“One must first believe that 10% of the adult population have no picture I.D. Then one must believe that for some reason that whole 10% of the population cannot obtain said I.D. and then one must make the illogical leap that every one of this 10% who are so out of touch in the year 2012 as to have no I.D. would actually vote. Nice try.”
ihsxps on Jul 6, 2012 at 11:49:48
“First, one must believe that the conspiracy behind voter fraud is so vast and so effective, that no one in Pennsylvania has ever been caught doing it. Then we're supposed to believe not one homeless person has ever spilled the beans on the whole bus loads full of fraudulent voters the Democrats shuttle from poll to poll for drugs and alcohol. Then we're supposed to believe that when Mike Terzai, the man behind the new ID law says, "Voter ID -- which is going to allow Gov. Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania -- done," he doesn't mean to imply that the new voter ID law will help Romney carry the state of Pennsylvania.
Nice try. Ever heard of Occam's razor?”
p c r on Jul 6, 2012 at 11:47:05
“You assume everyone is just like you: all have cars, all write checks, all fly on airplanes, all travel to other countries. Therefore all must have a driver's license or passport.
It is not that they CANNOT get the ID. It is that it takes money (pay for copy of birth certficate, marriage certificate, transportation to DMV, fee for ID) and effort to get an ID used ONLY to vote. That means you are paying a fee to vote. That is illegal.
The illogical leap is that because there is an incidence of 0.0004% of voter fraud, 10% of people must pay fees and go to the effort of getting extra ID just to exercise their right to vote.
A Social Security card is all the ID needed to get retirement benefits or disability benefits. A Voter Registration card is all I ever needed to vote.
Why should I have to pay money I can ill afford for a right that no one is allowed to make me pay for?
clark8642 on Jul 6, 2012 at 11:10:43
“Please explain the extent of the problem that the photo ID mandate and associated fees will solve? Any stats or studies you can point to? And how many disenfranchised does it take to make the solution worse than the problem?”
WhatTheWhatThe on Jul 6, 2012 at 11:10:00
“Maybe you should read the article since it points out how they came up with these numbers. And then look at how it is more likely to have your TV fall on you than to have one person actually commit voter fraud.”
“Hey, Isn't Obama the guy that was bragging about how he would bury the Republicans by raising a billion dollars? Darn, one can't help but wonder if his contributors have decided to give him as much help as he gave his people in Wisconsin.”
richnerd on Jun 20, 2012 at 16:54:22
“Actually, no, he never said that. Check the record.”
“Emily, Read your post. Yes, many people are afraid that someone is getting something they don't deserve. They call themselves OWS and the 99%ers. And the Democrats will continue to appeal to their fear.”
emilyanne on Jun 6, 2012 at 00:30:11
“I'll let you in on a secret. I AM the 1%. I also see that the right wing has driven this country into the ditch by convincing people such as yourself that the poor, the unemployed and the labor unions are the reasons you aren't wealthier. They are pitting you against one another while they trash the nation, gutting social programs and letting our public works go to hell. Our children and grandchildren will pay for this selfishness.”
Jun 3, 2012 at 09:58:35
“Complexalien, No I don't, I think it is an inconvenience that is unfortuneatly necessary to insure that our elections are honest. We should hold our elections on one day with only military allowed to vote absentee. each voter should produce I.D. to prove they are who they claim. and each voter should have a finger dipped in indelible ink, just as we demand that they do in counties we have "liberated". But there are those who feel they would be disadvantaged by an honest election.”
Jun 3, 2012 at 09:50:43
“What has become of our country. We have an administration that sues states for enforcing our immigration laws, threatens another state for actually attempting to keep the dead and illegals from voting. In the meantime we have a President who has been reduced to selling raffle tickets for a chance to dine with him, selling refrigerator magnets and pet collars. What next, some Art Fern (old Carson tonight show) type huckster hawking these trinkets from a card table on the White House lawn?”
“Sorry Jim, if that is what you think you are not reading the posts here. I have seen one poster who was willing to admit that the dems have some good ideas and he was even willing to admit that the Tea party had some good ideas. Are you willing to agree with that poster?”
Jim Mccarthy on Jun 2, 2012 at 12:28:44
“Tea party is lost in the woods and unrealistic............”
“I see mention of Obamas "graciousness" How gracious is it of a Prsident to refer to the opposition as "the enemy". I believe that is fine, well at least to be accepted by the anonymous posters on these sites (both sides) but is quite unbecoming of a President and hardly qualifies as gracious. Nor does referring to the other party as bitter clingers of their guns and bibles. But that's just me.”
“Are you saying that Democrats would riot and take to the streets? Is that what the Democrat party has become? Maybe the Democrats in congress could just run away to Canada while the rest of the Democrats tried to figure out how to launch a recall election. Or they could live with results of a majority vote as Republicans have. I don't think a Romney administration would outlaw complaining.”
dave elliott on Jun 3, 2012 at 21:11:05
“are you saying that only democrats would be disenfranchised by the war on the poor, elderly,women and union goes on? if you are saying that, then you are a fool.”
“I am always amused by those who speak for "we the people". Which we the people? Hopefully you have noticed that country is pretty evenly split between "we the Democrat people" and "we the Republican people". As I read posts from what I assume are voting people, The Democrats are no more willing to compromise than the Republicans. Not a good thing, but when the parties beliefs are 180 degrees apart compromise difficult. A whistle stop tour? I believe Obama is so over exposed that as a conservative I would welcome that, the more he talks the more he motivates the right. Just my opinion, take it or most likely leave it. Makes no difference to me.”
Jim Mccarthy on Jun 2, 2012 at 10:41:00
“Well, you ought to be happy with Obama, all of the times he's knuckled under to Boehner. for 3 yrs. he tried to compromise on everything !! GOP slammed him back in the face every time & took him to cleaners. Obama's poll numbers go up the more time he spends out in the country......Obama a far superior orator than Romney. I suspect things are not quite as divided as you seem to think.”
“I am claiming when polling was done the Rep. were split until the last couple of weeks and there may still be Paul supporters who would not say they will vote for Romney............But they will, as will the evangelicals that the Dems hope will sit it out. I don't try to predict who will win elections, But this is no walk in the park for Obama, he now has a record to run on and alot of people (including some people on the left) are not impressed.”
“If Obama wins, I wonder what would happen if the despised one percent just decided to lock the doors of the companies that employ the 99%. How would the 99% survive? I'm guessing the 1 % could hold out much longer. Be careful what you wish for.”
scorpions5 on Jun 2, 2012 at 10:36:02
“Yes the could, but eventually they would fall. No one to buy their products, or work their companies or invest in their companies. No one to clean their homes, fix their cars, make their food. No one to grow their food, process their food, and deliever the food the their grocery stores. Their private planes would be grounded, no one to maintain them or fly them. They wouldn't have electricity because there would be NO coal to generate it. No one to deliver the gas to gas stations because the truck drivers wouldn't be there to do it. The rich will fall faster and harder without the 99%. Think long and hard, the 99% keep this country moving.”
“I'm somewhat confused. What I heard on Sunday morning was (who would believe it) a politicians honest belief, not a Gaffe. And the question is asked "did he hurt his career"? But it is obvious there is no room for honesty in the "Big Tent party." I suppose it did hurt his career far left loons, but I'm guessing it impressed a lot of independents and moderate Dems. Depends on how far he goes with backing away from his true belief.”
Rambrewster on May 24, 2012 at 23:29:21
“What makes you ( and others) think that Booker was being "honest." The evidence-- $565,000 from Bain-- seems to point to "self-serving" and disloyal. An honest critic? I think not.”