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Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 20:06:36 in World
“How about "Brownshirts" ?
Now THAT'S a catchword.”
Now THAT'S a catchword.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 19:09:45 in World
“It's a word. Not a Phrase.
Golpe = Coup
ista = in support of”
Golpe = Coup
ista = in support of”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 19:05:43 in World
“Honduras will never be free of US control until it reaches a certain level of economic autonomy; a tipping point, if you will.
It can start by nationalizing its mining industry, instead of meekly accepting mere pennies on the dollar value from Canadian mining interests. Significantly, Zelaya was inching toward doing just that before corporate interests had him removed from office.”
It can start by nationalizing its mining industry, instead of meekly accepting mere pennies on the dollar value from Canadian mining interests. Significantly, Zelaya was inching toward doing just that before corporate interests had him removed from office.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 18:51:16 in World
“I don't think I've ever described the Coup d'Etat in Honduras as a "military coup". Please correct me if I'm wrong. Every comment I've ever made is in my Comment Archive. Feel free to browse.
I have said that the Honduran Coup d'Etat was initiated by the Honduran military in a most unlawful manner. But, we both digress here, don't we ?”
I have said that the Honduran Coup d'Etat was initiated by the Honduran military in a most unlawful manner. But, we both digress here, don't we ?”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 01:57:59
“The Zelayista mobs might fit the concept. We could call them "redshirts".”
sticksnstones replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 20:06:36
“How about "Brownshirts" ?
Now THAT'S a catchword.”
Now THAT'S a catchword.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 19:26:06
“Simplistic catchword!”
sticksnstones replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 19:09:45
“It's a word. Not a Phrase.
Golpe = Coup
ista = in support of”
Golpe = Coup
ista = in support of”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 18:57:24
“Over 1800 comments. I''m impressed! No time to look through all of them though. However, your constant reference to "golpistas" might fall into the catchphrase category.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 18:33:09 in World
“You see, that's just the problem. Hondurans haven't run their own affairs, ever.
Let me illustrate a hypothetical to support that assertion: Suppose the US pulled its military and diplomatic contingencies out of Honduras. And suppose the US imposed a trade embargo against Honduras. And suppose the US blocked wire-transfer of remittance funds from Hondurans abroad. And suppose the US State Dept. made it all but impossible for NGOs to operate in Honduras.
All of those restrictive devices have been implemented in one degree or another or in combination with one another by the US in Latin America.
Truthfully, Hondurans run their own affairs AT THE PLEASURE OF THE U.S.
Doesn't that bother you in the least ?”
Let me illustrate a hypothetical to support that assertion: Suppose the US pulled its military and diplomatic contingencies out of Honduras. And suppose the US imposed a trade embargo against Honduras. And suppose the US blocked wire-transfer of remittance funds from Hondurans abroad. And suppose the US State Dept. made it all but impossible for NGOs to operate in Honduras.
All of those restrictive devices have been implemented in one degree or another or in combination with one another by the US in Latin America.
Truthfully, Hondurans run their own affairs AT THE PLEASURE OF THE U.S.
Doesn't that bother you in the least ?”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 18:37:52
“So let's stop doing it right now. We can start with Honduras.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 18:03:08 in World
“Simplistic catch-phrases framing complicated political events is indeed the hallmark of right-wing sycophants like yourself.
Your concession is accepted.”
Your concession is accepted.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 18:42:43
“Simplistic catch phrases? How about "military coup"?”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 15:17:25 in World
“Do yourself a real favor. If you do some independent research, you'll find that the two leading parties in Honduras are right of center. No matter how you vote, the winner will be ........ (drum roll) .... right of center, unless, of course, one casts a throw-away vote for a minor party like say, a Nader.
Just like here in the USA.”
Just like here in the USA.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 15:09:01 in World
“And, I'll add, I'm saying that as a lifelong Democrat who voted for the guy.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 15:06:47 in World
“You're misinformed. Obama's support is for global corporate interests, the Micheletti Coup Cartel, and the business-as-usual status quo.”
wereeverywhere replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 23:13:28
“You could safely substitute "the Democratic Party's" in place of Obama. Anyway, thank you for the very informative posts on the Honduran issue.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 15:00:22 in World
“" ... uses secret police and prisons to repress dissent, and can't survive economically without a foreign sponsor. "
" .... has been restricting the legal freedoms ... "
What you're describing here, chicagomike, is the Honduran Micheletti Coup Cartel, as well.
High literacy and the export, as you say, of physicians to developing countries worldwide can be interpreted in many ways, notwithstanding the altruistic issues. I think you hit upon the salient defects of the Cuban Revolution, but you lost me completely when you blithly, in my opinion, dismiss its successes. I really don't believe that the destitute mother of a sick child gives a tinker's dam about the politics of the trained, well educated Cuban physician treating that child. It's merely an example of diplomacy at its finest. We should all learn from that example.”
" .... has been restricting the legal freedoms ... "
What you're describing here, chicagomike, is the Honduran Micheletti Coup Cartel, as well.
High literacy and the export, as you say, of physicians to developing countries worldwide can be interpreted in many ways, notwithstanding the altruistic issues. I think you hit upon the salient defects of the Cuban Revolution, but you lost me completely when you blithly, in my opinion, dismiss its successes. I really don't believe that the destitute mother of a sick child gives a tinker's dam about the politics of the trained, well educated Cuban physician treating that child. It's merely an example of diplomacy at its finest. We should all learn from that example.”
JTHC75 replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 15:07:47
“The difference is that Honduras will actually hold elections where there are actual opposing parties.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 13:45:50 in World
“No, Ira, that's not what I'm implying. What I don't believe in is the kind of disregard the Micheletti has shown in degard to constitutionally quaranteed civil liberties. I also don't believe, as you do, that the rape of Honduran Resistencia women is an acceptable form of political repression.
" Free elections " ?? Get real, pal.”
" Free elections " ?? Get real, pal.”
conlawprize replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 14:44:25
“Obama's support for self-styled populist latin american strong men certainly looks stupid after this vote.”
Honduran Lawmakers Vote 'No' To Restoring Zelaya
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 12:51:16 in World
“The illegitimate Coup regime certainly got a big bang for its buck (or Limpera) by wisely hiring Lenny Davis to lobby Washington on its behalf.
As WC Fields may have said, " If Lenny were any closer to Hillary, he'd be behind her."
No big surprise here. The "Lawmakers" vote to quash reinstatement of the legitimate head of state was made with the full understanding that it had the blessing and full support of the US Dept. of State, and, by proxy, President Obama.
That's not the " Change We Can Believe In ". More like "Go Along To Get Along " vis- a- vis the Status Quo. I'm not sure where Obama will be placing the Coup in Honduras in his resume. It certainly shouldn't be placed under the " Accomplishments I'm Proud Of " column.”
As WC Fields may have said, " If Lenny were any closer to Hillary, he'd be behind her."
No big surprise here. The "Lawmakers" vote to quash reinstatement of the legitimate head of state was made with the full understanding that it had the blessing and full support of the US Dept. of State, and, by proxy, President Obama.
That's not the " Change We Can Believe In ". More like "Go Along To Get Along " vis- a- vis the Status Quo. I'm not sure where Obama will be placing the Coup in Honduras in his resume. It certainly shouldn't be placed under the " Accomplishments I'm Proud Of " column.”
cadacabezaunmundo replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 17:56:51
“Imagine, allowing Hondurans to rule Honduras. What a right wing idea.”
Ira7 replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 13:24:39
“So in other words, you don't believe in the balance of powers and free elections in Honduras?”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 02:50:10 in World
“Uh Huh, Beck's a real patriot.
" When fas c ism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag, and holding a cross."
Sinclair Lewis
Lewis had your Beck in mind.”
" When fas c ism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag, and holding a cross."
Sinclair Lewis
Lewis had your Beck in mind.”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 02:45:03 in World
“Been there three times so far. Through Mexico. Traveled freely. Made friends.”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 02:41:34 in World
“No you won't. You're a stay-at-home guy.
Cheetos, an RC cola, and a big-screen tuned to FOX snooze.”
Cheetos, an RC cola, and a big-screen tuned to FOX snooze.”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 23:16:58 in World
“Got those "cammies" all starched and ironed ?”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 23:09:41 in World
“Check out Ira's Comment Archive for October 28, 2009. That's as far as I'm going to go in doing your homework FOR YOU.”
thrdr replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 00:09:01
“A correction. The comment you are refering to is dated Oct. 29.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lys-anzia/honduras-coup-detat-murde_b_334776.html?show_comment_id=33634321#comment_33634321”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lys-anzia/honduras-coup-detat-murde_b_334776.html?show_comment_id=33634321#comment_33634321”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 22:57:39 in World
“So, who do you favor for 2012 ?? Beck ??”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 22:53:07 in World
“Yeah, whatever, Skippy.
Been to Cuba ?? It's a wonderful destination .... friendliest people you'll ever run into.
Course, you have to leave your bunker if you're gonna travel.”
Been to Cuba ?? It's a wonderful destination .... friendliest people you'll ever run into.
Course, you have to leave your bunker if you're gonna travel.”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 22:48:12 in World
“Great place to visit. Friendliest people you'd ever want to meet. Kick@ss food!!
Sign me up.”
Sign me up.”
DemocraticStraits replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 00:27:19
“The areas you are allowed to visit are a great place to visit. They won't let you see what they don't want. If you've actually been there, and I'd venture you haven't, they don't let you leave the tourist areas. Guys with guns stop you.”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 20:17:19 in World
“You know what I find almost as chilling as the rape of these Honduran women ? It's the casual way some people dismiss their helpless plight. Just like your comment. " Hey!!! Happens all the time. It's just one of those man things."
Take the case of Irma Villanueva, aged 25, mother of four children.
Pulled from a resistencia march, raped by four uniformed police officers and sodomized with a police baton to the cheers of all.
I ask you : If these police officers do not work for the golpe government, the who DO they work for ????”
Take the case of Irma Villanueva, aged 25, mother of four children.
Pulled from a resistencia march, raped by four uniformed police officers and sodomized with a police baton to the cheers of all.
I ask you : If these police officers do not work for the golpe government, the who DO they work for ????”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 14:18:50 in World
“Perhaps you'd feel more at home at the Hoover Institute or the Heritage Foundation web sites.”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 14:14:57 in World
“There is nothing, I repeat nothing, in Honduran law that makes a Constituent Assembly's continuing activities contingent upon the president's overstay of his term past that term limit. No matter who is president.”
Obama's Afghanistan Strategy Has Echoes Of Bush
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 13:15:40 in Politics
“In my sixty-two years on this green earth I've listened to quite a few war speeches. They're all pretty much the same. They all pretty much cover the same points. Obama's war speech certainly was no different from speeches I've heard from Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, Poppa Bush, Or Baby Bush.
I've also come to the hard realization that war is an industry. Fifty-seven percent, cumulatively, of our 2010 federal budget is earmarked and dedicated to the war industry.
Given the shabby condition of every part and aspect of our domestic situation, I have a problem with that.
" When fas c ism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag, and holding a cross."
Sinclair Lewis”
I've also come to the hard realization that war is an industry. Fifty-seven percent, cumulatively, of our 2010 federal budget is earmarked and dedicated to the war industry.
Given the shabby condition of every part and aspect of our domestic situation, I have a problem with that.
" When fas c ism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag, and holding a cross."
Sinclair Lewis”
Politiqo replied on Dec 02, 2009 at 13:40:30
“So no different = no change. I thought that was part of his administrations characteristics? Oh no, it isn't. Only his sheep believed that... at the time. Not so much anymore.”
Manuel Zelaya Should Be Returned To Power, Say Latin American Leaders
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 12:15:10 in World
“But, butttt ....... the golpistas HAD to overthrow the legitimate government to prevent the overthrow of the government.
It's clear as day .....”
It's clear as day .....”
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