“"States Rights" so called, your 14th Amendment screed comes only after the first 13 Amendments...its a nonsense argument to see your state as a nation state...you are part of these UNITED STATES...so take your states rights argument and shove it. The south LOST the civil war. Get over it.”
“Finally someone is honest. Pathetic or not we never asked for your help so just help yourselves and vote for less federal government so you don't have to keep helping our pathetic people. By the way where are you from?”
AMERIKA on Mar 14, 2014 at 19:22:17
“I grew up in Africa...and I have lived here in Seattle for the past 35 years....I can tell you that I prefer my tax dollars not go to the South, and I wish they did not. Then you could stew in your own juices and eventually come crying to the North for relief!”
“If you keep pointing out the bad, I'll keep pointing out the positives, which means this conversation is going nowhere. Different strokes for different folks. When they want change they will make it happen just like the atheists and agnostics before us did. You degrading what they believe in right now is no more productive than an evangelist telling you, you are going to hell unless you find Jesus Christ.”
Neil Dunford on Mar 14, 2014 at 19:30:21
“It needs to be pointed out - religion is no "better", that no religion at all, but religion will mostly cherry pick to it's own positive.
I'm yet to see a Pope say - we do a lot of work in poor communities, we run hospitals and alike, but we also shield child rapists and our organisation's financial worth is so huge and so shady, that it's essentially incalculable.
And whilst you call it me, "degrading" what they believe, (which technically, I haven't, I've not said a word about their beliefs) - look at that graph and tell me I'm wrong about that.
Religion flourishes where there is least education.
In fact, their best "hope" for improvement, isn't religion - it's a decent standard of education.”
“"The precursor to the Internet was jumpstarted in the early days of computing history, in 1969 with the U.S. Defense Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET). ARPA-funded researchers developed many of the protocols used for Internet communication today." http://www.livescience.com/20727-internet-history.html”
“The Interstate Highway System gained a champion in President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was influenced by his experiences as a young Army officer crossing the country in the 1919 Army Convoy on the Lincoln Highway, the first road across America. Eisenhower gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system, the first "national" implementation of modern Germany's Autobahn network as a necessary component of a national defense system while he was serving as Supreme Commander of the Allied forces in Europe during World War II. He recognized that the proposed system would also provide key ground transport routes for military supplies and troop deployments in case of an emergency or foreign invasion.”
IgnatiusJReily57 on Mar 14, 2014 at 14:57:21
“And in t.ba.g world, it did nothing for civilian transportation.
The internet was created for military use as well.
I guess in t.ba.g land, that means it's off the list of things the government has provided to civilians.
Now you're going to tell us we went to the moon as a military venture as well.
Shall I go on with all the other things you can thank the "gubmint" for?”
“I agree with you, but if its available people will take advantage of it, and when people see others getting away with it, they join in making taking advantage of what was a good system the norm. That is exactly how we got here.”
oopsiedaisy on Mar 13, 2014 at 20:58:36
“If that is true, then by default a higher population of "those" people live in the south. I don't believe that. Most people I know in the south are hard workers who STILL need the help. I think that is why they are so embarrassed to admit that they are on welfare and deflect by calling welfare bad. People often say that northerners look down on southerners, but the truth is WE are more condescending to each other, than the Yankees are to us. WE make blanket statements like" anyone who is on welfare is LAZY". WE call them "takers" and sport bumper stickers about others not being "entitled" to OUR hard earned dollars. That is US not the North. We say these things and laugh at our parties KNOWING that statistically a few in that room are laughing along too ashamed for anyone to know THEY are the butt of our joke. WE say these things knowing that we have the highest teen pregnancy rates. Rates we have no intention of bringing down through sex ed or providing them with contraception. Teens who will be unlikely to take care of their kids because they didn't even graduate high school. Highest drop out rates is another dishonor we carry and we have no intention of fixing. WE are where WE are because of our own inaction to DO and BE BETTER. WE need to stop blaming Northerners and the Federal Welfare system for OUR problems.”
“Would you just do some research please? I'm done.”
IgnatiusJReily57 on Mar 14, 2014 at 07:03:33
“You were done the minute you tried to play your convoluted t.b.ag card. Now, according to you,anything the government has funded is for a military purpose, and therefore you can claim the "gubmint" has done nothing for you.
Shall I go on with all the other things you can thank the "gubmint" for?”
“Let me be clear, those are your policies at work.”
oopsiedaisy on Mar 13, 2014 at 19:37:10
“I don't have a problem with the policies of helping those in need in the south. But, since you made it clear that it is MY policy at work, then I have a right to knock at MY states door when they are hypocrites. Seriously, many in the south bash welfare and then take the most welfare dollars. "This stuff is awful. I'll take all I can get". The policy is supposed to be temporary and give us an opportunity to fix the problems that put us in a position to qualify for the aid. Instead of taking care of our residents, the majority choose to double down on the policies that made us the most dependent on Federal Aid. I know many who talk and vote "conservative" but cash the checks.”
“I agree with you but having a system that allows people on welfare to receive more money by creating more people on welfare is counter productive. At what point does it stop? Educated people that aren't on welfare do not have kids they can't afford, its the people that don't have an education that does. So we keep taking money from those that do to provide an education to those that statistics shows will always be at a disadvantage. Thereby continuing the cycle of inequality. Its an ethical quandary. Do you create a system,a welfare system that makes it possible for the population to keep growing faster even though we know there aren't as many opportunities. Or do we try to curb it? There isn't really any correct answer. By taking out welfare you hurt millions, but then you have to ask how many of those millions wouldn't have even existed if there wasn't a safety net. Both sides have very good reasons for the things they are doing.”
“It's not an attitude, well at least it wasn't to begin with. You all had your opportunity to do the things you wanted to do without any discrimination, and we just want the same opportunity. But for some reason you all think you have all the answers when clearly you don't your policies are just as failed as ours. The thing is you still push things that didn't even work for you. We don't want it to be where you have people choosing a derelict lifestyle because they know someone else will pay for it. We see your welfare state and want nothing of it. So we go against it. With that said if the people here don't like it then they can move to your state.”
Proud MN Democrat on Mar 13, 2014 at 14:47:07
“And if they move to my State which has a much lower of people on welfare than any state in the South they would actually have a chance to get a good education and a good job. Your policies have failed. Ours has not”
“I argue that with we didn't want your federal dollars in the first place. You all made it so that the federal government makes us pay those taxes, remember we want states rights and less federal control. But, if we are forced to pay we are definitely going to take the money. If you would vote for states rights all that money you pay would go directly to you, and we would no longer be your burden. Which is exactly what we want it to be like. Hence you have created the problem but are now complaining about it. How exactly does that make sense?”
“But do you want to be like New York or Detroit or even California, a huge expanse of concrete structures, people crammed on top of people, etc. That is cringeworthy to me. With welfare comes a population boom, and as the industries move here, people from outside are moving in. Then when those economies fail they will move to the next thing leaving wreckage in their wake. And these are the same people that claim to care about the environment. It just doesn't add up. They claim to care about our poor but when they become poor they move here for employment taking our much needed jobs. Then they have the gall to complain about it not being like home. Guess what, you ruined your home, don't come down here and expect to do the same thing. I don't see the problem in not following their footsteps.”
“You got me on the Tennessee thing bub. I mean its perfectly logical we would still be without electricity.
The Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways (commonly known as the Interstate Highway System, Interstate Freeway System, Interstate System, or simply the Interstate) is a network of freeways that forms a part of the National Highway System of the United States.
The Bureau of Public Roads asked the Army to provide a list of roads it considered necessary for national defense. In 1922 General John J. Pershing, former head of the American Expeditionary Force in Europe during the war, complied by submitting a detailed network of 200,000 miles of interconnected primary highways—the so-called Pershing Map.”
IgnatiusJReily57 on Mar 12, 2014 at 21:02:02
“You got me on the Tennessee thing bub. I mean its perfectly logical we would still without electricity.
---The point being, the South was completely backward at the time, and the "gubmint" brought you into the 20th century, at a time you were eating hay to survive.
Re: your insistence that the interstate system is for the military: I've been traveling the interstate for decades and have nary seen a military vehicle....and, when you talk on your new fangled cell phone, you can thank the gubmint for that too. Shall I go on?”