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An Open Letter To President Obama On Afghanistan
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 17:27:29 in World
“Being against a completely unnecessary war that costs trillions of dollars while the economy is literally destroyed here at home is "posturing" ?”
An Open Letter To President Obama On Afghanistan
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 17:22:23 in World
“You must have missed the 100s of people that support anything Obama does, no matter how wrong, and who call anyone who disagrees a right-winger.”
Gibbs: Obama 'Delivered The Orders' On Afghanistan
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 17:17:20 in Politics
“Oh, lefties aren't allowed to be unhappy that he renewed the Patriot Act and gave immunity to the telcoms? And that people are still being sent away to be tortured, despite all the fanfare on TV about how that's over now? I must've missed that memo.”
An Open Letter To President Obama On Afghanistan
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 17:00:42 in World
“Not to mention that schools, hospitals, and the construction of them provide immediate jobs for normal people.”
An Open Letter To President Obama On Afghanistan
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 16:57:24 in World
“Because Obama indicated he would do this, that means we have no right to try to stop it from happening?
Go Democracy!”
Go Democracy!”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 30, 2009 at 08:27:31 in Business
“You`re br4indead. I support the immediate withdrawal from both wars, single-payer access to Medicare for all, including undocumented immigrants, legalization of drugs, gay marriage, etc.
On which of these issues am I further to the right than you?”
On which of these issues am I further to the right than you?”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 14:36:01 in Business
“"The frustration is that Obama's innate caution dictates incremental change, and given the enormity of the problems, that isn't good enough."
Agreed. But I'm not making a sweeping generalization either, I'm referring specifically to actual Bush-era programs which are continuing unabated, i.e. extraordinary rendition, warrantless wiretapping and other Patriot Act transgressions, blockage of the release of information related to past transgressions, TARP bailouts for the rich with no conditions but no real money for the people losing their homes, etc, etc.”
Agreed. But I'm not making a sweeping generalization either, I'm referring specifically to actual Bush-era programs which are continuing unabated, i.e. extraordinary rendition, warrantless wiretapping and other Patriot Act transgressions, blockage of the release of information related to past transgressions, TARP bailouts for the rich with no conditions but no real money for the people losing their homes, etc, etc.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 14:32:49 in Business
“"spread the thinnest veneer they could over what they were doing, making it appear (whenever they even cared to do so) that they were "for us".
Yeah, that sounds just about like the health care "reform" we're witnessing right now.”
Yeah, that sounds just about like the health care "reform" we're witnessing right now.”
Get Ready for the Obama/GOP Alliance
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 14:30:05 in Politics
“Canada. It's one of the few countries in the west NOT doing these criminal bailouts, because the banks were responsibly governed. Proper health care and habeus corpus don't hurt either.”
Dr Jimmy and Mr Jim replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 13:26:21
“I see your point.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 10:18:08 in Business
“Nobody here will comprehend what you are saying, much less believe you. You will just be accused of being a right wing shill, even though many of these same criticisms appear in articles on this very site. Then, after having falsely relegated you to that category, they will consider themselves free to go back to not thinking.
It's the Bush years all over again, not only in the continuation of the same failed policies, but also the bleating horde of sleep-walking apologists are there in full force to drown out any criticisms, regardless how valid.”
It's the Bush years all over again, not only in the continuation of the same failed policies, but also the bleating horde of sleep-walking apologists are there in full force to drown out any criticisms, regardless how valid.”
grandtrunk road replied on Nov 28, 2009 at 11:05:45
“"It's the Bush years all over again, not only in the continuation of the same failed policies"
I am not an Obama apologist, but I know a sweeping generalization when I see one. Part of the problem is that this Administration has been singularly incommunicative so that our reference point is always Bush when in fact Obama is tackling health care and economic and environmental issues in a way that would have been unthinkable in the Bush Administration. The frustration is that Obama's innate caution dictates incremental change, and given the enormity of the problems, that isn't good enough.”
I am not an Obama apologist, but I know a sweeping generalization when I see one. Part of the problem is that this Administration has been singularly incommunicative so that our reference point is always Bush when in fact Obama is tackling health care and economic and environmental issues in a way that would have been unthinkable in the Bush Administration. The frustration is that Obama's innate caution dictates incremental change, and given the enormity of the problems, that isn't good enough.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 10:06:12 in Business
“co-sign.”
Sharon1951 replied on Nov 28, 2009 at 10:28:45
“You too. Brilliant.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 10:03:18 in Business
“Nobody here will comprehend what you are saying, much less believe you. You will just be accused of being a right wing shill, even though Arianna herself is making many of these same criticisms. Then, after having falsely relegated you to that category, they will consider themselves free to go back to not thinking.
It's the Bush years all over again, not only in the continuation of the same failed policies, but also the bleating horde of sleep-walking apologists are there in full force to drown out any criticisms, regardless how valid.”
It's the Bush years all over again, not only in the continuation of the same failed policies, but also the bleating horde of sleep-walking apologists are there in full force to drown out any criticisms, regardless how valid.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 09:41:59 in Business
“I don't see you making any arguments of substance anywhere. Simply accusing any dissenters of being right-wing is the same kind of empty tactic practiced by Limbaugh's st00ges.”
golferman replied on Nov 30, 2009 at 05:10:18
“I don't try to argue with you f00ls. I have learned over the years that no matter what you tell them they will never ever change thier minds, NEVER. I just like to laugh at id10its when they make an ignorant comment. A good hard laugh is good for you. At least that is what my doctor tells me. And you people are diffently good for some really good laughs.”
golferman replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 16:43:09
“HP filter from h311 won't let my answer go through but use your imagination. I mostly resd because I know from years of dealing with rethugs that they will not believe their lying eyes and they will never change thier minds. And if a wingnut comes on a liberal board they will never change thier mind, never. So I just read and whaen I read something that so big of a lie that I start laughing I have to let the user know how funny and stupid thier statement was. So now Be Gone!!!”
golferman replied on Nov 29, 2009 at 16:36:45
“F001, they are right wing. ROFLMAO. And chopping down limpballs is not going to fool anyone. ur a wingnut so don't try to come off as anything but a wingnut.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 09:40:24 in Business
“The only thing you f00ls are capable of is straw-man arguments. I oppose Obama because he is not liberal enough...”
golferman replied on Nov 30, 2009 at 05:06:10
“ROFLMAO more liberal than us f00ls. Here wait, now pay attention.. ROFLMAO You are about as far right as you get.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 09:38:57 in Business
“You're right that the telcoms thing was pre-election; so that it means it magically doesn't reflect on his character any more?
He renewed the Patriot Act as a President and it speaks to the same issue. It's like a double broken promise, one during the campaign and then again a month ago. He called the Patriot act "shoddy and dangerous" and pledged to dump it, then renewed it.
Here is a link about his promise on telcom immunity.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/06/21/politics/horserace/entry4200105.shtml”
He renewed the Patriot Act as a President and it speaks to the same issue. It's like a double broken promise, one during the campaign and then again a month ago. He called the Patriot act "shoddy and dangerous" and pledged to dump it, then renewed it.
Here is a link about his promise on telcom immunity.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/06/21/politics/horserace/entry4200105.shtml”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 03:31:34 in Business
“Yes, I agree with this too.”
nolabels replied on Nov 28, 2009 at 03:40:19
“That puts us in a tough spot because we have nothing else to argue about on this line... I usually just fan at this point... Done”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 03:22:42 in Business
“This whole 'everything Obama does is sacrosanct' thing is pretty tiresome.
You don't even pretend to acknowledge the issues being discussed, you merely assume that Obama is acting in our best interests. How is that different from what the Bush supporters did in the previous eight years?”
You don't even pretend to acknowledge the issues being discussed, you merely assume that Obama is acting in our best interests. How is that different from what the Bush supporters did in the previous eight years?”
Passenger57 replied on Nov 28, 2009 at 12:21:53
“How is it different, vorapalmusic? I'll tell you.
The Bush adminstration spread the thinnest veneer they could over what they were doing, making it appear (whenever they even cared to do so) that they were "for us". Otherwise, they just did whatever they wanted, and their supporters went along because most of his supporters that he cared an iota about - the wealthy, aka "his base' - benefitted from what he did.
Tax cuts for the....impoverished? No. Tax cuts for rich people to make them richer? you betcha!
Those supporters that weren't rich? They have a history of voting and supporting things that are against their best interests.
The difference with the Obama administration is that his supporters don't agree with everything he does - and aren't afraid to say so, like Bush supporters were.”
The Bush adminstration spread the thinnest veneer they could over what they were doing, making it appear (whenever they even cared to do so) that they were "for us". Otherwise, they just did whatever they wanted, and their supporters went along because most of his supporters that he cared an iota about - the wealthy, aka "his base' - benefitted from what he did.
Tax cuts for the....impoverished? No. Tax cuts for rich people to make them richer? you betcha!
Those supporters that weren't rich? They have a history of voting and supporting things that are against their best interests.
The difference with the Obama administration is that his supporters don't agree with everything he does - and aren't afraid to say so, like Bush supporters were.”
golferman replied on Nov 28, 2009 at 05:58:51
“Obama is a democrat isn't he. You people go ahead and keep on represnting the rich and the bible thumpers. Obama will keep on representing the rest of us.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 03:15:15 in Business
“Treading lightly is the extent of his capability.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 03:10:29 in Business
“Yeah well, you can blame that on an environment of uninterrupted corruption from both sides of the aisle spanning many decades...”
nolabels replied on Nov 28, 2009 at 03:15:32
“Actually, what I blame it on is people's inability to step away from their generalizations. See, because I agree with you yet I also believe that some causes need/deserve some powerful voices.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 03:07:12 in Business
“Some of the accomplishments are great, and many others are either empty gestures or have not actually occurred yet.
There are not a gigantic amount of broken promises, but the ones there are amount to pretty serious differences from what we were led to expect. How is granting immunity to the telcoms and renewing the Patriot Act consistent with Obama's statement of "change we can believe in"?
Is "it's only been ten months" an adequate response to this question? I don't think so.”
There are not a gigantic amount of broken promises, but the ones there are amount to pretty serious differences from what we were led to expect. How is granting immunity to the telcoms and renewing the Patriot Act consistent with Obama's statement of "change we can believe in"?
Is "it's only been ten months" an adequate response to this question? I don't think so.”
gtt replied on Nov 28, 2009 at 03:57:48
“His vote on immunity for the telecoms was case while he was in the Senate before he was elected. It was during the campaign - thus any voter had knowledge of this prior to casting his/her vote. Hardly a matter that a voter can now fault him for as a broken promise.
President Obama has not changed post election as others.”
President Obama has not changed post election as others.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 03:01:54 in Business
“Look, there are not as many broken promises as kept promises. The problem is, the broken promises are pretty significant, and the list of kept promises is inflated with a bunch of nonsense, like holding the first Seder at the White House, or ordering Gitmo to close (it isn't closed, and won't be in the foreseeable future--furthermore, there are numerous other Gitmo clones that no one is even pretending to close).”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 02:54:13 in Business
“crickets? again?”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 02:52:13 in Business
“Here's an article in TIME magazine about the guy responsible for the majority of progress Obama has had on these issues, Greg Craig. What happened to him? Obama pressured him out because he was never serious about these human rights issues:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1940537,00.html”
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1940537,00.html”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 02:49:55 in Business
“MoreDimensions: read carefully at my many and carefully supported statements. I make some mistakes and inaccurate statements at times, but no one has even attempted to refute the bulk of what I say.
Throw insults and names if you must, but you haven't responded to my facts either.”
Throw insults and names if you must, but you haven't responded to my facts either.”
Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
Commented Nov 28, 2009 at 02:44:36 in Business
“Hey, whatever you and Morgraine are doing behind closed doors should stay there.”
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