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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 11:44:50 in Politics

“The bigger they are the harder they fall...and so it goes. Obama was just a symptom of a Bush legacy. We were looking for something as far from a Bush legacy as we could find and there Obama was. Whether or not he would be enough to do anything for us, it really did not matter. He was simply a figurehead of something we wanted to believe in. Now in retrospect, we can see that a more moderate persona with greater experience and power in Washington might very well have been the better choice for moving the critical focus areas along. I believe that we missed the boat on Clinton this time around and that it would have been a far greater thing to have her in office. The one thing I recall Obama saying in the debate was something about not being detail oriented in terms of the way he would run his White House. His version of exectutive expression was big picture and not hands on. I recall Hillary saying that her executive style would be entirely different. She was a roll up your sleeves, hands on exectutive. I think we need a more hands on exectutive approach from our President, but I don't believe he is capable and because he is delegating policy as well as decision-making to Rahm and others, he is like a boat without a sail. It's all very predictable as to what happens to boats without sails in the ocean...”

tssent replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 13:48:31

“You wouldn't recognize a boat with a sail if it came crashing
through the fence into your swimming pool.”
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Is This as Good as It Gets From Obama?

Commented Nov 04, 2009 at 13:38:06 in Politics

“I agree! He has been totally lame in leveraging and persuading and marrying the two! I agree too that this is very clearly a team that has an arrogance around the agenda and very little finesse. The entire team has a fraternity team feel. Not good. And very reactive personalities that antagonize rather than engage. The feel of this is that of the big back-room deal. Nothing open or transparent as we maybe thought we'd have. I'd call this White House the team that governs from the BLOG, which is vast and shallow. They don't do the deep work but think that fancy blog/media blitzing is enough when it comes to policymaking. Very diappointing.”
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Is This as Good as It Gets From Obama?

Commented Nov 04, 2009 at 12:57:15 in Politics

“You say: "...I do not forget that if the election had gone the other way, we'd right now have a barter economy and be at war with Honduras." Well, I say, for all of us who are un or under-employed with no prospects, this is an economy of bartering. We are there Bill, regardless of what you think or say on your little show. We are there already and we have no prospects for any way out. Oh, and by the way, have you heard about that little escalating war over in Afghanistan? Who needs Honduras?”
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Leadership, Obama Style

Commented Nov 02, 2009 at 14:34:20 in Politics

“Oh please do not say it is the Republicans that are blocking the health care bill or whatever. It is the Democrats. Plain and simple. He has not been able to build a consensus within his own party. The Republicans are just a distractions for people who are easily manipulated by the Obama press machine. His machine wants us to believe that it's the Republicans, but the sad truth is that it is his own party that is having a pretty hard time accepting this stuff and for good reason, they are not in lockstep here. They are thinking about what might be good for the people instead of WallStreet and the Pharm. Companies that are in the back pocket of Obama and Geitner and the rest of them. It' obvious if you are objective. But you clearly are not and you are a going to ignore the facts.”

bubbainca replied on Nov 02, 2009 at 15:00:59

“Please read the comment completely before responding to it.”

faith2hope replied on Nov 02, 2009 at 15:00:37

“Well I'm objective and I agree he is having a problem with his own party and with the republicans so that would mean basically that the man is by himself. So if you're so upset that he isn't moving water then take it to the polls and make sure it shows with both partys and stop voting in the same mess year after year.

He's fighting , Republicans, Democrats, Afghanastan. Healthcare, Unemployment, Gay & Lesibain Rights, Energy, DADT, Dick Cheney and his brat, FOX News , Birthers and that's just to name a few, We didn't even mention the idiots that are plotting to kill him everyday.

Get a grip people 9 months if he does it all now he can pretty much take off the next 3 years and play basketball.”
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Leadership, Obama Style

Commented Nov 02, 2009 at 14:01:44 in Politics

“Uh--I did vote for him. That is the horrible fact that I have to live with now. I am sick with the worry that I now have because of the idiots that run his White House. They were not what I thought I had voted for and if you were honest with this, like I am you would not be so quick to judge my puppet statement. He has not shown any leadership and we have to admit it to ourselves. It is like a circus atmosphere all super-charged and ripe for collapse because he is not doing the job he was elected to do. He has his mininons doing if for him. That is the big problem. I really do think it is his lack of experience. Period. I work in a huge company and he is not even a guy that would make middle manager in my company, given the decisions. In fact, he might have been fired, or as they do in my world, he would have been put on a special project. Seriously.”
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Leadership, Obama Style

Commented Nov 02, 2009 at 13:16:17 in Politics

“A good campaigner does not a leader make....
Obama had his entire campaign orchestrated from top to bottom by a couple of experts and a 100 million dollar machine. But he was only the puppet. When it comes to real leadership, we should really have looked to Axelrod and Poulef, who were the puppetmasters. Obama never accomplished anything as a senator. He had a book ghostwritten for himself, and now he runs the biggest machine in the entire world. He is not the right person for this job. We are starting to see it and it will only get more apparent as the years tick by.”

emmacop replied on Nov 02, 2009 at 13:37:22

“Wow, the shrink hasn't figured that HE got it wrong yet.

On that "remarkable" night Obama was elected, a freshman Senator that had passed no significant bills, never run a company, a school, or a military campaign was given power he couldn't possibly handle. That Pelosi, Reid, and Emmanuel took it from the vacuum shouldn't have surprised anyone.

Some call it inexperienced but well intended. Others see it as flat out incompetence.

Let's face it, at this point Obama has a D+/C- at best. If Congress "sneaks" through a health care bill without a general level concurrence of the populace, he's toast and he knows it. Obama needs to work on his pitch in more ways than one.”

wanttruth replied on Nov 02, 2009 at 13:19:09

“What's with the 'puppet' tag? Just admit that you probably never supported President Obama at all.”
The Ugly Irony of Sarah Palin's <i>Going Rogue</i>

The Ugly Irony of Sarah Palin's Going Rogue

Commented Oct 03, 2009 at 02:06:09 in Politics

“Funny how there is so much worry about Sarah Palin and her book and her political thinking and career. Why is this the case? Because she has something that about 46% of the voting population likes and apparently likes a lot. She is not stupid, she is actually very savvy and because she exudes authenticity that other politicians seem to be devoid of, she is dangerous to the politicos who are currently in power. Sarah Palin has something that is more than dangerous, because she is real and if real means rogue, then so be it.”

inmyopinion replied on Oct 03, 2009 at 21:51:41

“Not even 46 percent of the Alaska voting public likes her anymore. She is absolutely despised by the Alaska business community. They consider her an economic nightmare.
This is something the Lower 48 Palinbots don't seem to understand. Her appeal in Alaska is limited to rednecks and yahoos -- a significant portion of the population, yes, but generally the stupid and uneducated portion. Go to any chamber of commerce meeting anywhere in Alaska and you'll see how most community and business leaders feel about her. Hint: They're not admirers.”

Julia Bailey replied on Oct 03, 2009 at 14:40:35

“She can't speak in complete sentences. She is 'real' in that she has about average IQ, which makes people who like dumb people like her. But for those of us who want our leaders to be at the top of the heap and not 'just like everyone else', she's embarrassing.

6 schools to get a bachelors degree? Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.”
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Israel Diary: A Tale of Two Visits

Commented Sep 26, 2009 at 02:24:45 in World

“Oh please don't lecture Israel. When will the Arabs recognize them as a state? It is time. Arab neighbors should help each other so that the Palestinians are not dependent on the ones they hate for their economic health.--t­he Israelis. Let the Israel people be at peace.”

pinkibus replied on Sep 26, 2009 at 03:18:55

“Sorry - I don't think anyone ever thought of taking England to task and saying to them "You take care of the Jewish problem in Germany; "Why does Israel always think that another country should "help" people that Israel has expelled from their own land?" Let the Palestinians return to their land.”
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Why Does Obama Use Executive Power for Everything But Gay Troops?

Commented Aug 10, 2009 at 15:21:41 in Politics

“You are a sad little kool-aid drinker. Aren't you?”
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Why Does Obama Use Executive Power for Everything But Gay Troops?

Commented Aug 10, 2009 at 15:20:00 in Politics

“You are a color bigot. Please don't say you are not. You probably voted for Prop 8 like all the hispanics and african americans did. This is just so wrong when a person compares levels of bigotry. It's really pretty sad. If you were to walk a mile in my shoe and compare evils of bigotry towards gays, then you might see how ugly it is to have to live in a society that denies you basic equality--even to the extent that the bigotry lives in families this way. Think about why the number one killer of gay teenagers is suicide. Then tell me that your "color" is superior to indicating bigotry. The kids die because society and even their own families hate them for who they are. Period. I feel sorry for you.”

LiberalChrisFromEurope replied on Aug 10, 2009 at 15:54:04

“"like all the hispanics and african americans"

See, you aren't better.”
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Why Does Obama Use Executive Power for Everything But Gay Troops?

Commented Aug 10, 2009 at 15:09:18 in Politics

“You cannot be serious! The idea that equal rights is right up there with taxes and a bailout of big banks is ludicrous. Walk a mile in a gay soldier's shoes and feel the heat of the enemy when you are being bombed and shot at. This has very little to do with the foxhole argument. Oh, and BTW, they don't even have FOXHOLES anymore. Remember, this is 2009 and we have GPS. Jeez.”
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Why Does Obama Use Executive Power for Everything But Gay Troops?

Commented Aug 10, 2009 at 15:04:30 in Politics

“yeah-because the guy is a manipulative politico who does nothing risk-adverse, including having courage. Too bad, but anybody who didn't drink the Obama kool-aid knew this going it. Sad.”

Steamboater replied on Aug 10, 2009 at 16:54:02

“In short, a wuss of the worse kind and a political hack.”
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Clunker Success Proves Clean Energy Legislation Is a Win for Consumers and the Economy

Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 01:59:32 in Green

“I think it's crazy to remove perfectly good cars off the road and make people then spend a lot of money. The older cars can be great for people without a lot of means to have a car of their own. Maybe we need to make some of these cars available to some folks who might be able to buy insurance for themselves and forget the crushing of these good little clunkers--in the end we are just sending the metal back to China. What is wrong with this picture?”

rollingdivision replied on Aug 02, 2009 at 09:54:38

“Existing, running vehicles should be properly maintain and run until their useful life is done. Destroying perfectly good serviceable cars and manufacturing complete new cars takes more resources, energy, creates more pollution and green house gases than can be ever saved from increased fuel mileage. It is green to maximize the useful life of existing cars, not throwing them away.”

tiredofthesameoldstuff replied on Aug 02, 2009 at 07:06:39

“Ah these cars are clunkers meaning they would fail in a few years. Also these aren't fuel efficent cars.”
If You Don't Want the Public Option, Get the Hell Out of the Way

If You Don't Want the Public Option, Get the Hell Out of the Way

Commented Jul 09, 2009 at 02:38:41 in Politics

“Uh bob--there is the little matter of taxes. It's been clear all along that this entire health care bill will be funded on the backs of the only middle clase folks who are working anymore and they will never see a dime in savings on their own health care plans. If you are working, you are going to be stiffed by this plan they are cooking up. I am all for a few tax increase, but hey, let's make this thing equitable and if it is for everyone, they by God, let's not say if you make money you can get one of these plans. That is the problem BOB. The majority of those who work for a living, who struggle to pay their share are going to be strapped down with paying for all the 60% of the people WHO DON"T WORK FOR A LIVING. If this is fair to you then this is why we disagree. If I can get the plan, even though I have equity in a home and maybe a small savings, and if I can get the plan without being stripped of this before I can partake in the plan, then maybe we can see eye to eye on it. But it is my understanding that this is going to be another plan that those folks who have money will never get to have. We will have to be stripped of our savings and retirements and that won't work.”

COPerez replied on Jul 09, 2009 at 09:03:42

“Where did you get that "60% of people who don't work" number? Source, please.

Unless you are counting retired, disabled, children, infants and those too young to work or are in school, plus throwing in a few extra million, I don't see how you can possibly account for that number.

I call BS.”

bowthai replied on Jul 09, 2009 at 05:31:56

“I get the sense from the way you characterize the unemployed, in all caps, that you think they somehow don't want to work. You only need to take a look out your window to realize that the ranks of the unemployed are now filled with people of all classes and professions. Many of them DON'T WORK FOR A LIVING because they can't find a job because our economy is shot. If you think we should deny people health care because some places have double digit unemployment rates, well, I just hope you keep your job forever.”

twogunmojo replied on Jul 09, 2009 at 04:55:11

“didn't you hear....th­at paid off home is not your home...tha­t small business your operate is not your business..­..we are the government and we will take what we want and give it to those who did nothing to earn it.....”

TN60 replied on Jul 09, 2009 at 04:51:56

“Pray tell us all about this big boogey-man tax you are preaching !! Didn't Reid just say taxing health insurance is a non-starter?

It is time, though, for those in higher tax brackets to start paying their share. Taxing back to Clinton era taxes, not Bush's cut the wealthy taxes.”

Derelict outlaw replied on Jul 09, 2009 at 03:23:20

“Bernie says:

In my view, the fight for universal and comprehensive health care is the civil rights battle of our time. Like the other great struggles in our history that have made us a more democratic and just society, victory will require a strong and united grassroots movement that is prepared to take on the very powerful and wealthy special interests that benefit from this failing health care system.”

Derelict outlaw replied on Jul 09, 2009 at 03:20:51

“wrong and terrible disinformation, read. don't just write.

Universal Health care needs all levels and strata of society to survive and be served not just the unemployed and disadvantaged.”
Sarah Palin Resigning as Alaska's Governor (VIDEO)

Sarah Palin Resigning as Alaska's Governor (VIDEO)

Commented Jul 05, 2009 at 03:12:16 in Politics

“You are childish. You do not understand that she has great TV appeal and with that alone, she is quite viable on many levels. Do not celebrate because you really have not seen anything yet and she is coming, full on, packing everything she's got. Because this woman is stubborn, sharper that you might thing, and will not take muck without serving it right back to ya. Yep, get ready for some push back from Palin, Alaskan Style.”

tsand19151 replied on Jul 06, 2009 at 03:19:47

“You lost me with "quite viable on many levels..." wow.”

oldrwizr replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 10:45:30

“Great tv appeal? With that fingernails_on_the _blackboard voice?”

Gothfather replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 08:20:33

“Sharp? Um, yeah, right, and as as a butterknife in January on a frozen lake. Also, too late, didn't you see the fireworks last night celebrating the departure of this hack?”

rabiddog6708 replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:51:26

“Dream on. Palin has a career in rightwing media because they are not picky about who spouts the talking points (i.e. Glenn B eck), but she has no future in politics.”

coolekat replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:51:05

“Hmmmm . . .”

Newsmonger replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:27:14

“I agreed with the "stubborn" part but no the "sharper".

To make any meaningful & valuable contribution on the national stage that anyone will take seriously, she must learn and display a good & handy understanding of the national topics.

She have to start speaking coherently, and in meaningful sentence that most people can understand and follow.

Having TV appeal or selling books is not the same as been viable on a national stage. Ann Coulter have a very good TV appeal and she have sold lots of books; but that have not equated into anything near viability on the national stage.”

ShakeYourComplacency replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:24:07

“There's no stopping disgruntled and armed postal workers, either. But that doesn't make it right. If Palin's your hero, god help you.”

nodonjuan replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:20:59

“Sorry Swoos,
You give this woman too much credit. The driving force behind her is her husband. She has no brains, little talent and a persecution complex as big as New York. It is like watching the unstable guy from "Network" unravel. I went and bought a big box of microwave popcorn because this is must see TV.”

InstantDogma replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:13:19

“I don't doubt it. There are plenty of nit wits in the world.”

JoandeV replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:07:33

“I rather welcome the chance to see her come "full on". I think it will be detrimental to the Republican Party.

She may indeed be all that you say (though I don't share your opinion) but she also has serious problems in communicating all those qualities to the American people.

As to the issue of muck throwing, I think that deserves more specific attention. Ms. Palin has already shown us that she's able to serve muck preemptively. Wasn't it she who's comments threatened to widen the divide between race and class during the last election cycle? Her oft-mentioned Christian principals must have been taking a very long vacation at that point.”

Rogan replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 06:01:27

“Yes, Sarah Palin sure is "sharper that you might thing," and so are all her admirers and followers!”

momcat4obama replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 06:00:05

“and you are an idiot. TV appeal? that's what you want in your president? She won't take muck "without serving in right back to ya." again, that's the kind of person you want as your president? What kind of "muck" would your stubborn, sharp Sarah be serving to Kim Jong Ill? A newcular weapon? That would show him we don't take no muck from nobody!”

Alvin Perry replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 05:57:20

“Alaskan style push back would be packing all your stuff onto a dog sled and moving further into the tundra to avoid the authorities. Sigh... if ONLY she were doing that. But you're right.. she's coming alright... she's getting the hell out of the snow covered backwoods wilderness and coming to get some lucrative book deals and television offers so she can put that pretty little mug on every night on Fox News in the timeslot that Greta Van Susteren now holds whose contract Fox has not renewed. Sure.. there are about 60,000,000 folks like you who think that "fractured syntax Barbie" is the kind of person who should finish the work of running the United States into the ground that Ronald Reagan and George Bush's 41 and 43 have been doing for the last 30 years, but for the rest of us who don't go along with the hate actual America FIRST agenda, the last two weeks have been nothing but good news politically. All we need now is to find out that Pawlenty wears underoos or something! But Palin is done... she's coming to a television set near you so she can play the Fox TV version of Minnie Pearl and, like you, I'll be watching only I'll have the sound down!”

dennybop replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 05:33:51

“I agree MSMSuckscom's comment was childish. But I submit to swoosie1 that Sarah's "great TV appeal" is deeply felt-but by a very limited audience. She is clearly unpopular to most Americans. I also doubt many Alaskans, except those that have an undying love of her, believe she has push-back "Alaskan Style. Alaskans are not quitters. Palin has quit and she has no good excuse..

She has only continued in her national political career in helping to lead the GOP over the cliff. Republicans need to retake their party from slash and burn politicians like Palin. You realize that her resignation does not sit well with many of the GOP base don't you? You realize that most Dems are thrilled by Palin's misstep don't you?

I'm afraid many of Palin's backers are so blinded that they do not see the reality of the Republican Party's diminishing place in American politics”
Sarah Palin Resigning as Alaska's Governor (VIDEO)

Sarah Palin Resigning as Alaska's Governor (VIDEO)

Commented Jul 05, 2009 at 03:07:50 in Politics

“Palin is just too authentic for the political machine that wants to control her. She is not stupid and she is very, very popular with about 40% of the country. Huffington Post comments are not exactly going to be indicative of many people view of her. For whatever reasons that she is stepping down, it is clear that she has the entire cadre of media operatives, like Maureen Dowd and others banging them selves into keyboard oblivion just to stomp Palin into the ground. The entire political system cannot afford to have someone like her rising about the machine. She is going to be wildly popular and will drive the wedge issues like a stake through the heart of the democratic party. She will earn her keep with books, talk shows, interviews, and will be a media darling. All the while rehabilitating her reputation. I think that she is very much a threat to the status quo and will appeal to many now that she can be unbridled in her views and is no longer shackled by the boys that run the machine.”

oldrwizr replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 10:42:05

“You lost me at "she's not stupid".”

solid replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 09:46:55

“I stopped reading when you said "she is not stupid".”

pasajo replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 08:09:40

“Is your name Sarah???”

garyc4 replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:55:09

“She is popular with about 20% of the country and she is a freak show. The reason the "political machine" wants to control her is that republicans want to get elected again someday and she is the poster child for all that is stupid and incompetent about their party. I say let her run wild and we can have a permanent Democratic majority.”

DivergentMary replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:53:24

“"Very, very popular with about 40% of the country?" Which country do you mean?”

DivergentMary replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:44:48

“Swoosie, you are totally kidding, right?”

ShakeYourComplacency replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 07:21:35

“swoosie, you imagine too much. This girl has disappointed and performed below standards for you and your party, by personally failing as a VP candidate, by running McCain's campaign into the ground, and now by failing as governor. As they say, if past performance is a good predictor of future behavior, then I see more failures to come. The fact that there will be more radicalism and "driving wedges" is no surprise to me. She's good at that. But being good as the apple who spoils the bunch is no badge of honor. And as far as the Democratic Party, we've seen wedge-drivers before, he's called Karl Rove. Maybe you don't remember swiftboating, racism, gay bashing, and abortion-doctor killing? My point is, the wedge has already been driven for the last 8 years and I don't see how it's helped your party. And the nation, clearly was sick of it, that's why Barack Obama got elected by dems, repubs and independents. So find a new tune to sing.”

PanFx replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 04:41:11

“Palin is authentic? Perhaps as far as pathological liars and incompetence goes.”

bimplebean replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 03:55:45

“Or she could just be an idiot. Or a quitter. Or running for cover. Whatever.”

LauraAgain replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 03:43:10

“AMEN!!

I can't believe your post was approved ..........­.......”

Rickfors replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 03:35:22

“Ding dong the witch is dead
Which old witch? The wicked witch
Ding dong the wicked witch is dead
Hi ho the dairy O
Sing it high, sing it low
Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead
She's gone where the goblins go
below below below
ho ho, let's open up and sing
and ring those bells out
Ding dong the wicked witch is dead
Ding dong the wicked witch is dead”

kylennblack replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 03:27:45

“If by authentic you mean corrupt and by media darling you mean laughing stock...”

Dissident Dexter replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 03:20:55

“No, you're wrong. She's dumb as a sack of doorknobs and almost as attractive. The only real purpose she serves is that her voice is used to cut ice. She's almost as dopey as your post and in case you hadn't noticed, the 40% that you claim she is 'WILDLY POPULAR' with is still a pathetic minority. Just like those who claim to be republican (18%). You will all be gone soon and no one will have to listen to your whining and your lies any more.”

mudkitten replied on Jul 05, 2009 at 03:14:52

“And don't forget, she farts rainbows.”
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A Better Way to Reform Health Care

Commented Jun 11, 2009 at 10:34:09 in Politics

“All employer-based plans should be taxed. Gays with domestic partners on these plans are already taxed. The revenue to the gov.would be huge.”

DestinationsUnknown replied on Jun 11, 2009 at 12:06:55

“Yes-but this is how insane this system is.

Do you wonder why the EMPLOYERS of this country dictate one's healthcare?

Why does the employer have the responsibility of running their business and your healthcare?

THis is how ignorant we are - the answer- because that is the way it is!

IS that what makes this country the greateset in the world?

Who looks at rankings-

34th health

not even top 25 - education

greatest?

Really?

Why does your employer decide what your health care is?”
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Dick Cheney Does Not Support Gay Marriage. He Supports His Daughter's Gay Marriage

Commented Jun 03, 2009 at 13:30:17 in Politics

“The problem here is that you don't see the truth or are unwilling to acknowledge it. But it goes like this: Cheney = Ok with Gay Marriage
Obama= Not ok with Gay Marriage

It is as simple as that. Cheney is more progressive on this issue than our current president who still remains silent on one of our most important civil rights issue of our times.

The Huffington Post columnist are rabid about pointing out the disconnect between Cheney --the freakish VP that waterboards and his enlightened stance on the freedom for gays to marry. But they don't point out the very obvious bigotry of the Obama stance on this issue. Simple.”

DasBoot replied on Jun 03, 2009 at 14:33:56

“Point taken. However, in contrast to Cheney, Obama is concerned about actually getting a majority for his views. Obama is for actual, real rights for gay couples in daily life. Let's see if he will put up a fight for it, but I would not count on Cheney for that. Talk is cheap.”

llisa replied on Jun 03, 2009 at 14:24:03

“Actually, Obama is probably Ok with gay marriage, but wants a second term.”

LeftRight replied on Jun 03, 2009 at 14:13:14

“Cheney is NOT okay with gay marriage. Cheney is simply saying what his daughter wants him to say, cause she threatened to cut him off from his grandkids!”
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Will the Fight Over Gay Marriage Be the End of Right vs. Left Thinking?

Commented Jun 02, 2009 at 02:49:54 in Politics

“Indeed. Could not agree with you more. This administration has no use for gay rights. They don't and the deafening silence has proven it.”

BacktotheFront replied on Jun 02, 2009 at 05:03:45

“Unless you know mankind and have pondered it, argued with it for what it is worth and still can wake up everyday and view the very creation that God has delighted your senses with, and say God does not exist and is worth no interpretation, then your selflessness and how God should be corrected by you has made you God without being able to create something to prove that fact. Where do you think you have to go from there without creation?”

BacktotheFront replied on Jun 02, 2009 at 03:25:31

“To be liberal and generous in a perfect Ethiopia is easy. Were were you when the universe was being created. God is God. Decisions have to be made.”

BacktotheFront replied on Jun 02, 2009 at 03:20:03

“Perhaps your manners (Overall) has slowed it down. In this day and age, people do not need another complication on how to be morally correct.”
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Will the Fight Over Gay Marriage Be the End of Right vs. Left Thinking?

Commented Jun 02, 2009 at 02:48:21 in Politics

“Oh please. Get real on this. None of the democrats are any more interested in promoting equality for gays than their Republican counterparts. The current president has made that perfectly clear with his silence on gay and lesbian rights over the last six months. So really, when it comes to gay rights, the democrats have not proven to have taken the high road at all.”

SonofLiberty1 replied on Jun 02, 2009 at 05:19:09

“Yes swoosie, you have hit that proverbial nail on the head...
Most of us, around 95% or so, are not gay.

It's ok if you are but otherwise, we really don't give a darn.

Gay rights etc. probably rate below climate change and close to

"Save the spotted owl"

Sorry but this is what happens when a small group of folks talk to themselves for years at a time, never bothering to ask everyone else what they think or at least attempting to try to understand the other viewpoint.”
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When the People Are Wrong -- A Son's Defense of His Father's Gay Marriage

Commented May 31, 2009 at 19:57:46 in Living

“After 20 years in a committed lesbian relationship, I'm still surprised at the people who know and love me and my partner, but will not budge on the gay marriage issue. They are loving people with kind hearts and giving natures, they help us, we help them. They love us and we love them. They have us over to dinner and reciprocate. But, and I say this with regret and anger, they do not feel we deserve to be married. Our committed relationship is not worthy in their eyes of sanctity. We are second class. And those of us who did not marry in the small window of time we had this year are now third-class. The people I speak of, our neighbors are religious, with all the divorces they have had, the family issues, the gay children of their own and so on, but they will not give on this issue. So in my experience, we must move away from the hearts and minds concept of acceptance and maneuver towards a court decreed law that can make this issue go away permanently. Let us march this to the supreme court of the land and yes, over the years it takes us to get there, let us love openly and lovingly and out in the open. Have faith, our time will come.”

BeninOakland replied on Jun 01, 2009 at 11:26:41

“I feel your regret and pain. At the same time, if you have been working on these people for 20 years, and they still see you as less than they are, not worthy, not good.

I don't know you or them. But it sounds like you are enabling them. Maybe you should just give up, and let them know that if they cannot see you as full memebrs of the human family, then maybe it is best that you part ways. They love you as much as they can, but they obviously don't love you very much.

There are people whom we can never reach, because they are irretrievably poisoned by hate, or fear, or stupidity, or religion, or the little voices in their heads that say "You like that, don't you." After a point, it becomes a drain.

There is a point in Torch Song Trilogy here Arnold tells his mother that the only thing he expects from people in his life is love and respect, and if she cannot give him that, then she doesn't belong in his life.

Something to think about.”
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California Marriage Equality -- How We Will Win

Commented May 27, 2009 at 11:04:29 in Politics

“We continue to have hope that we will find our way on this. However, the time has come to use the power of the $$$ to boycott any politician, business, state, etc. that does not feel that this is an issue of criticality. The thing with the politicians is that they never feel constrained by the gay rights movement. There is a subtle way that the questions for them are handled and we never get in their faces about this. Take Obama for example. It is AN OUTRAGE that he is silent over this issue. Disgusting. Take all the others who have kept their mouths shut for the sake of expediency. We give them a pass because we assume they are LIBERAL. Well a liberal that does nothing but keep their mouths shut does us no better good than a conservative bigot. Quite frankly, I am tired of making excuses for our do-nothing California politicians who are supposed to help us and work with us. They are sitting in their offices and doing nothing. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE???? The fact is there is no outrage. The politicians do not care about the gay constituency or gay rights. Simple as that. For me, I am going to boycott everything that I see as anti-gay, including all the California politicians that I see being silent on this issue. They will NEVER receive my vote because they cannot be trusted with it.”

cminca replied on May 27, 2009 at 14:33:25

“Absolutely agree--not another dime till we have some full-throated LEADERSHIP on LGBT issues.

Every time you get solicited for funds--send the envelope back with an explaination as to why you are not contributing.

Still no action from our leaders?

When they ask for funds tell them to call Rick Warren.”
Why the California Court's Decision Is Good for Gay Marriage

Why the California Court's Decision Is Good for Gay Marriage

Commented May 27, 2009 at 01:25:58 in Politics

“I am amazed at the casual comments by this author and how he promotes a patience around achieving equity. For example, it seems that he thinks that the courts and people in Calif. will just magically come around through constant exposure to gay rights arguments and exposure to gay rights discussions, etc. Do you not know that this tactical position could last a lifetime before we attain equity? Instead of this naivete, we need to drive the rights issues very rapidly and without fear of political reprisal until we get equity, whether by ballot, court, or social boycotts of product, states, churches etc. Please, let's not be naive. California is full of social bigots. We have a huge voting block of hispanics and blacks that are married to the view of gay marriage being an evil sin. So lets get real and know that the other side is going to galvanize not through the gay issue on the next ballot, but some crackpot initiative that will bring out the hispanic, catholic, mormon, black voters to drive it into the ground again. Watch and beware--this tactical strategy works well for the bigots.”

cheforacle replied on May 27, 2009 at 10:49:46

“I disagree with you. I am pro gay marriage. I don't live in California. I think that if a referendum is held in the state again, it will pass. people are changing. None of my gay friends in the 90's ever talked about marriage. In the 00's I began to hear about same sex unions for the first time but not marriage. Were the people not discussing it bigots? Now 5 states, including Iowa, have legalized gay marriage and many others have legalized equal benefits. Progress on this front is moving much faster than any other civil rights movement in this country's history. If a new vote is held, it will be legalized. I don't hate the people who voted for Prop 8. They are wrong. That doesn't mean they are evil. If that were the case, then we were all evil people until the last few years.”

SonofLiberty1 replied on May 27, 2009 at 09:54:49

“I don't believe that everyone who calls themselves gay is anti Christian or anti religious.
But you sure are trying my patience as well as making a good case for a generalization.

I would advise you to carefully consider this.

Going against those who are Christian, Jewish, Islamic...­most of the nation..is not a good thing.
It will only polarize more and more until finally a limit is reached..

If it isn't already.

Remember that a little more than half the country has already passed legislation on this and it isn't in you favor.

Demonize those of us Americans who are religious is a really great idea...one that is going to have disasterous effects on your cause.”

mitchnyc replied on May 27, 2009 at 09:24:15

“Please do not give white Evangelicals in the OC, the Central Valley, and Sacramento a pass on Prop 8. They have more influence and money than hispanics and blacks put together yet I never hear any blame being cast on them for Prop 8. Why is that?”
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Obama Caving on Gays in the Military

Commented May 11, 2009 at 03:25:39 in Politics

“Yes he can. It is called an "executive order." But it takes courage.”

JC1c1 replied on May 11, 2009 at 12:45:31

“no he cant use an executive order. DADT became national law, he cant just overturn it, it now has to go in front of the house.

I think he is waiting on healthcare to go through, then will go after DADT.”
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Obama Caving on Gays in the Military

Commented May 11, 2009 at 03:19:46 in Politics

“Would you say this to a Mexican American or an African American or anybody else who has been locked out of fundamental rights in their own country? No, you would not. You clearly do not see this as a critical and fundamental rights issue, so you give Obama a big, fat, pass on it. You look the other way and you say give it time. Well brother, this has been going on too long and we deserve better. The country should respect and treat its citizens with respect, especially someone who has served their country and with honor. This is cruel and disgusting and I for one am ashamed that we have a president who made promises and is now silent, as if he can sweep gays away. He has no courage. That is a shame. He should be ashamed.”

provgrays replied on May 12, 2009 at 18:46:32

“swoosi,

You're welcome to run for President in four years if you believe you can do better.”
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