“I have come to the conclusion that there is no longer a need for the House to try and repeal obamacare any time soon. It is collapsing on its own. As more and more people lose their health insurance, get hit with higher premiums, ungodly out of pocket expenses, unaffordable deductibles and loss of personal information, there will be a rising clamor from the citizens for congress to get rid of it. They will vote in more conservatives and Republicans to accomplish that. The lousy nonfunctional website is just the beginning. That is technology and technology can be fixed. (If you hire the right people from the private sector.) The law is bad. It does away with the free market and has instituted the mandatory buying of a bad product. Ask yourself, if obamacare was so good, why wouldn't the dems have waited until it was read and discussed before voting on it. They had the votes. They could have waited a while. It it was so good why didn't the American citizen immediately dump their insurance and scream for access to obamacare? Why did obama have to lie about it? Keep your doctor? Lower premiums? Why are the really qualified doctors and hospitals opting out obamacare and the exchanges? This fiasco is self imploding and all the right has to do is stand back and watch. The dems wanted this, they voted it in, so let them live with the results.”
momoftwodogs on Dec 9, 2013 at 20:05:51
“Talk about one who surfsonNONreality, not a word of that long diatribe of wreaking bullcrap is true.”
Muttlib on Dec 9, 2013 at 20:05:14
“You're so right. I agree 100%. Let's go with Universal Care (single payer) like you are clearly pushing for. Genius! I love it. Get rid of the ACA and just go to the European model for all Americans. We deserve it! Thanks for fighting the good fight!”
“From the article.
The Obama administration has deemed negotiations to be classified information -- banning members of Congress from discussing the American negotiating position with the press or the public. Congressional staffers have been restricted from viewing the documents.”
bromeando on Dec 10, 2013 at 13:19:45
“"These are not U.S. documents and we have no idea of their authorship or authenticity," a spokesman for the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative said. "Some elements in them are outdated, others totally inaccurate." The spokesman declined to specify which parts were outdated or inaccurate.
We'll come out with our pitchforks after we see the final deal.”
“I agree there are extremists on both sides. But I would argue that the left provokes the right far more often than the right provokes the left. Most often with attempts at bans, new laws or executive orders.
I could equate this with many things political.
Don't take away my: food stamps, right to abortion, my right to vote without an ID, my guns.
In other words attempts to take away anything, whether it is enumerated in the Constitution generates extremists conversation across the political spectrum.
The one difference is that the Second Amendment is explicit about the gun owners right. The Constitution doesn't cover any of the other topics.”
The Militia of the State of Oklahoma shall consist of all ablebodied citizens of the United States and all other ablebodied persons who shall be or shall have declared their intentions to become citizens of the United States, who shall be more than seventeen (17) years of age and not more than seventy (70) years of age, and said militia shall be divided into three (3) classes: The National Guard, the Oklahoma State Guard, and the Unorganized Militia.
- See more at: http://statutes.laws.com/oklahoma/Title44#sthash.tTJLUQyh.dpuf
I go to the range almost every weekend and practice.
I meet the requirements of the state laws for the militia.
I am also retired from the United States Armed Forces after 22 years.
“Most of the antigun people have never gone to a gun range, taken a gun safety class or fired a weapon on a range. It shows in their rhetoric. They post opinions instead of facts. They argue from emotion. They have no practical experience to give credence to their anti-gun hysteria and they refuse to listen to any point but those that can cause the demise of the Second Amendment. They stereotype all gun owners and automatically assume anyone with a gun is a criminal. This is a disagreement that is helping to tear America apart. There is no middle ground. The anti-gun people attack with extremist views and the pro-gun people respond with extremist views just for self defense. This disagreement along with the other differences that are growing in America is causing a huge divide. Read the posts. You can see the snide, insulting remarks instead of rational discourse. Anti-gun people can find no valid reason for owning a weapon. They have no fear of evil from bad guys and an extreme fear of something that only has the potential to be dangerous. Worse, they think that if they give a nod to hunters, everything will be okay. They confuse the idea of need with want and confuse both of those with rights.”
JSMIII on Dec 9, 2013 at 01:01:41
“The anti-gun people might have some credibility if they were pushing for tough punishments for those that commit crimes with guns. In Chicago, gang members caught with guns often get probation, yet posters here are looking to lock up people for five years for having an AR-15. Why are we willing to lock up Joe Average Citizen for years but let the real criminals off easy? Why not push to have the Feds take on people using guns to commit crimes? We can all agree that a 17 year old Juvenile, with a criminal record, has no business carrying a real firearm on the city streets. Lets focus on putting a stop to that first and foremost. Put all this fire and brimstone against those that are committing the vast majority of murders today.”
bilbo415 on Dec 8, 2013 at 21:25:49
“i can say the exact same thing about both sides. even half the gun owners no nothing about guns gone to firing range or taken a safety course”
jcebd504 on Dec 8, 2013 at 21:13:35
“One rational approach would of been to have a national background check, but guess who didn't think this was a good idea.”
bilbo415 on Dec 8, 2013 at 20:39:10
“actually i think most people are in the middle i don't take hp to be the majority of people. most people here are on one side or the other but that doesn't represent the majority”
jghilty on Dec 8, 2013 at 20:31:35
“Take a look at the anti gun talking points manual that recently ce to light. Its all about creating confusion .
“It is a right that you can choose to use or not. That is the beauty of our Constitution.
The first 10 Rights are there to tell the government what it can't do.”
rightsideoftheAtlantic on Dec 9, 2013 at 19:28:07
“Sadly, you are right. The interesting thing is that Europeans watch and play the same stuff as Americans but violence does not permeate the culture or affect it in the same way. It certainly doesn't affect society to the extent that it has a gun problem.
Europeans have similar crime levels to Americans, with the same disparity between inner city and country. They also have a long hunting tradition. However, there is no clamour for citizens to be armed and the gun deaths are a fraction of the US total. Moreover, no European feels his freedom (which is no less than that of the American) is curtailed by not owning a gun. Europeans watch the US debate in amazement and just can't get their heads around it, particularly when the lax gun laws are so manifestly connected with gun carnage.”
rightsideoftheAtlantic on Dec 9, 2013 at 09:56:29
“It works everywhere else.”
rightsideoftheAtlantic on Dec 9, 2013 at 09:54:59
“There are no developed countries like this. All developed countries have tougher gun laws than the US and all have massively fewer gun deaths. Don't try and kid yourself there is no correlation between lax gun control and high gun deaths.”
doketx on Dec 8, 2013 at 22:10:50
“Unfortunately, they have a way of ignoring it.”
Lisa SpomerKrasnoff on Dec 8, 2013 at 21:12:06
“The same with the right to choose.”
rightsideoftheAtlantic on Dec 8, 2013 at 20:24:52
“Exactly. The US has 11000+ gun homicides a year for 313 million people. The 28 countries in the EU have 1100 gun homicides for 503 million people.”
rightsideoftheAtlantic on Dec 8, 2013 at 20:20:05
“The 2nd amendment is out of date and shouldn't be used to justify anybody being able to carry a gun. It is the 21st century not the 18th.”
jghilty on Dec 8, 2013 at 20:11:29
“Which is a continuing source of agitation for the Oval Office.”
temeculapaul on Dec 8, 2013 at 20:05:23
“The Constitution forms our government followed by the Bill of Rights. The Constitution is not an anti-government document!”
lynchip on Dec 8, 2013 at 20:03:33
“what is the name of your militia? are you between the age of 18 and 45? have you trained recently to defend the state? if not please go straight to a suitable police authority and ask them to help you be a better citizen and take your guns for destruction.”
“The US has 200 year of proven resources in coal and oil. By then the other forms of energy might be ready for the big time.”
jistinnkees on Dec 8, 2013 at 19:36:28
“No way possible. The globe is at it's tipping point. Even if current energy use stays stable today, we are going to see major price increases across the board. We are already squeezing as much as we can. Fracturing is a prime example. Canadian sand oil is also an expensive option.”
“The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary and bracket of time around the writing of the 2nd amendment:
1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."
1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."
1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."
1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."
1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.
If you insist on 1700s technology to comply with Amendments, you would have to use parchment and quill pens to answer this. No internet or mass media or ball point pens.
The term militia refers to the eligible pool of citizens callable into military service.
Look up Virginia's militia statute.
In Colonial times "arms" usually meant weapons that could be carried. This included knives, swords, rifles and pistols. It didn't include cannon or other ordinance.”
aunt marilyn on Dec 8, 2013 at 15:35:57
“In no way was I insisting we use the "1700s technology", but on one hand, some are insisting on a literal interpretation of the constitution, meaning they do not want to update it to our lives today, while some like myself feel the Constitution and it's use should reflect today's society.The reason I asked these 2 questions, is there seems to be no consensus on what level of power individual citizens can own.”
“Ask the enemy in Afghanistan how well they hold off the military. It has been 11 years and we still haven't won.
But that isn't the point. The fact that you are even considering using the American military on Americans is downright scary. Under what conditions would you recommend the government activate a military reaction to Americans exercising their rights enumerated in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?”
“In most states individuals, corporations, and trusts can legally own silencers in the following states: AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MI, MS, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WV, WI, and WY.”
liberty82 on Dec 8, 2013 at 14:17:23
“Do you understand the hoops you must jump through to own one?”
“reid said every jobs bill sent from the House to the Senate was DOA. None of the House bills were voted on thanks to dems in the Senate.
Put the blame were it belongs..”
argentinered on Dec 7, 2013 at 15:55:49
“surf...when the republicans attach amendments to the job bills like defunding the ACA or planned parent hood or tax cuts for the rich what do they expect? They do that knowing full well that Reid would kill the bill. Which gives them the ability to say "well we sent them a bill and the democrats killed it.. They've yet to send a "clean bill" out of the house to the senate. So much for jobs, jobs, jobs I guess.”