009 at 20:00:43 in Politics
“Reconciliation only allows budgetary items to be in the bill. To go through reconciliation means losing insurance regulations, delivery reforms, etc... It would also require going back to the drawing board which gives more time for the opposition to work against reforming healthcare.”
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 18, 2009 at 19:57:04 in Politics
“Yes I know that. It is frustrating.”
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 18, 2009 at 18:17:52 in Politics
“I agree that he could have used the pulpit more wisely, but that would not have changed the reality in the Senate.
And I agree with you on 99%. Where we diverge is tort reform. I live in Texas. We were promised lower insurance rates if we passed tort reform. Our insurance premiums did not go down, they went up.”
And I agree with you on 99%. Where we diverge is tort reform. I live in Texas. We were promised lower insurance rates if we passed tort reform. Our insurance premiums did not go down, they went up.”
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 18, 2009 at 18:07:50 in Politics
“PhARMA agreed to cut $80 billion in costs over the next ten years. Insofar as importing drugs the FDA just got funding to address the safety concerns and will start putting an infrastructure in place to import drugs from Canada. (to sell drugs in the US, overseas manufacturing facilities are required to meet the same standards as here.)”
Steven Duke replied on Dec 18, 2009 at 18:18:02
“yeah, cause those Canadians are dropping like flies. Come on, most of the medications are made outside the US anyhow.”
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 18, 2009 at 17:53:34 in Politics
“And exactly how was he supposed to do that?
Lieberman had supported the Medicare buy-in, but changed his mind at the last minute.
Since the Democrats need 60 votes to overcome a Republican filibuster there is no one else.”
Lieberman had supported the Medicare buy-in, but changed his mind at the last minute.
Since the Democrats need 60 votes to overcome a Republican filibuster there is no one else.”
Angela Green replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 16:26:09
“Well, for starters they could have FORCED the rethugs to filibuster. The WH could have acted like they actually CARED. This BS bill is worse than doing nothing. Its crap. And the WH is touting it like its some great wonderful cure all - and all it is, is a gift to the insurance industy. yay obama. gee, thanks.”
chopel replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 01:09:50
“"I am not sure exactly what Obama could have done to get Lieberman or any of the others on board."
It seems to me if Obama had started the debate pressing for single-payer, Lieberman (and the other 'conserva-dems') would have been in a position where they would have settled for a robust public option and we could have gotten real reform.
The most generous interpretation is that Obama has grossly mismanaged this debate (the centerpiece of his first term agenda, mind you) from day one. In which case he loses a handful of supporters who now see him as not being the effective leader they'd hoped he'd be. The more damaging interpretation is that Obama has willingly sold out average Americans in favor of catering to corporate special interests. In which case he loses a huge number of supporters who now see as being a fraud.
Seems to me the court of public opinion.. among progressiv es.. is leaning in the direction of the more damaging interpretation.”
It seems to me if Obama had started the debate pressing for single-payer, Lieberman (and the other 'conserva-dems') would have been in a position where they would have settled for a robust public option and we could have gotten real reform.
The most generous interpretation is that Obama has grossly mismanaged this debate (the centerpiece of his first term agenda, mind you) from day one. In which case he loses a handful of supporters who now see him as not being the effective leader they'd hoped he'd be. The more damaging interpretation is that Obama has willingly sold out average Americans in favor of catering to corporate special interests. In which case he loses a huge number of supporters who now see as being a fraud.
Seems to me the court of public opinion.. among progressiv
alysheba 3 replied on Dec 18, 2009 at 19:10:43
“Have you ever heard of Reconciliation?”
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 18, 2009 at 17:45:02 in Politics
“I agree.
Furthermore people are rejecting a bill that has not even gone to conference where it will (hopefully) be improved on. That is IF it makes it to conference.”
Furthermore people are rejecting a bill that has not even gone to conference where it will (hopefully) be improved on. That is IF it makes it to conference.”
President Obama Loses His Base: He Just Ran Out of Slack
Commented Dec 18, 2009 at 16:57:37 in Politics
“Like most Iam disappointed, but Iam also not going to abandon President Obama.
Iam not sure exactly what Obama could have done to get Lieberman or any of the others on board. With the Republican obstruction and opposition to every piece of legislation Obama and the Democratic caucus have been forced to make compromises with centrist Democrats and/or the only two centrist Republicans.
For instance Senator Nelson is the 60th vote on healthcare reform, but has now decided not to vote for it. The bill itself is not a bad bill, but it certainly needs to be improved upon. At least 30 million people would have had health insurance. However now that Nelson has thrown a monkey wrench into the process healthcare reform may be jettisoned. Placing the blame on Obama is misguided.
Iam not giving up on our President.”
Iam not sure exactly what Obama could have done to get Lieberman or any of the others on board. With the Republican obstruction and opposition to every piece of legislation Obama and the Democratic caucus have been forced to make compromises with centrist Democrats and/or the only two centrist Republicans.
For instance Senator Nelson is the 60th vote on healthcare reform, but has now decided not to vote for it. The bill itself is not a bad bill, but it certainly needs to be improved upon. At least 30 million people would have had health insurance. However now that Nelson has thrown a monkey wrench into the process healthcare reform may be jettisoned. Placing the blame on Obama is misguided.
Iam not giving up on our President.”
Angela Green replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 16:24:15
“This bill actually is a VERY bad bill, and is WORSE than doing nothing at all. This administration bent over for the repubs and liberman, and apparently could caree less about real reform. They just want something to sign. Its a load.”
Flavor replied on Dec 18, 2009 at 18:17:27
“Neither am i, going to abandon him, i am a loyal supporter but he does need to talk to the people.”
verycold replied on Dec 18, 2009 at 18:01:14
“As a conservative, this is how I see the cards stacking up. Obama should have backed single pay system from Day 1. That is what he thinks personally is the right approach. SO PROVE IT . If he is such a smart man then he should have used the pulpit more wisely and spoken some simple facts. So the single pay system works because... .... Instead he was wishy washy and seemed from Day 1 to just want to get any bill, no matter the contents, on his desk to sign.
I really hate to break it to you, but this presidency is not about YOU, but about Barack Obama. He recently graded himself a B+, maybe a weak A- if he gets this health care insurance reform passed. The audacity of this president giving himself almost a perfect score when his poll numbers on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE are low with all voters.
All I wanted to see with this health care reform was lower premium costs, insurance to be portable, tort reform, access to those with pre-existing conditions and CLEAN UP Medicare and Medicaid.”
I really hate to break it to you, but this presidency is not about YOU, but about Barack Obama. He recently graded himself a B+, maybe a weak A- if he gets this health care insurance reform passed. The audacity of this president giving himself almost a perfect score when his poll numbers on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE are low with all voters.
All I wanted to see with this health care reform was lower premium costs, insurance to be portable, tort reform, access to those with pre-existing conditions and CLEAN UP Medicare and Medicaid.”
Estreet1964 replied on Dec 18, 2009 at 17:45:15
“Can we place the blame on Obama for his secret get together with Big Pharma and the insurance cabal to take single payer and drug re-importation off the table then?
How do you excuse that?
I'm not giving up on him either. That's why I'm asking him to live up to the ideals he campaigned on. I think he has the talent to do great things for this country. But you can't change Washington by getting into bed with the corporate criminals who run it.”
How do you excuse that?
I'm not giving up on him either. That's why I'm asking him to live up to the ideals he campaigned on. I think he has the talent to do great things for this country. But you can't change Washington by getting into bed with the corporate criminals who run it.”
Mij13 replied on Dec 18, 2009 at 17:39:49
“You're not sure what Obama could have done to get Lieberman on board? How about not giving him everything he wanted before he even asked for it?”
niblik replied on Dec 18, 2009 at 17:15:32
“I'm unhappy with how things have gone with Health Care Reform recently but I honestly think that scrapping the bill and starting over means that we won't see any reform this election cycle.”
Banks Could Heed Obama's Call To Lend More -- If They Wanted To
Commented Dec 15, 2009 at 02:36:20 in Business
“In every respect the government is supposed to protect the health of our economy and the welfare of its citizens.
Those who promote deregulation ignore the human element: the market place, businesses and government cannot operate without human direction. When left to their own devices and with human nature being what it is temptation is hard to resist. Unfettered by regulations and oversight bankers, lenders and financial leaders got careless, reckless, greedy and took unnecessary risks. As a result overnight $40 Trillion disappeared in one fell swoop.
Regulation and oversight are the means necessary to keep the economy stable; bankers, financiers and lenders accountable; consumers, investors and businesses protected. With safeguards in place it will be easier to head-off foreseeable problems or perhaps soften the blow of an inevitable cataclysmic event.
But naysayers don't want government interference in any respect (except in our bedrooms) insist on deregulated markets despite the incalculable damage its caused.
However without regulations, safe-guards and consumer protections, who will bail us, the taxpayers, out the next time greedy risk-takers get out of control and the economy tanks? If not the government, who or what then?”
Those who promote deregulation ignore the human element: the market place, businesses and government cannot operate without human direction. When left to their own devices and with human nature being what it is temptation is hard to resist. Unfettered by regulations and oversight bankers, lenders and financial leaders got careless, reckless, greedy and took unnecessary risks. As a result overnight $40 Trillion disappeared in one fell swoop.
Regulation and oversight are the means necessary to keep the economy stable; bankers, financiers and lenders accountable; consumers, investors and businesses protected. With safeguards in place it will be easier to head-off foreseeable problems or perhaps soften the blow of an inevitable cataclysmic event.
But naysayers don't want government interference in any respect (except in our bedrooms) insist on deregulated markets despite the incalculable damage its caused.
However without regulations, safe-guards and consumer protections, who will bail us, the taxpayers, out the next time greedy risk-takers get out of control and the economy tanks? If not the government, who or what then?”
dtlewis replied on Dec 15, 2009 at 11:46:22
“You've just condensed the bulk of conservative thought (and I use the term loosely) to its essence. Well said. fanned.”
Banks Could Heed Obama's Call To Lend More -- If They Wanted To
Commented Dec 15, 2009 at 02:20:19 in Business
“flossophy
In every respect the government is supposed to protect the health of our economy and the welfare of its citizens.
Those who promote deregulation ignore the human element: the market place, businesses and government cannot operate without human direction. When left to their own devices and with human nature being what it is temptation is hard to resist. Unfettered by regulations and oversight bankers, lenders and financial leaders got careless, reckless, greedy and took unnecessary risks. As a result overnight $40 Trillion disappeared in one fell swoop.
Regulation and oversight are the means necessary to keep the economy stable; bankers, financiers and lenders accountable; consumers, investors and businesses protected. With safeguards in place it will be easier to head-off foreseeable problems or perhaps soften the blow of an inevitable cataclysmic event.
But naysayers don't want government interference in any respect (except in our bedrooms) insist on deregulated markets despite the incalculable damage its caused.
However without regulations, safe-guards and consumer protections, who will bail us, the taxpayers, out the next time greedy risk-takers get out of control and the economy tanks? If not the government, who or what then?”
In every respect the government is supposed to protect the health of our economy and the welfare of its citizens.
Those who promote deregulation ignore the human element: the market place, businesses and government cannot operate without human direction. When left to their own devices and with human nature being what it is temptation is hard to resist. Unfettered by regulations and oversight bankers, lenders and financial leaders got careless, reckless, greedy and took unnecessary risks. As a result overnight $40 Trillion disappeared in one fell swoop.
Regulation and oversight are the means necessary to keep the economy stable; bankers, financiers and lenders accountable; consumers, investors and businesses protected. With safeguards in place it will be easier to head-off foreseeable problems or perhaps soften the blow of an inevitable cataclysmic event.
But naysayers don't want government interference in any respect (except in our bedrooms) insist on deregulated markets despite the incalculable damage its caused.
However without regulations, safe-guards and consumer protections, who will bail us, the taxpayers, out the next time greedy risk-takers get out of control and the economy tanks? If not the government, who or what then?”
flossophy replied on Dec 15, 2009 at 02:40:07
“You put too much faith in government. It is a h0rrible regulator and doesn't know how to spend money responsibly.
Government caused the Great_Depr ession... and it caused this Great Recession.
And yet you think more government will solve our problems. If we don't learn the lessons of history, we will keep repeating these regulatory mistakes.”
Government caused the Great_Depr
And yet you think more government will solve our problems. If we don't learn the lessons of history, we will keep repeating these regulatory mistakes.”
GOP Purity Test Echoes Berlin in 1933
Commented Dec 14, 2009 at 15:37:48 in Politics
“That ought to alarm anyone who thinks staying home in 2010 is a good idea. If liberals and progressives refuse to vote, then nothing will get done not even watered down legislation will get passed.
If the Republicans do somehow (god forbid) gain back majorities in either House or both they will try to turn the clock back. Then Americans will suffer even more than now.
Furthermore Republicans are still in denial. They refuse to admit their policies have not worked. Now that the gauntlet has been laid down, where only the candidates who pass the GOP purity test are deserving of votes who knows what will happen. Given how much the ultra right is fired-up it is possible they could win more seats and they'll never change which is why sitting out the election doesn't make sense.”
If the Republicans do somehow (god forbid) gain back majorities in either House or both they will try to turn the clock back. Then Americans will suffer even more than now.
Furthermore Republicans are still in denial. They refuse to admit their policies have not worked. Now that the gauntlet has been laid down, where only the candidates who pass the GOP purity test are deserving of votes who knows what will happen. Given how much the ultra right is fired-up it is possible they could win more seats and they'll never change which is why sitting out the election doesn't make sense.”
Bailey Reynolds replied on Dec 15, 2009 at 09:30:16
“This shows how out of touch with reality Republicans are. Purity tests will only hasten the end of the GOP as we've known it. It will grow more and more splintered, regional and impotent. I say that's a good thing.”
Russ Feingold, Ninja
Commented Dec 13, 2009 at 01:19:46 in Politics
“Senator Feingold is a gem. I was hoping he would have run for president, but he is probably too progressive for the general population, although I don't know why.
At any rate whenever conservatives give press conferences, hit the TV talk show circuits, etc... I have wondered why the democrats are not out there rebutting their falsehoods and lies. Granted they have gotten better at it, but they still need to do it more often because a lot of democratic and independent voters who only hear one side buy into the republican's BS. And by the time the democrats do (if they do) counter it, it is generally too late -- the story has already become conventional wisdom.
Look at what happened in the healthcare debate over the summer. Thankfully the democrats jumped in before it was too late. Nevertheless they should have done so sooner IMHO.
Good for Russ. We need more like him in Washington.”
At any rate whenever conservatives give press conferences, hit the TV talk show circuits, etc... I have wondered why the democrats are not out there rebutting their falsehoods and lies. Granted they have gotten better at it, but they still need to do it more often because a lot of democratic and independent voters who only hear one side buy into the republican's BS. And by the time the democrats do (if they do) counter it, it is generally too late -- the story has already become conventional wisdom.
Look at what happened in the healthcare debate over the summer. Thankfully the democrats jumped in before it was too late. Nevertheless they should have done so sooner IMHO.
Good for Russ. We need more like him in Washington.”
Wayne Hackler replied on Dec 13, 2009 at 08:46:12
“I'm proud that Mr. Feingold is my senator. I would love nothing more than for him to become the POTUS. But in the current political scheme of things, it can't happen for several reasons. First, because he's Jewish, and far too many Christians and Christian Fundamentalists see Jewish people as being below them, the wrong religion, etc. I've seen it within my own family so it's there. Secondly, he's divorced. The "family values" talking heads will make that the primary issue, rather than credibility, ability and desire to truly do good for the AMERICAN PEOPLE. For what it's worth, he's also one of the poorest members of the Senate. Get that? He's a regular American, like us. His pockets aren't lined by transnational corporations in the way most other Senators and Representatives are.
Senator Feingold is a good and decent man, who shoots straight and doesn't talk in circles the way his peers do. He also has true American values, and not values espoused to the ignorant like some "faux" news organizations do. I would fight for this man. He truly does look out for all of us, and not just the big campaign contributors.”
Senator Feingold is a good and decent man, who shoots straight and doesn't talk in circles the way his peers do. He also has true American values, and not values espoused to the ignorant like some "faux" news organizations do. I would fight for this man. He truly does look out for all of us, and not just the big campaign contributors.”
Palin To Speak At Fundraiser For Canadian Hospital (UPDATED)
Commented Dec 12, 2009 at 05:21:28 in Politics
“mockley
Iam really surprised that a Canadian hospital would ask someone as diametrically opposed to Canada's hc system as is Sarah to come speak. Apparently Macaluso, the guy who booked her, said her fee is around $200,000.
Are there any Canadians who really have an interest in hearing her speak?
If Sarah starts railing against Canada's "socialist" hc system, abortion rights etc. I would tend to think that would embarrass the hospital that is hosting her speech not to mention Canada !”
Iam really surprised that a Canadian hospital would ask someone as diametrically opposed to Canada's hc system as is Sarah to come speak. Apparently Macaluso, the guy who booked her, said her fee is around $200,000.
Are there any Canadians who really have an interest in hearing her speak?
If Sarah starts railing against Canada's "socialist" hc system, abortion rights etc. I would tend to think that would embarrass the hospital that is hosting her speech not to mention Canada !”
Keeping Everybody Happy
Commented Dec 12, 2009 at 03:40:01 in Politics
“You are absolutely correct: there is no "free" market. Government is supposed to serve people, not corporations. However Washington has lost sight of the fact that people and corporations can mutually benefit. But as it is set-up now the free market is pushing workers down and destroying the chance to improve their lot in life.
Granted businesses are in business to make profit. Corporations complain they cannot compete on a global level if they have to pay Americans high wages so they go to foreign countries where labour laws are basically non-existent. Their employees including children are forced to work long, long hours for pennies on the dollar under horrendous working conditions. As a consequence corporations have not hesitated to use this leverage to force American workers to accept lower wages especially during the current economic situation.
This is unlikely to change as long as candidates have to raise millions of dollars to get elected. That is why I strongly advocate campaign finance reform first because I doubt our politicians have the political will to reform "free"-trade. Otherwise jobs and wages along with our lifestyle in America will keep declining. And upward mobility -- which is already at a standstill -- becomes a thing of the past for everyone everywhere.”
Granted businesses are in business to make profit. Corporations complain they cannot compete on a global level if they have to pay Americans high wages so they go to foreign countries where labour laws are basically non-existent. Their employees including children are forced to work long, long hours for pennies on the dollar under horrendous working conditions. As a consequence corporations have not hesitated to use this leverage to force American workers to accept lower wages especially during the current economic situation.
This is unlikely to change as long as candidates have to raise millions of dollars to get elected. That is why I strongly advocate campaign finance reform first because I doubt our politicians have the political will to reform "free"-trade. Otherwise jobs and wages along with our lifestyle in America will keep declining. And upward mobility -- which is already at a standstill -- becomes a thing of the past for everyone everywhere.”
Pelosi Backs Off Public Option
Commented Dec 11, 2009 at 00:25:11 in Politics
“Thank You. And yes I agree if Howard Dean, Wiener, Rockefeller and a few others are saying good things about it, I do have hope. Didn't Dean say something tonight, too, about the PO had been so watered down that it would not be effective.
What worries me though is the bill may not be filibuster-proof. So if this bill does not get through to conference what then?”
What worries me though is the bill may not be filibuster-proof. So if this bill does not get through to conference what then?”
Pelosi Backs Off Public Option
Commented Dec 10, 2009 at 23:39:52 in Politics
“Shouldn't we hold-off making a judgment until we know exactly what is in the Senate version first?
Personally I thought Pelosi sounded reasonable. If it turns out that there is a better way of containing costs and keeping insurance companies accountable, then great. We'll just have to wait and see what is in the bill. Furthermore we don't know yet what the CBO score is either.
However I do suggest we need to keep the pressure on our Senators and Congressional reps to get the best bill possible that helps everyone.”
Personally I thought Pelosi sounded reasonable. If it turns out that there is a better way of containing costs and keeping insurance companies accountable, then great. We'll just have to wait and see what is in the bill. Furthermore we don't know yet what the CBO score is either.
However I do suggest we need to keep the pressure on our Senators and Congressional reps to get the best bill possible that helps everyone.”
escribacat replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 23:52:56
“Well said. Howard Dean was on Rachel Maddow tonight, saying he thought the bill was a breakthrough. Rockefeller and Wiener are also liking the bill. We don't know the exact details but if those guys are happy with it, that makes me very optimistic. The headline on this story is designed to generate anger and clicks.”
rkreyn replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 23:41:35
“The have already told us. If you are a middle class family you are on your own.”
PalmSpringsLivin replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 23:41:13
“No, not really. Because even wht's being contemplated stinks.”
Sarah Palin: WaPo Faces Heat For Running Op-Ed
Commented Dec 09, 2009 at 19:16:19 in Media
“Well said... and fanned”
Pure Insanity: Making Sense Of 'News' And Politics
Commented Dec 09, 2009 at 02:56:25 in Media
“Great piece Dave. I cannot help but get frustrated as h.e.l.l. with our politicians' and the media's lack of integrity. The hypocrisy, the falsehoods, lies and deceptions abound.
What passes for journalism today is nonsensical BS. Newspapers print commentaries, opinions, editorials that are not even based on facts. The latest example is the WaPo published Palin's op-ed on climate change. On the most part cable "news" show hosts, pundits, journalists just make stuff up, exaggerate trivial issues, make mountains out of molehills, elevate people like Sarah Palin, allow politicians to make the most inane and insane remarks without questioning or challenging them on it ... the list goes on and on and on...
And equally or maybe more frustrating are the audience members who take what they say as gospel.”
What passes for journalism today is nonsensical BS. Newspapers print commentaries, opinions, editorials that are not even based on facts. The latest example is the WaPo published Palin's op-ed on climate change. On the most part cable "news" show hosts, pundits, journalists just make stuff up, exaggerate trivial issues, make mountains out of molehills, elevate people like Sarah Palin, allow politicians to make the most inane and insane remarks without questioning or challenging them on it ... the list goes on and on and on...
And equally or maybe more frustrating are the audience members who take what they say as gospel.”
Laws456 replied on Dec 09, 2009 at 15:12:49
“I agree that too many people take their favorite commentators words as gospel when people like me know that they're straight out lying. But I think the coverage of the news is what's most frustrating. The amount of time spent covering Tiger Woods, balloon boy, Kanye West, Joe Wilson, Sarah Palin etc is what drives me crazy. When was the last time we got a status report on the troop levels in Iraq? Why do stories like Blackwater using taxpayer funds only get covered in a 6 minute segment? (I know Keith and Rachel have devoted time to this)”
raindrips replied on Dec 09, 2009 at 14:50:22
“At least the Palin piece was identified as an op-ed, and i have no problem with her claiming the earth is flat in that forum, if the wapo thinks thats of interest.
I've been in the UK for a couple of months and the difference is striking. There, political leaders (not so much pundits) appear with interviewers, and they get asked good questions, and the interviewers actually challenge the answers. And let them reply! It's very informative. (But they all tend to apologize for everything all the time, which gets a bit tiresome.)
I'm so sick of "interviews" that are just forums for electeds to repeat their talking points..
Unfortunately the demise of newspapers and rise of opinion shows means there's hardly anyone left that is competent to conduct an intelligent , probing interview any more.”
I've been in the UK for a couple of months and the difference is striking. There, political leaders (not so much pundits) appear with interviewers, and they get asked good questions, and the interviewers actually challenge the answers. And let them reply! It's very informative. (But they all tend to apologize for everything all the time, which gets a bit tiresome.)
I'm so sick of "interviews" that are just forums for electeds to repeat their talking points..
Unfortunately the demise of newspapers and rise of opinion shows means there's hardly anyone left that is competent to conduct an intelligent , probing interview any more.”
Breakthrough: Health Care Talks Advance In Senate
Commented Dec 09, 2009 at 00:11:58 in Politics
“I understand this is extremely important to all of us, however, we do not know yet what is actually in the bill.
The public option may have been renamed or maybe it has been eliminated altogether or perhaps replaced with something else (hopefully) to keep costs down. If it doesn't people are going to be rightfully angry.
Until we know whether this ends up as another huge giveaway to the insurance companies or if it is designed to help the people of this country, let's take a breath and not freak out.
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The public option may have been renamed or maybe it has been eliminated altogether or perhaps replaced with something else (hopefully) to keep costs down. If it doesn't people are going to be rightfully angry.
Until we know whether this ends up as another huge giveaway to the insurance companies or if it is designed to help the people of this country, let's take a breath and not freak out.
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goodog replied on Dec 09, 2009 at 00:26:10
“I distincly remember people demanding, "Give us what they got, Federal Employee Health Benefits"
I would have a hard time being opposed to it.”
I would have a hard time being opposed to it.”
hp blogger Joe The Nerd Ferraro replied on Dec 09, 2009 at 00:15:40
“this is 7 yards and a cloud of dust -
we need to let the dust settle for a day.”
we need to let the dust settle for a day.”
The Irrefutable Stupidity of Sarah Palin
Commented Dec 08, 2009 at 02:53:51 in Politics
“DaveyNC
The idea that criticism is the equivalent of hatred was a Karl Rove invention purposely used as a way to stifle opposition and keep debate at a minimum. Critics (mainly democrats, liberals) were fiercely attacked even called traitors and dissent was equated to hatred and at times referred to as treasonous. So by defining critical assessments of Bush's policy decisions as hate-speech and labeling dissenters Bush-haters, Rove managed to skillfully turn political discourse into an illogical, unintelligible rancorous street fight.
Sarah along with her supporters tries to silence her critics in much the same way.
While I agree rude and inappropriate comments have been made on both sides, please re_member disagreement, scrutiny and/or criticism do not constitute hate-speech and should never be defined as such. They are necessary for a healthy democracy.
If we cannot voice our opinions, disagreements, criticisms without attacking one another or engage in civil, intellectual dialogue without resorting to a street fight driven by ignorant, ideological certitude we'll never solve the major problems facing the country.”
The idea that criticism is the equivalent of hatred was a Karl Rove invention purposely used as a way to stifle opposition and keep debate at a minimum. Critics (mainly democrats, liberals) were fiercely attacked even called traitors and dissent was equated to hatred and at times referred to as treasonous. So by defining critical assessments of Bush's policy decisions as hate-speech and labeling dissenters Bush-haters, Rove managed to skillfully turn political discourse into an illogical, unintelligible rancorous street fight.
Sarah along with her supporters tries to silence her critics in much the same way.
While I agree rude and inappropriate comments have been made on both sides, please re_member disagreement, scrutiny and/or criticism do not constitute hate-speech and should never be defined as such. They are necessary for a healthy democracy.
If we cannot voice our opinions, disagreements, criticisms without attacking one another or engage in civil, intellectual dialogue without resorting to a street fight driven by ignorant, ideological certitude we'll never solve the major problems facing the country.”
DaveyNC replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 13:08:48
“Serena, I'm not talking about criticism. Cenk's article constitutes criticism, if a bit on the expressive side. What I am talking about is the "Palin is a C---" shirts, hanging her in effigy, the unending supply of "F--- Palin" comments and blog posts that abound on teh internets. You know, that hate.”
John McCain Gets Mad On Senate Floor During Health Care Debate (VIDEO)
Commented Dec 06, 2009 at 21:55:41 in Politics
“John McCain was on a tirade complaining that he did not know what the deal is regarding Medicare cost-savings and Baucus was merely trying to explain it to him.
However it appears that McCain had no interest in learning "what the deal is" he just wanted to rant instead. So it is no wonder that McCain is one of the least informed Senators in the Senate. He doesn't listen; he throws tantrums over things he knows nothing about.”
However it appears that McCain had no interest in learning "what the deal is" he just wanted to rant instead. So it is no wonder that McCain is one of the least informed Senators in the Senate. He doesn't listen; he throws tantrums over things he knows nothing about.”
John McCain Gets Mad On Senate Floor During Health Care Debate (VIDEO)
Commented Dec 06, 2009 at 21:16:22 in Politics
“Apparently John McCain has forgotten about the dozens of lobbyists he hired to run his campaign last year and the millions of dollars he's raked in from lobbyists.
McCain is so quick to anger; he's had a problem with it his entire life. As a child he would hold his breath until his face turned blue and passed out. Even his long-time friend, Sen. Thad Cochran (R - Mississippi) had this to say last year: "[McCain] is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me." In this particular video, however, McCain comes off as a pussycat compared to his usual rants.
McCain sails whichever direction the political winds are blowing. He'll say anything that is politically convenient. It is difficult to keep up with the number of times he has taken a stand on an issue only to do a 180 later. Just a year ago McCain was for cutting the waste in Medicare, now all of a sudden he is against it, but before that he wanted to privatize Medicare. He was for immigration reform and energy reform now he is against both. Those are only 3 examples out of many many more.
How can you trust a man who does not stand on principle or truth?
Simply put John McCain is an "erratic hotheaded" hypocrite.”
McCain is so quick to anger; he's had a problem with it his entire life. As a child he would hold his breath until his face turned blue and passed out. Even his long-time friend, Sen. Thad Cochran (R - Mississippi) had this to say last year: "[McCain] is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me." In this particular video, however, McCain comes off as a pussycat compared to his usual rants.
McCain sails whichever direction the political winds are blowing. He'll say anything that is politically convenient. It is difficult to keep up with the number of times he has taken a stand on an issue only to do a 180 later. Just a year ago McCain was for cutting the waste in Medicare, now all of a sudden he is against it, but before that he wanted to privatize Medicare. He was for immigration reform and energy reform now he is against both. Those are only 3 examples out of many many more.
How can you trust a man who does not stand on principle or truth?
Simply put John McCain is an "erratic hotheaded" hypocrite.”
Where Was the Fed?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:36:01 in Business
“Senator Sanders, I agree it is time for someone new.
While Bernake did manage to ward off an economic collapse, we still don't know how much tax-payer money he dolled-out to other countries or even what agreements he made. What we do know is that Bernake sent half a trillion dollars to central foreign banks, but admitted he has no idea what those banks did with the money. Some are inclined to believe the amount could be several trillion dollars. ♠ Although Bernake's adamant opposition against auditing the fed has merit, under the circumstances the pros outweigh the cons.
Furthermore it is absolutely baffling why bankers and financial leaders have not been investigated. Because what they did caused a $40 trillion loss of global wealth and 100 million people worldwide to lose their jobs while taking 100s of billions of dollars in bonuses is nothing short of criminal. Yet they've stepped up their lobbying efforts to kill finance reform.
The US cannot afford to bail-out the world again which is only a matter of time before another financial crisis occurs. Since Bernake is unwilling to do what needs to be done, he needs to be replaced ... the sooner, the better.”
While Bernake did manage to ward off an economic collapse, we still don't know how much tax-payer money he dolled-out to other countries or even what agreements he made. What we do know is that Bernake sent half a trillion dollars to central foreign banks, but admitted he has no idea what those banks did with the money. Some are inclined to believe the amount could be several trillion dollars. ♠ Although Bernake's adamant opposition against auditing the fed has merit, under the circumstances the pros outweigh the cons.
Furthermore it is absolutely baffling why bankers and financial leaders have not been investigated. Because what they did caused a $40 trillion loss of global wealth and 100 million people worldwide to lose their jobs while taking 100s of billions of dollars in bonuses is nothing short of criminal. Yet they've stepped up their lobbying efforts to kill finance reform.
The US cannot afford to bail-out the world again which is only a matter of time before another financial crisis occurs. Since Bernake is unwilling to do what needs to be done, he needs to be replaced ... the sooner, the better.”


