“No, all of the supposed damaging stuff already came out in the trial, while the evidence that painted quite a different picture of St. Trayvon was withheld.”
amanda6 on Jul 27, 2013 at 15:05:11
“Did all that stuff about the martial arts classes, restraining order by his girl friend, assault against a police officer, sexual assault of a girl relative, the number of 911 racist calls about only blacks come out? I do think it came out that he got an A in the "stand your ground class." ”
MelRoy on Jul 27, 2013 at 03:34:28
“- He was taking a cocktail of prescription drugs that would have disqualified him from doing lots of jobs including but not limited to pilot, truck driver, lathe operator and security guard - and carrying a fully-loaded gun with no safety and a bullet in the chamber.
- He knew the police were on their way; in fact, Tim Smith was there 20 seconds after the shot. Witnesses saw the polices' flashlights simultaneous to the shot. Zimmerman knew help was a moment away.
- Zimmerman's physical injuries were insufficient to claim he had a "reasonable belief" of imminent death or grave bodily harm.
- The physical fight was preceded by a verbal argument. He wasn't "sucker-punched".
- "He ran". As in "ran away".
- "Looking for an address" my eye. He was looking for Martin.
- "Didn't know if (Martin) was armed"? Of course he knew he wasn't armed. He would not have pursued if he thought he was armed.
- He claims to have been simultaneously pinned down, pummeled and smothered.
Perhaps most important of all is the position he put TM in after the shot. TM's death wasn't instantaneous. He may have lived if Zimmerman didn't put him face down, spread his arms out and climbed on his back. He cut off his oxygen. This also indicates that Zimmerman had physical strength, was fully cognizant and was not afraid immediately after he shot TM - a fearful, confused, injured, weak person could not do what Zimmerman did.”
gonzie46 on Jul 27, 2013 at 03:05:00
“Doesn't change the fact that GZ is a batterer, domestic abuser and an accused molester (by a family member) GZ has a history of violence and he got away with them very time, nice when you have a dad that is a Judge”
KAO22 on Jul 27, 2013 at 02:58:38
“None of GZ's history of arrest, restraining order, or medication came out in trial.”
123bugmenot on Jul 27, 2013 at 02:56:13
“Incorrect. You live in a teabagger hate fog.”
disgusted2012 on Jul 27, 2013 at 02:48:02
No, your Lord and Savour did not have all of his dirt entered into the trial, talk about unflattering I say bring it on!!”
“How are you not seeing this? Are you just wilfully ignorant? The Earth is 4.54 Billion years old. Life started out about 3.8 billion years ago. Simple single cell organisms, but life nonetheless. The earth started to be similar to the way it is now(climate, atmosphere content, plants and animals etc) a little less than a billion years ago. Rough estimates put it at about 700 million years or so ago. We don't have records of climate changes, temperature spikes, cooling, heating up, etc etc from there because humans didn't exist. Much less a written language. In fact, weather records didn't start being written with any degree of accuracy untill 1850. We have roughly about 160 years of scientific weather records. Now put that up against 700 million years of the Earth having a similar climate and you might start to get an idea as to why I might be a little skeptical of your position. ”
lovecats on Jan 9, 2013 at 21:32:05
“Why do you act so foolish? We have in tree rings which mirror the temperaturs for starters that record in eal-time existing temperatures and rainfall in the historic past. Obviously you have never heard of that....If I relied on the Kochs and the Bible, I wouldn't either. But you are a true climate denier and you must receive joy from that fact. How about taking ice samples from the polar zones to evaluate climate too? Did you think of that? Of course not, because you are tied to the irrational as a racist is connected to racial differences. I strongly suggest that you read a few books rather than rely for your data on rightwing, anti-science, anti-rational sources. If you check scientific sources dedicated to climate change, you would have known that...but you know what...you and are your rightwing allies don't need to think...Limbaugh and the Kochs tell you everything you need to know and you BELIEVE IT. YOU BUY THE BS. There is absolutely no hope for you and probably never will be. I bet you don't believe in Darwinism either. Right? Of course I am right because you belive dinosaurs and man walked the earth together and were also found on Noah's Ark. You may win points with the Kochs and the Petroleum Institute of America, but never from anyone that can think for themselves. ”
“No, insufficient data to make the global warming/climate change claim. Not just for me. You keep invoking science, but you're not following the scientific method. ”
lovecats on Jan 9, 2013 at 17:16:42
“In your mind there never will be enough evidence; but for everyone else there sure is...you version of the Scientific method rejected Galileo and Copernicus. Nice try, but your logic doesn't work. You can still keep trying in order to gain your stipend from the Kochs. I am sure they will pay you when the day comes”
“I accept scientific advances. As evidenced by my using a computer and the internet, not magic, to reply to you. The problem with your position is that it relies on insufficient data make its hypothesis. The earth is many billions of years old, but you are relying on, at most, several hundred years of recorded data on climate. This is akin to writing a book report on War and Peace by only reading the last page.”
lovecats on Jan 9, 2013 at 15:36:22
“Insufficient data...insufficient data for you is like the officers at Pearl Harbor who didn't believe an attack was unfolding in their very midst. The data is there, except you refuse to acknowledge it since it does not fit your preconceived notions of climate change. Keep believing it is God's Will...and see what happens.”
“Partisan shill...and you need to enter the 21st Century...living back in the 5th Century CE is not becoming today. We moved on from burning witches and relying on the Papal Inquistion to determine scientific truth since the Sixteenth too. But those who refuse to accept scientific advances should have their head examined. Obviously, you should go to the top of the list. ”
Jan 8, 2013 at 19:47:52
“No, you didn't say neither of us are clever. You said that you don't find things posted on the internet clever. There is a difference, pardner. Nice try though. The news outlets you mention are not "center-right", rube. Check out the notoriously unbiased guys behind Freakonomics. They look at raw data only. Using enconomic principles and pure math, they determined which way major media outlets leaned. I can't even call what you attempted there a "nice try". If your wacky personality is how you really are, then great. Have fun with that.Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of wallowing in world where I think I am clever and my point of view, etc etc etc (by the way, I'm not white). I live in Washington (no, the state) where people like you have ran my state into galloping ruin. Sucks to be me, I guess.”
maxdb on Jan 8, 2013 at 19:59:15
“My bad, my friend, I had deleted that line since it was...it doesn't matter.
They are center-right. I really wish they were more liberal, but they follow the Democrat leader too much. I refuse to follow a party that condones our foreign policy, etc.
And, I assure you, if I was running Washington, it'd be pretty awesome. I would even invite people like you in to talk about things because as much as a pompous jerk as I can be, I'm pretty willing to listen to others.
You see, my friend, I think you and I are both two people (intelligence, cleverness, etc. up for grabs) who are disappointed in the way things are run. I am really disturbed by how polarized this country has become and it doesn't take a great leap of imagination to see that it will (along with how poorly both sides have run us) help lead us to our own destruction.
So I will say that I see you as a person who I respect, but whose views I don't share.
“Give me a book report on War and Peace. However, you can only read the last page. This is the science you are trying to ram down our throats. The earth is how many billions of years old? And human recorded history is how old? Even if humans recorded temperatures and climate patterns the second that we learned how to write, is that enough data to compared to how many billions of years of climate history the planet has to accurately say that we are experiencing global warming? Im sorry, you guys call it climate change now.”
Jan 8, 2013 at 19:17:11
“Keep trying, max. You're still not clever. There's a whole host of left leaning media outlets that put their political slant on news stories. Yet only Fox News is singled out for derision. It was marginally clever in 2003, it is not now. And this wacky persona you are trying to portray now is neither clever nor funny. Nor is it distracting me or anybody else following this to what you tried to do.”
maxdb on Jan 8, 2013 at 19:30:59
“I just told you neither of us are clever. Oh, and I insult the center-right things like MSNBC, CNN, etc. 'cause they are just terrible, but not as bad as Fox.
See, my friend, Fox lies more than any other organization. They should be ridiculed all of the time because of this and people like you who think it is a viable source.
As for my personality, I assure you I am a weird and kinda wacky guy in real life. I don't use it to distract from anything, you bumpkin, I use it because I find that everyone taking this place serious is hilarious and people like you who spend their life fuming over it beyond pathetic.
My friend, go wallow in your world where you think you are clever and your point-of-view is anything but backwards and part of the decay of elitist, white America.”
Jan 8, 2013 at 19:04:30
“Then surely they would have taught you to not lie about trivial things such as this so as to make the bigger lies more believable.
I think the real reason is that you are a left leaning shill who thought it was still clever to make Fox News jokes. Sorry Max, it really isn't anymore. You need new material.”
maxdb on Jan 8, 2013 at 19:12:59
“No, I was told to lie all the time. I'm not left-leaning, so stop your slander. Stop your liberal lies and attacks on me.
P.S. I never think anything ever posted on HP (or most places online) is ever clever. We are all fools with self-inflated egos and lacking all self-realization. That's why I breakdance.”
Jan 8, 2013 at 18:58:07
“So CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, The New York Times, Comedy Central, Viacom, TimeWarner, HP, etc etc etc taught you that you can buy those shirts at www.foxnews.com? Or are you saying that they taught you to lie? Because really, both sound believable. .”
maxdb on Jan 8, 2013 at 18:59:34
“I'm saying Fox News taught me to lie all the time. I can't help it, they raised me!”
Jan 8, 2013 at 18:47:42
“I was thinking StuperSandy was referring to the Immigration Control and Reform Act of 1986, but then I thought...nah. There's no way somebody could be so willfully ignorant to say that what Obama is trying to do is in any way similar to the ICRA.”
Jan 8, 2013 at 18:26:36
“It isn't making assumptions about entire groups of people. You are attributing that to it. It is satirizing illegal immigrants. Any other sentiment perceived by it is added by the viewer of the shirt.”