“I don't. I am one of the people who has been working to bring this cult down. And I've been writing about it since 1997, so don't presume I don't know what I'm talking about. I assure you I do. In depth.”
“Alas, cops don't learn from lawsuits because it's not THEIR money that makes up fines. It's your money, taxpayers. We need to sue abusive cops down to their socks. It's the only way they'll pay attention.”
“30+ years smoker here. Six months w/ vaporizer, haven't touched a cig at all. You're on the right track.
These people who baww about chemicals are totally ignoring the tons of garbage in a burning cigarette.
The sitch is analogous to the argument re birth control and abortion. It makes no sense to be against one thing that prevents the necessity of the other thing.
They don't want us to smoke around them. I can understand that. But I can't understand being opposed to something that's a good alternative to burning tobacco. I think it's the same people who just want to be obstructionist and not let anyone do anything at all because THE CHILDREN. WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!”
“I've been vaping for six months. I've tapered off on the strength of the fluid and haven't had a cigarette at all.
This writer also confuses ethylene glycol with propylene glycol. One is anti-freeze. The other is used in vaporizer fluid. It's one of the more common and very stupid mistakes people who don't do their research are using as an argument against vape pens.”
otbricki on Sep 8, 2013 at 21:59:49
“No, the author doesn't confuse the two. He states diethylene glycol, which has been found in some e-cigs.
It a pretty poisonous material. There is no reason for it to be present.”
“1.There are two kinds of glycol muddying the waters. The stuff in antifreeze is ethylene glycol. The stuff in e-cig fluid is Propylene glycol. Mistaking ethylene glycol for e-cig fluid is just ignorant, lazy journalism.
1A: This Greek study featured people drawing on e-cigs for TEN MINUTES at a time. Nobody does that.
2. Kids and teens can buy them. Without nicotine. Problem?
3. What do you think they should taste like? Ashtray Number 5? Yes, they come in a variety of flavors.
4. Laws regulating cigarettes do not apply to e-cigs for one reason: THEY ARE NOT CIGARETTES.
5. Vaporizor companies are spending money on advertising? Imagine that! Here's a new product they want people to know about.
6. Yeah, we can use vaporizors where cigarettes are banned. There is no second hand smoke.
7. It DOES help people stop smoking. Proof here.
8. Taxes? Why should I give a rat about how it's taxed? Why should YOU?
9. Yeah. Lots of young adults would use these in lieu of tobacco products. They're clean. They don't stink up the place and leave a grimy, stinky film on everything.
People aren't going to give up nicotine, so why don't you hysterical misinformation spreaders just enjoy the fact that fewer people are generating clouds of second hand smoke for you to inhale. They're generating water vapor, just like every other air-breathing mammal on the planet.”
Dirquist Vapington on Sep 18, 2013 at 22:19:41
“If the Greek study is the one that says it restricts breathing I read that article. It was only slight. They are correct that it does. There is no doubt about it. But if you go into the bathroom and run the shower and fill the room with steam it will have the exact same slight effect of constricting your breathing. Anything you put in your lungs is going to do that.”
otbricki on Sep 8, 2013 at 21:56:59
“Second hand vapor containing nicotine with an unknown health profile is something I don't want. Therefore I believe use of these products should be restricted from places like airplanes, restaurants, etc.”
“"Jonathan Kendrick was not a leader or a pastor, he was just a rank-and-file member. This is a tragic case where a member of a religious group has brought liability on the group for actions he alone may have taken."
McCabe conveniently overlooks the fact that this lawsuit was, in part, about a conspiratorial cover-up of the abuse.
How many times have you heard a religious representative claim that a criminal act was that of a rogue member? When church policy facilitates abuse or directs concealment, that's no rogue act of an individual.”
mcrawford259 on Jun 19, 2012 at 17:33:05
“He was a ministerial servant. Next step, ELDER. That is not R/F. The liablility is not bcause of HIS actions, it is because of THEIRS in not reporting him as was their legal duty at the time.”
cruzing9382 on Jun 18, 2012 at 19:52:46
“Where did they facilitate the abuse? They didn't stop her or her family from going to the authorities. In fact there was a documentry about this case a while back and it said that Kendrick was disfellowship. She waited years before she finally reported it to the authorities. The girl had parents, why didn't she tell them what was going on, why didn't they report it to the police? The JW's are not a law enforcement organization but a religous one. They can not go around whispering behind people's backs accusing them of crimes they haven't been charged with. Unlike other religions, they didn't move Kendrick from one congregation to another sheilding him from prosecution. She sued the JW organization in hopes of hitting deep pockets. I hope they win on appeal.”
A baby has drawn air. A fetus, particularly at the stage of development where abortion is permitted, is not a baby. It cannot survive outside the uterus. You can't dress it up and show it off to your friends. You may take it for a walk, but you have to bring the mother along.
A 20 WEEK FETUS IS NOT A BABY. GET THAT THRU YOUR SKULL.”
“Well, we won't tell you what to do with your fetus, Ed. Kindly return the favor.”
edtastic on Jun 19, 2012 at 11:08:07
“It's a democracy, you have to win elections to get your way. If more people are interested in protecting the fetus then your going to have to deal with the consequences. Try to win the debate instead of making it about something unrelated.”
“To be fair, they are excessively concerned with your baby...until it slides out the VAGINA.
Once it draws air, they don't want to help feed it, or give it medical care. They will fight like the dickens to keep you from aborting it, but will happily support the death penalty for it when it goes off the rails.
Logic is beyond these people's grasp. They make as much sense as a Wookie living on Endor.”