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The Democratic Left's Firing Squad
Commented Dec 18, 2009 at 14:43:01 in Politics
“Lanny .... last time I checked, President Obama is far, far from being "a progressive president. About all he's shown us so far is a swing to the right of center, a trend which, from all indications, seems to be his norm.
To illustrate, I'll point out his tepid response to the Coup d'Etat in Honduras. This is the coup you were paid handsomely by the Honduran oligarchy to promote in Washington.”
To illustrate, I'll point out his tepid response to the Coup d'Etat in Honduras. This is the coup you were paid handsomely by the Honduran oligarchy to promote in Washington.”
GOP Purity Test Echoes Berlin in 1933
Commented Dec 13, 2009 at 23:06:51 in Politics
“Many who voted for Obama, progressives included, did so even though an escalation of warfare in Afghanistan as a foreign policy option was and is and continues to be anathema to those voter's ideals. Don't make the mistaken assumption that a vote for Obama was a vote for every position he took an every issue.
Obama also promised to double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011. No budgetary provision has been made to implement that policy in the FY 2010 Federal Budget. The cost : Roughly .01% of the cost of the surge of 30,000 troops. If you're the progressive you claim to be, you'll find this broken promise as troubling to you as it is to the rest of us "progressives".”
Obama also promised to double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011. No budgetary provision has been made to implement that policy in the FY 2010 Federal Budget. The cost : Roughly .01% of the cost of the surge of 30,000 troops. If you're the progressive you claim to be, you'll find this broken promise as troubling to you as it is to the rest of us "progressives".”
John Galt2 replied on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:51:55
“He also promised that signing a $750B stimulas bill would cap unemployment at 8%.”
GOP Purity Test Echoes Berlin in 1933
Commented Dec 13, 2009 at 18:23:43 in Politics
“Any progressive worth a tinker's dam should know that fthe placement of those opposed to the war in Afghanistan in the "simpleton" box is in itself simplistic.
With that, I'll let a quote of Dorothy Thompson illuminate the issue :
" Peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of creative alternatives for responding to conflict - alternatives to passive or aggressive responses, alternatives to violence. "
Key word here is "creative", a word glaringly absent at Oslo last week.”
With that, I'll let a quote of Dorothy Thompson illuminate the issue :
" Peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of creative alternatives for responding to conflict - alternatives to passive or aggressive responses, alternatives to violence. "
Key word here is "creative", a word glaringly absent at Oslo last week.”
The Land Mines Obama Won't Touch
Commented Dec 13, 2009 at 14:39:20 in Politics
“Berettasskeeter: "We did not, do not, torture."
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" Among the practices the memo discussed as arguably legal were gauging a prisoner's eyes out, dousing him with scalding water, corrosive acid, or caustic substance, or slitting an ear, nose or lip, or disabling a tongue or limb. Biting, too, was considered. "
From Jane Meyer's book, The Dark Side, page 230, describing a Legal Opinion Memo authored in January, 2003, by John Yoo, then Deputy Chief in the DOJ Office of Legal Council.
On November 4, 2003, an Iraqi civilian, Manadel al-Jamadi, while in custody at Abu Graib Prison, was beaten to death by a CIA interrogator, Mark Swanner, in front of an interpreter witness.
Need more ? I can document torture abuses all day.”
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" Among the practices the memo discussed as arguably legal were gauging a prisoner's eyes out, dousing him with scalding water, corrosive acid, or caustic substance, or slitting an ear, nose or lip, or disabling a tongue or limb. Biting, too, was considered. "
From Jane Meyer's book, The Dark Side, page 230, describing a Legal Opinion Memo authored in January, 2003, by John Yoo, then Deputy Chief in the DOJ Office of Legal Council.
On November 4, 2003, an Iraqi civilian, Manadel al-Jamadi, while in custody at Abu Graib Prison, was beaten to death by a CIA interrogator, Mark Swanner, in front of an interpreter witness.
Need more ? I can document torture abuses all day.”
Mr. President, War Is Not Peace
Commented Dec 11, 2009 at 13:10:29 in Politics
“" Peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of creative alternatives for responding to conflict - alternatives to passive or aggressive responces, alternatives to violence. "
Dorothy Thompson
Key word here is "creative", a word glaringly absent at Oslo.”
Dorothy Thompson
Key word here is "creative", a word glaringly absent at Oslo.”
No Fair Election In Honduras Under Military Occupation
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 21:18:50 in World
“Gee, that only leaves some 186 sovereign nations on this green earth that haven't fallen for the idea that this was a fair election.
Can you give me the names of the member nations in the OAS that are ruled by dictators, as you say?? Careful now .... democratically elected heads of state are, by definition, not dictators.
Take your time.”
Can you give me the names of the member nations in the OAS that are ruled by dictators, as you say?? Careful now .... democratically elected heads of state are, by definition, not dictators.
Take your time.”
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 15:24:17 in World
“.... But it's ALL happening under Micheletti's watch, isn't it ??
Coup d'Etats create the kind of civil unrest that result in these atrocities. The onus rests solely upon the Honduran Coup Cartel.”
Coup d'Etats create the kind of civil unrest that result in these atrocities. The onus rests solely upon the Honduran Coup Cartel.”
bardimf replied on Dec 01, 2009 at 07:33:07
“But violence also occurred while under Mr. Zelaya's watch. Drug trafficking increased considerably, violence against youth also increased considerably, gang related problems increased considerably as did kidnapping, rape and violence against women, repression against union leaders was blatant in 2008... and I can go on and on.
Given all this, I am not sure I understand what is your point. Please read a little bit about Honduras before the coup... this was no paradise.”
Given all this, I am not sure I understand what is your point. Please read a little bit about Honduras before the coup... this was no paradise.”
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 20:25:54 in World
“I'll try that again:
www.forbes
www.forbes
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 20:18:24 in World
“Read it and weep, cadacabeza.
www.forbes
www.forbes
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 19:48:49 in World
“The issue it DOES touch upon is the continuing disregard the Micheletti Cartel has for human rights in Honduras.”
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 19:45:31 in World
“" .... there was no coup d'etat."
I know with absolute certainty that you are essentially alone in that opinion.
How's it going with the OAS member nations ??
Just asking.”
I know with absolute certainty that you are essentially alone in that opinion.
How's it going with the OAS member nations ??
Just asking.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 21:14:01
“Try this one:
http://onl
What happened in Honduras is historically significant. Were you on the right side of history?”
http://onl
What happened in Honduras is historically significant. Were you on the right side of history?”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 20:44:51
“I could not link to the page at Forbes.”
sticksnstones replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 20:25:54
“I'll try that again:
www.forbes
www.forbes
sticksnstones replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 20:18:24
“Read it and weep, cadacabeza.
www.forbes
www.forbes
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 19:54:52
“Please read the Law Library of Congress opinion. The Supreme Court was activing within its constitutional authority. No violation of the constitution, no coup.
The OAS is embarrasiing itself.”
The OAS is embarrasiing itself.”
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 17:44:53 in World
“Irma Villanueva
Age 25
Mother of four children
Pulled from a crowd of anti-golpe marchers
Raped by uniformed police, then sodomized with a police baton as a crowd of fellow policemen cheered.
Did you see HER at the polls today ??”
Age 25
Mother of four children
Pulled from a crowd of anti-golpe marchers
Raped by uniformed police, then sodomized with a police baton as a crowd of fellow policemen cheered.
Did you see HER at the polls today ??”
bardimf replied on Nov 30, 2009 at 13:54:14
“Violence agains women, children and old people is nothing new in our region.
Daniel OrdonezTorres
Back in August 2009, Mr. Ordonez was being intimidated by a Zelaya supporter. When Mr. Ordonez did not support their agenda, he was shot to death in front of his family. He did not participate in this past election either.
You will find such horrific stories from both sides. Neither Mr. Zelaya nor Mr. Michelleti are interested in human rights.”
Daniel OrdonezTorres
Back in August 2009, Mr. Ordonez was being intimidated by a Zelaya supporter. When Mr. Ordonez did not support their agenda, he was shot to death in front of his family. He did not participate in this past election either.
You will find such horrific stories from both sides. Neither Mr. Zelaya nor Mr. Michelleti are interested in human rights.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 18:42:11
“This is another red herring. As lamentable as a case like this would be, it does not touch the issue of whether Zelaya should still be in office or if the elections shoud be recognized.”
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 17:36:11 in World
“You conveniently keep leaving out the part about an EXTRAJUDICIAL EXILE of the democratically elected president of Honduras by an illegal Coup d'etat cartel.
Yoy cannot defend the the rule of law and ignore the illegality by which the overthrow of a government took place all in one breath. You simply cannot be taken seriously.”
Yoy cannot defend the the rule of law and ignore the illegality by which the overthrow of a government took place all in one breath. You simply cannot be taken seriously.”
hlmm1705 replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 22:33:06
“je, 77% of voters today disagree with you.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 18:13:57
“I believe that I also mentioned in my unposted comment that there was no coup d' etat. The democratically elected President was ordered removed by the legally constituted Supreme Court and his replacement was chosen by a 212-0 vote by the democratically elected Chamber of Deputies. In Honduras the President is not entitled to violatel the law at will wihout risking removal from office.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 18:09:24
“I answered this previously, but for some reason it was not printed: Zelaya defied an injunction, and the Supreme Court issued a warrant to remove him from office. He was no longer President when the military illegaly sent him into exile. His being in exile is easily corrected; he can return to the country and face arrest, just as President Michelleti has offered. The fact that he was illegaly exiled after his removal from office in no way entitles him to return to the Presidency.”
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 14:03:48 in World
“The remedy of the "error", as you casually refer to it, in illegally exiling your democratically elected president, is the unequivical reinstatement of Zelaya to the position he was elected to hold.
Any alternative argument is the real red herring here. You simply cannot defend the rule of law on the one hand and defend a Coup d'Etat on the other.”
Any alternative argument is the real red herring here. You simply cannot defend the rule of law on the one hand and defend a Coup d'Etat on the other.”
No Fair Election In Honduras Under Military Occupation
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 12:38:47 in World
“You cannot deny that the Honduran election has been tainted in the eyes of the OAS member countries, and by the world at large. That is a fact. Zelaya didn't create that atmosphere of global distrust og any electoral outcome. The Micheletti Coup Cartel created it.
You need to own up to those realities.”
You need to own up to those realities.”
kellydmullins replied on Nov 30, 2009 at 20:55:33
“given that the oas member countries are for the most part ruled by dictators.
hlmm1705 replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 22:37:58
“that´s true, Zelaya didn´t wanted elections at all!!!!!!!!”
The Honduran Coup: A Graphic History
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 12:25:48 in World
“The Micheletti coup cartel lost any legitimate power to prosecute Zelaya the moment the Honduran military illegally exiled the democratically elected president.
Own it.”
Own it.”
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 12:19:33 in World
“And by the same token, the Honduran military violated the Honduran Constitution by exiling Zelaya to Costa Rica. The Micheletti Cartel has numerous times admitted as much. My comment was directed at hondugirl, who obviously has no problem whatsoever with ignoring the rule of law if the results conform to a right wing agenda, while condemning Zelaya for what she perceives to be a left-leaning political agenda. This despite the fact that the Honduran legislature approved any and all trade agreements with Venezuela and financial support to Honduras through ALBA.
You and hondugirl need to acknowledge and own your hypocrisy. It's there for all to see.”
You and hondugirl need to acknowledge and own your hypocrisy. It's there for all to see.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 12:52:06
“Exiling a Hondudran national is contrary to the constitution of Honduras. The remedy for this error is to allow legally deposed ex-president Zelaya back into the country for prosecution of his various crimes. It in no way affects the validity of his removal from office. Talking abut trade deals with ALBA and Venezuela is a red herring.”
Sunday's Elections Left As Risky Option in Honduras
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 13:37:00 in World
“Translation :
I applaud the unconstitutional overthrow of an elected government because I believe Zelaya was THINKING about doing the same thing. ha ha ha”
I applaud the unconstitutional overthrow of an elected government because I believe Zelaya was THINKING about doing the same thing. ha ha ha”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 15:55:45
“Since our exchange was getting skinny I will reply here. I will try to type slowly so you can understand. There was no coup d' etat. Zelaya was removed legally by the Supreme Court of Honduras. The fact that citizen Zelaya, the ex-president, was illegallly exiled in no way makes him president again. Though he was democratically elected, just as Richard Nixon was, he was removed from office by a legally constituted Supreme Court, and his replacement was chosen by a 122-0 margin by the democratically elected Chamber of Deputies.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 06:12:43
“There are several videos of Zelaya saying that. Also, he violated some court injunctions as well as numerous laws, the most notorious the law requiring he submit a budget by a certain date. He was just spending money as he saw fit. You should inform yourself before forming opinions on such serious matters.”
The Honduran Coup: A Graphic History
Commented Nov 26, 2009 at 13:28:36 in World
“Given that you're such a legal scholar, it shouldn't be difficult for you to point out for us exactly where in the Honduran Constitution is the provision for the removal of the elected head of state at gunpoint by the military in the middle of the night from his home and the forced exile of that same elected head of state to Costa Rica. For what ?? According to the illegitimate Micheletti coup cartel, it was necessary to overthrow the government in order to prevent Zelaya from overthrowing the government.
George Orwell could have written a sequel to Animal Farm over the twisted logic of THAT excuse for a Coup d'Etat, my misinformed friend.”
George Orwell could have written a sequel to Animal Farm over the twisted logic of THAT excuse for a Coup d'Etat, my misinformed friend.”
kgb999 replied on Nov 28, 2009 at 21:37:46
“If that was the only issue, you'd be right. But it isn't.
The illegal action of the military doesn't change the fact that Zelaya violated the constitution 10 ways to Sunday before he was removed. The charges against him seem to be based on some pretty incontrovertible facts.
Both the military who removed him (in violation of the courts order to present Zelaya) should stand trial. But so should Zelaya.”
The illegal action of the military doesn't change the fact that Zelaya violated the constitution 10 ways to Sunday before he was removed. The charges against him seem to be based on some pretty incontrovertible facts.
Both the military who removed him (in violation of the courts order to present Zelaya) should stand trial. But so should Zelaya.”
Obama's Magical Surrealism in Honduras
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 23:39:12 in World
“Too bad there is not a single sovereign nation on the planet that agrees with your own personal set of opinions.
That's OK, though. You're entitled to your own set of opinions.
What you're NOT entitled to is your own set of facts, amigo.
How are things workin' out between you Golpistas and the Organization of American States ?? Just askin'.”
That's OK, though. You're entitled to your own set of opinions.
What you're NOT entitled to is your own set of facts, amigo.
How are things workin' out between you Golpistas and the Organization of American States ?? Just askin'.”
Obama's Magical Surrealism in Honduras
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 23:29:50 in World
“The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (part of the Orgaiization of American States) also reports that it has testimony from Hondurans alleging rape and other sexual violence by uniformed members of the Honduran military and police.”
Obama's Magical Surrealism in Honduras
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 23:25:37 in World
“An August 25, 2009 report by Human Rights Watch highlighted documentation gathered by the Honduran womens' rights group, Feministas en Resistencia, of 19 instances of rape by uniformed police officers since the June 28 coup d'etat. This group asserts many other instances of rape by military and police officers, but those women are understandably reluctant to report an abuse for fear of reprisals.”
Obama's Magical Surrealism in Honduras
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 22:52:04 in World
“Irma Villanueva
Honduran woman who dared to demonstrate in support of President Zelaya's return to his rightful place as the Legitimate head of state.
Age 25
Mother of four children
Raped by uniformed police, then sodomized with a police baton while fellow police members stood by and cheered.”
Honduran woman who dared to demonstrate in support of President Zelaya's return to his rightful place as the Legitimate head of state.
Age 25
Mother of four children
Raped by uniformed police, then sodomized with a police baton while fellow police members stood by and cheered.”
Obama's Magical Surrealism in Honduras
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 19:49:23 in World
“I wonder how many Hondurans will decide to just stay inside their homes knowing full well that any opposition to the coup d'etat will likely result in the coup-sanctioned arrest, detention and rape of those Hondurans' family members.”
sticksnstones replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 23:29:50
“The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (part of the Orgaiization of American States) also reports that it has testimony from Hondurans alleging rape and other sexual violence by uniformed members of the Honduran military and police.”
sticksnstones replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 23:25:37
“An August 25, 2009 report by Human Rights Watch highlighted documentation gathered by the Honduran womens' rights group, Feministas en Resistencia, of 19 instances of rape by uniformed police officers since the June 28 coup d'etat. This group asserts many other instances of rape by military and police officers, but those women are understandably reluctant to report an abuse for fear of reprisals.”
sticksnstones replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 22:52:04
“Irma Villanueva
Honduran woman who dared to demonstrate in support of President Zelaya's return to his rightful place as the Legitimate head of state.
Age 25
Mother of four children
Raped by uniformed police, then sodomized with a police baton while fellow police members stood by and cheered.”
Honduran woman who dared to demonstrate in support of President Zelaya's return to his rightful place as the Legitimate head of state.
Age 25
Mother of four children
Raped by uniformed police, then sodomized with a police baton while fellow police members stood by and cheered.”
MASTERINTERPRETER replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 22:19:17
“Do not denigrate our people. We are no animals in Honduras and do not live in a Jungle. I have lived in other countries, and I am amazed how little ADVANCED COUNTRIES know about the dignity with which small countries like Honduras carry on with their lives. The best example is the Resistance, they think don't they. We have culture, we have religion, we have respect for other people. We have not had a civil war since 1924. So do not denigrate our people. Leftist bring out numbers and statistics, ask them for names. We are not blameless but we are not savages as you imply.”
The World's Original "Banana Republic" Strong-Arms the World's "Last Remaining Superpower?"
Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 21:53:36 in World
“Obfuscate much ?”
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