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Giuliani the Brave

Commented Nov 17, 2009 at 15:17:30 in New York

“I GIVE YOU:

* Juan Corona:
California killer convicted of murdering 25 men in 1971
* Charles Cullen:
nurse in New Jersey and Pennsylvania who killed as many as 40 patients through lethal injection
* Andrew Cunanan:
murdered five people, including fashion designer Gianni Versace, in a cross-country journey during a three-month period in 1997, ending with Cunanan's suicide, at the age of 27
* Jeffrey Dahmer:
Milwaukee, Wisconsin cannibal who kept heads, skulls and body parts in his apartment for sexual gratification; convicted of 15 murders, but believed responsible for at least two others
* Albert DeSalvo:
AKA "The Boston Strangler"; convicted of unrelated rapes; DeSalvo was never indicted for the Strangler murders, although he did confess to them
* Westley Allan Dodd:
raped and murdered three boys in 1989; executed on January 5, 1993
* Ronald Dominique:
confessed to raping and murdering at least 23 men in Louisiana; sentenced to eight life sentences in 2008
* Nannie Doss:
AKA "The Giggling Granny" and "The Jolly Black Widow"; serial poisoner who killed 11 family members
* Paul Durousseau:
murdered seven in southeast United States between 1997 and 2003; may have killed while stationed in Germany with the Army”
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Giuliani the Brave

Commented Nov 17, 2009 at 15:16:06 in New York

“I GIVE YOU:

* Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris:
kidnapped, tortured, raped and murdered five girls in 1979
* Terry Blair:
Kansas City serial killer and rapist; active 1982–2004
* William Bonin:
AKA "The Freeway Killer"; with several accomplices, claimed the lives of 20 boys in California
* Robert Charles Browne:
convicted of two murders in Colorado; confessed to 48 murders
* Jerry Brudos:
AKA "The Lust Killer" and "Shoe Fetish Slayer"; killed at least five women in Oregon
* Ted Bundy:
law student who raped and murdered more than 35 women in six states; executed in Florida State Prison on January 24, 1989
* David Carpenter:
AKA the "Trailside Killer"; murdered five women on San Francisco-area hiking trails between 1979 and 1981
* Michael Bear Carson and Suzan Carson:
nomadic hippie killers involved in the counter-culture movement; suspects in 12 homicides; sentenced to life imprisonment for three San Francisco Bay Area murders in 1983”

Chris1962 replied on Nov 17, 2009 at 16:31:41

“>>>I GIVE YOU...>>>>

How many on that list of yours were picked up on the battlefield and charged with war crimes? You just listed people who DID have the constitutional right to a civilian trial. Those constitutional rights do not apply to war criminals, however, so I'm not sure what you think your list is achieving.”

EStreetShuffler replied on Nov 17, 2009 at 15:32:25

“What's your point? That we have serial killers along with terrorists in this country?

Thanks for clearing that up.”
Families, Caregivers Bear the Biggest Burden

Families, Caregivers Bear the Biggest Burden

Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 08:59:46 in Politics

“And right you are, they should and do have our support.
But it's not the subject of my rebuttal which is that the
military is a war machine and you'd better expect the
worst if you're going to join one -- which by the way is
strictly voluntary.

Our kids are blinded by the honor and shiny metal their
service will bring them. They don't know how the machine
works or they'd never join it. Pakistan knows exactly where
Bin Ladin is. Afghanistan is charging us $400 per gallon of
gas to fuel our tanks and other vehicles. I'm not signing
up to be a part of anything THAT stupid and it sickens me
that mere children are encouraged to.

In a world of about 550 countries, thus 550 leaders making
all the decisions, the leaders don't die or get maimed or
blinded. No, our sons gets that '"honor".

Leaders should sign a piece of paper on taking office
willing to sacrifice their own life if it comes to it. Should
the Emperor of China or the King of Denmark get mad
and want war, the 2 can step into a ring and face off to the
death. Quick war, 1 death, maybe 2. Or sign a peace
and no one has to die.

Until and unless that happens we can mourn all we want.
It's education that will free us from the false beliefs that
otherwise entice us into war machines.”

andrew0823 replied on Nov 15, 2009 at 14:32:43

“with all due respect you're an idiot. A military will always be needed and there will always be the folks who enlist to defend our nation. The country made a sacred vow to take care of them for their service and they have failed to do so. The curretn legislation that was meant to help the families of these folks is being held up by a republican who claims to support our troops, but is using a special senate rule to stop the legislation. He is concerned about the cost...he wasn't all that concerned when he voted twice to support the war funding, but now he is concerned over costs.....­shameful.”

isjois replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 12:08:25

“Many who join the military do so because there aren't enough well-paying jobs in their hometowns. It isn't a matter of education - it's economics. Smart and "motivated" poor kids have a tough time accessing the resources needed to thrive in our country.

When all American children have access to life's "basics", then we can question why anyone would join the military.”
Families, Caregivers Bear the Biggest Burden

Families, Caregivers Bear the Biggest Burden

Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 22:45:17 in Politics

“Wait, wait, wait.

As I now understand it, we have an all-volunteer military now, right?
No one is forced to join any of the branches, no one is forced to
re-enlist in it.

This is precisely NOT about drafted Americans who have been forced
into military service.

Anyone who believes he has a leg to stand on after having joined
a MILITARY group (they have guns, fight wars, put down rebellions,
get shot at, bleed, get maimed, mentally jilted forever and killed)
has joined the wrong organization.

Mind you, I'm as against armies and wars and killing as anybody,
but I don't understand all the noise about the fallout surrounding
military organizations.

Let's get a grip, fellows. If you don't want your sons and daughters
to be maimed or go looney tunes or possibly get killed, then start
teaching them from youth to join anything else in the entire world
BUT the military.

We are not going to maintain a perfect record -- here or abroad.
There are nuts everywhere (yes, even at our "town hall meetings"
where some have carried guns with them).

Maybe a good start would be to attract our children from an early
age to the non-violent, guns, 4-hour video game killing sprees,
camouflage clothing, etc., and direct their attention to, oh, I don't
know, education? Books?”

scooperss replied on Nov 15, 2009 at 19:30:07

“A lot of these soldiers who were deployed overseas chose to join the National Guard. they didn't choose the military for fighting, they wanted to help AT HOME. It isn't their fault gwb and dc sent them overseas.”

Eggsackley replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 00:07:43

“The people who choose to serve our country deserve our support whether they are soldiers, police, or firefighters. The fact that we no longer have a draft is irrelevant.”

tssent replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 22:54:44

“And I don't mean the kind of education intentionally modeled
to keep our sons and daughters dumbed-down and made to
believe at 18 they can attain no greater achievement for their
country than to die for it.

That's why we keep having wars.

When we demand an educational system that jogs our brains
enough we'll stop having wars because we'll stop enlisting like
idiots in military organizations and consider that those who want
wars should be the ones to go fight them.....t­he presidents and
kings and premiers and queens and others who sit in the palace
writing beautiful speeches about the horror of wars and mean
people -- over a bottle of 1789 French wine. They like wars and
bloodletting and power so much? Let them go wrestle for it.”
Quitting Meat: A Process Of Change

Quitting Meat: A Process Of Change

Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 22:47:15 in Living

“Meatatarian?
I FKN LOVE IT”
Quitting Meat: A Process Of Change

Quitting Meat: A Process Of Change

Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 21:34:08 in Living

“See, I have a problem at the second level. Killing is killing. I don't thing you can
"kill humanely."

On the other hand, I make no apologies for Nature and therefore no apologies
for the fact that I eat meat. Dude, that's what I am. That's what we all are. We
weren't in on the design.

On the other hand it seems to me these same holy people are the ones who
are ok with the death penalty. Wars. To me, you kill or you don't. You either
allow abortion, the death penalty and jump all over wars, killing as many
people as you possibly can, or you don't kill.

It's like colors to me. There's blue and red and yellow and green and you
can put all the labels you want on them and the mixes they make but in
the end they're all colors. It's simple. I don't get how many people don't
get that.”
Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!

Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!

Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 10:35:42 in Living

“Saide, you will LOVE this audio at www.thesmokestop.com,
which is very much along the lines of your great article.”
Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!

Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!

Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 09:58:54 in Living

“Your association of the president's will power to solving the country's
problems is a total disconnect. He is not kept from making decisions
and acting upon them by cigarettes but by idiot wingnuts who vote
against anything he says or does or tries to improve because he is
Black.”
Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!

Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!

Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 09:55:30 in Living

“I have recently send President Obama an amazing 100-page book
called "The Smoke Stops Here," because while it will blow your mind
in concept it never once admonishes or even says, "you must quit."
I'm not related to this book but I would recommend it to anyone who
has any habit. It's a laugh a minute and filled with inspiration. It
certainly worked for me.”
Obama One Year Later: The Audacity of Winning vs. The Timidity of Governing

Obama One Year Later: The Audacity of Winning vs. The Timidity of Governing

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 18:07:48 in Politics

“Touche, my friend, touche.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 15:10:03 in Politics

“Great point.

The thing is, as the European and South American and
Central American and Mexican and Canadian and Australian
and other models of Socialism continue to outgrow us in
both concept and application, causing us to slide further and
further into subpar status world-wide ((we're not even in the top
20, let alone the top 10), we run the risk of disenfranchising the
next great mind, the individual who might have cured Alzheimer
or solved the energy crises or even united the world in peace
for the next 50 years.”

Bailey Reynolds replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 12:54:44

“This is a great conversation! Tssent has raised something that I have never considered before. Shame on me. A much bigger and unseen (by most) struggle at play: American Capitalism vs. Americanized Socialism. From our very birth, we are heavily indoctrinised into hating Socialism/­Communism. Most of us, without even realizing it, consider those forms of government heretical and anti-American. This subject deserves much more thought. Thanks for bringing it up.

*Raises glass*”

quintus replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 15:27:59

“This is a big problem. Americans, for the most part (or at least the ones I know) are largely ignorant about socialism and especially how it is working currently around the world.

Conservatives simply see it as more government interference in their lives (their irrational fear of "losing" their freedom) which translates as onerous restrictions of all kinds and a mechanism whereby their hard earned money is "unfairly" taxed ("Why do I have to pay ANY taxes?") and "given" to those who have been simply too lazy or too stupid to make their own bundle of cash. For those who are drowning (and that includes a lot of hard-working blue and white collar workers), well, that's simply not their concern, i.e., let 'em drown.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 14:07:07 in Politics

“10 whole months to do this and zero, nada, zilch, nothing.
I was personally expecting him to have repaired everthing
much sooner, like, by the end of January 2009 or at least
before Easter. Dude, what is it with this guy?”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 14:03:12 in Politics

“I saw it too and I was instantly convinced.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 14:01:56 in Politics

“Don't hold your breath.
Give the man his 4 years instead of 10 months, however,
before you give up "terribly disappointed".”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:58:12 in Politics

“When Obama's first 4 years have been completed, you can make your
accusations and charges then.

Or did I miss something? Was it his promise in his campaign to fix the
nation and world in 10 months so he could relax the remaining 3 years
and 2 months?”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:56:34 in Politics

“Yes, 10 whole months and he hasn't fixed the nation,
let alone the world. I think we need have a recall and
put Palin in charge.”

zaknick replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 15:57:06

“bla

bla

bla”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:55:39 in Politics

“Since when does a generalization speak for the majority?

In case you missed it, the INCUMBENTS were kicked out,
Democrat and Republican alike.

That speaks heavily in favor of Obama's continued high
54% rating.”

morganhoyle replied on Nov 06, 2009 at 13:13:33

“I was talking about number of people that voted, not the outcomes of the election.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:53:52 in Politics

“Yes, even an incremental man should have fixed the nation and
the world at the end of 10 whole months.”

suzc replied on Nov 06, 2009 at 09:18:43

“Of his three core promises, he's delivering on only one of them, as far as I can see.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:53:10 in Politics

“Well, considering more than 3 of those 4 years are in the future,
I for one am ready to say we can't know, at best. You have to
decide for yourself whether to be a turncoat or not. The vast
majority of us are still behind Obama and will be till the end.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:51:14 in Politics

“You can't preach BIPARTISAN
and then not practice it.”

GeorgiaOrwell replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 15:32:41

“You can't preach BIPARTISAN, and then practice it, and accomplish anything in this Congress - the facts speak for themselves.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:50:31 in Politics

“I agree. The nerve that Obama should take a day off or exercise a little
self-therapy on a quiet green where he can just be alone and thing.
The nerve he should sleep at night or stop for meals or go to the
bathroom. Dude, spot on.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:47:14 in Politics

“So far you're not sure? And already 10 whole months have passed.
Wow dude, how magnanimous of you. How patient. I'm inspired. Not.”

zaknick replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 15:47:59

“lol”

AxelDC replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 14:43:47

“Presidents have small windows to make big changes before they get swamped in elections. Obama has about 6 months until the mid-terms dominate the agenda, and then another 6 months, assuming he keeps Congress, before he goes into re-election mode.

Given that, he has already used up about 1/3 of his first term, so the window is closing fast.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:46:03 in Politics

“Ah ye of little faith, but worse
ye of little patience.

10 months into the catastrophy left behind by 8 years
of Bush, and you want everything to be fixed. Get a life.”

Chazet2 replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 19:44:50

“With the catastrophy came opportunity, almost all of which has been wasted shoring up the status quo. No change, no real progress. Compare this presidency with that of FDR or even Reagan.”

quintus replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 14:38:21

“Yes, the source, really, of many who are dissatisfied with the pace of change is unrealistic expectations, which came about after the catastrophe of 8 years of Bush/Cheney.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:43:36 in Politics

“Let me first say I'm a huge fan of and of Adrianna Huffington.

I'm a much bigger fan of America and of our president,
however, and I'm very concerned that good and important
people like Adrianna choose their words with
utter care, remembering they can fall on our largely
stupid citizenry in a way that suggests they have
fallen off the Obama wagon when they are only trying
to help.

We cannot expect a single man to make more of an
impact after the scant 10 months he's been in office
than President Obama has. We have to remember -- no
matter how much he was helped to victory by the likes
of the David Plouffes of the world -- that we largely
voted for Obama, the man.

That said, I would like to submit that the real
situation we're facing Obama and America today is being
discussed under a dozen names from Wall Street Mafia
to corruption at the highest levels of industry and
government to rape of the Constitution to a pitifully
waning educational system, to a deplorable state of
health care to a ruptured economy, etc.

We don't want to address the real situation,
Capitalism and its losing face-off with Socialism.

We're in absolute denial that Socialism is perhaps
the more beneficial model, despite the growing
evidence as our rankings in math and science
and health care,etc. slip further and further to positions
of 20th and 37th and 54th.”
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No Difference Between President Obama and Candidate Obama

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 13:42:59 in Politics

“Part 2 of 2

The fact is that this has happened because we have
modified Capitalism to take on characteristics that
are disturbingly like theocracies. Under this model
we use religion and the Bible just as Islam uses
the Koran to instill fear and patriotism in the
masses while a handful of men rake in the wealth
and the power.

I don't think Obama is one bit lost. I think
our slipping position in the world is on his mind
night and day in a way it does not bother most of
our dumbed-down, stupid citizenry. He doesn't want
to go down in history as the president who began
the conversion of America to Socialism but he
doesn't want to be the president who perpetuated
our current, disgraceful form of Capitalism either.

I believe "while everyone else is playing checkers
he's playing chess," as someone said of him, and
that he's trying to forge a new brand of Capitalism
while also requiring Capitalism to be its brother's
keeper.

I for one believe in him 100% and will defend
him to the end. I implore Americans to give
the man some breathing room. I am grateful
for the space allowed here by Huffington to
exercise our most precious liberty, freedom of
speech.”

Chazet2 replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 19:41:56

“Noble sentiments, but sorely misplaced loyalty. To date there has been a lack of leadership in the direction in which most Americans would like to see us move. And to maintain, from a position of faith, that Obama is playing chess while others are playing checkers is shear folly. You argue that we need all suspend disbelief yet again.”

starlady7 replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 12:33:51

“Thank you to both quintus and tssent for your comments..­. Your rational thoughtful opinions make the reading of the blogs enjoyable and help define the true issues. Through reading such opinions one knows there are thousands.­..millions of us in the same struggle to advance our country for all Americans!”

DickClark replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 09:02:19

“Excellent send.....Y­our "chess and checkers" quote is right on the mark.

Insightful­.....

Thank You!”

quintus replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 14:35:03

“I agree with you. I think it reflects a deeper look than many are doing right now.

The idea of democracy is about the promise of collective decision-making about collective action for a common good. Conservatives, on the other hand, only recognize individual goods, so, one could say that they are actually pushing America into being less democratic!

It's the difference between Jefferson and Madison. Madison distrusted the common man and the power of a central government. The result, and you see it clearly today, is a culture of individualism that emphasizes a pursuit of self-interest vs. a common good.

Those in the GOP align themselves more with Madison and basically want to be left alone (no regulations) to make a huge pile of money with no responsibility or obligation to the common good.”
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