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My Mother's Gay Neighbors

Posted: 06/07/2012 7:44 am

This has been a complicated time for gay rights and gay marriage. On the one hand, Washington and Maryland joined the ranks of states that now legally accept it, bringing the number to six, plus two Native American tribes. On the other hand, when the New Jersey legislature passed a similar bill, Governor Chris Christie vetoed it.

And on another hand, President Obama recently came out in support of it and a Circuit Court of Appeals struck down as unconstitutional the "Defense of Marriage Act," which had banned it. But at almost the same time, North Carolina voted overwhelmingly to support an amendment to their constitution which would ban it.

When I try to make sense out of this, I think of my mother who passed away a few years ago. I live in Massachusetts and she lived in Oklahoma, and when she grew frail, I could seldom get home to help her. I felt awful about that, but she did have some wonderful friends who looked after her, including two old gay guys who lived across the street and who mowed her lawn, cleaned her gutters, and stopped in now and then to see how she was doing. They were -- as she put it -- "rescuing the old 'widder lady' in distress."

When she finally passed away, I spent a day walking the street telling her neighbors what had happened and saying good bye to old friends. When I came to the home of the two men across from her, no one was there and the insides looked empty, so I moved on to the next house where I saw a man whose daughter I had dated as a teen. I asked him what had happened to the guys next door and he said, "Well, that's an interesting story." Evidently new families had moved into the neighborhood who didn't know the two men and who were not like the older crowd, and they were upset that everyone had allowed "queers" to live so close by. Young parents, inspired by teachings of TV preachers and a nearby mega-church, were worried that these old men might become a danger to their children. They began organizing and talking to friends, and finally after several bitter encounters, the two moved away. I asked the neighbor if they had ever actually done anything wrong and he said no. Actually, he said, "they were pretty good fellas." But "they were queer and all, and they say that's bad, so I guess it is."

My own church denomination has struggled over this. Its public face is very open. We've ordained gays and lesbians for years, and in 2005 our national "General Synod" voted to affirm gay marriage. But at a local level, we've had thousands leave the church in protest. I lost a member just this year over it. I casually mentioned to him one day that I had once performed a wedding for two elderly women who met and fell in love while playing bridge. And the next day he came into my office and said he was leaving. He could stand divorce, drinking and obesity (all condemned in the Bible), but he couldn't bring himself to worship God in the same building as people who accepted others whose gender orientation was condemned in the Bible.

At one level I don't have a horse in that race. I'm happily heterosexual and have no interest in changing. And though I've recently experienced a painful failed marriage, so far as I know the prospect that my mother's friends might someday apply for a wedding license had nothing to do with it. But at another level I also can't imagine the pain of being driven from my home because of my gender orientation.

The Bible actually says very little about homosexuality, and some of the references are frankly unclear, and Jesus is totally silent on it. What he is not silent on is the need to love all people. Bring in the poor, the hungry, the outcast, the sick, the aliens, lonely and marginalized. He condemns wealth and war and oppression, but not two old men who love each other and mow lawns for neighboring widows.

I was present the year our church passed the resolution affirming gay marriage, and it was tense. After rancorous study and debates, the majority finally concluded that no matter how much one might argue the differentness of gays from straight people, they couldn't quite be convinced of the wrongness of it. How could God create human beings and then tell them not to love one another?

They took a leap of faith that day, praying that their actions were discerning the will of a still-speaking God. And I confess that I agreed with them.

I've been encouraged by the words of a Baptist preacher friend from Dallas who once told me that when he dies and stands before St. Peter at the pearly gates, and he hears a list of his lifetime's sins, he expects to hear a long list. But when all is said and done, he said he would much rather be judged for being too open minded than too closed. "If I'm going to make a mistake," he said, "I suspect God would rather it be a mistake of loving too many people into the kingdom than too few."

And, you know, I think I agree with that too.

 
 
 
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01:13 AM on 07/22/2012
This is a very uplifting thing to read! I like to talk to people that are willing to accept everyone as they are. The world really needs more people like this.
I remember when I first heard that NY had okayed gay marriage... I cheered at the top of my lungs, totally ignoring all the weird looks from the people at the bus station!
03:01 AM on 06/11/2012
Great post...very troubling that this happened in the US.

This post (or sermon I delivered at a Unitarian Universalist Congregation) sums up my point of view on faith. It's titled, "Do We Know What We Believe ...or Do We Simply Believe That We Know?!"
http://reasonable-thought.blogspot.com/2012/01/do-we-know-what-we-believe-or-do-we.html
08:08 AM on 06/10/2012
Lovely post. Thank you!
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Doug Sandlin
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10:48 PM on 06/09/2012
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"If I'm going to make a mistake," he said, "I suspect God would rather it be a mistake of loving too many people into the kingdom than too few."
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I'm an atheist .... but the only response that comes to mind, to that statement is:

Amen!
10:54 AM on 06/09/2012
Literal-minded, non-contextual readers of the Bible and Koran are only too pleased to use a few isolated scriptures to persecute and even murder those they consider heretics and sinners. It's been endemic in the history of these religions. I give thanks to God that there are Christians and Muslims in the world today who are moving against this history. They should expect to be punished for it by the fundamentalist crowd, but I believe with all my heart they are spearheads in the forward movement of the Holy Spirit.
11:16 PM on 06/08/2012
while I applaud any straight ally, there still remains the FACT that you use your time, energy, talent, to support an inherently flawed and socially disastrous institution.
You have stepped in to hawk how your organized religion has struggled to change, and want some kind of credit for that. During your church's struggle, the damage the doctrines of your church has done to humanity for the last several hundred years sits like a diseased elephant in the middle of the room.
Before you, there were "brave" and "enlightened" religious leaders who spoke out against the church's doctrines about beating one's wife and children. Before that, the "brave" stepped up to help out those poor poor people of other colors that the church's doctrine had classified as "less-than", instructing slaves to demur to their masters.
You know what? You wouldn't have to be so freaking brave if your church wasn't there in the first place! It's like Munchhousens (I can't spell it, so I did it phonetically), wherein the mother harms the child so she can be held up as a hero when she saves it.
How about this? Put your energy and talents to work someplace where you don't have to bravely condemn the very practices of the institution you are supporting. Are there no workhouses? Are there no prisons?
....sigh....
03:40 PM on 06/09/2012
Sorry but I have to disagree. The fact that bad things happen in churches does not necessarily mean that churches are bad. It simply means that bad influences are everywhere. All of those things have been done by people with no religious affiliation too. It isn't just religion that is prone to abuse and corruption. It's humanity. And that's where we need to concentrate our energies - all of humanity, not just religious pockets.
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aviandonn
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12:29 AM on 06/10/2012
But there's something especially obnoxious about abusive corrupt people who are doing it for Jesus. And while individuals may do bad things, they stand on their own excuses. That's not the same as an institution with power and influence condoning those same behaviors and claiming divine blessings.
03:36 PM on 06/10/2012
Okay...you opened the door: "allof those things have been done by people with no religious affiliation":
Name them.
What organizations, institutions, whatever, have consistently fought against scientific advancement? against human evolution? What institution or construct has consistently used violence, separation, social and political power to subjugate "others"?
That had NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.
Go ahead. I'd really be interested in being educated on this subject.
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TheBluesGuy
I'm too old to be governed by fear of dumb people.
12:45 AM on 06/10/2012
I agree completely, CRandallB. Fanned and faved.
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Konnie
Really South Carolina??
10:58 PM on 06/08/2012
i have several lgbt friends, neighbors, family members, we all have.. one man i worked with for 30 years in a time when that was just not talked about openly. everyone knew he was gay. once a new manager (former military lifer) was hired and in no time at all he had targeted this man and made every effort he could to get him fired. not surprisingly the rest of the straight men in the office circled the wagons and our gay co-worker survived and the new manager lost his job. i think those of us who actually know real lgbt people up close and personal, know the fear mongering and prejudice is just ignorance and mob mentality. and a whole lot more of "maybe i am too"
than anyone wants to admit.
charlie5150
evolution happens for some
02:38 AM on 06/10/2012
I don't think a person can exist without knowing someone lgbt, they just don't have have "gaydar" so are are oblivious. Then there is the opposite, and I've always found it fascinating how often times even a gay person doesn't realize they are gay (perhaps in denial?), but everyone around them knows.

Regardless, we are all human beings and should treat everyone with respect. You never know when you may need help and cannot be picky about who provides it.
07:43 PM on 06/08/2012
"and some of the references are frankly unclear" Yeah, keep telling yourself that. St. Paul literally coins a term which means "male + bed" and you people still keep insisting that the passages are "unclear". You can repeat the same lies all you want but in the face of the overwhelming evidence, your ridiculous re-interpretation crumbles into pieces.
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05:50 PM on 06/09/2012
Wow... so you think that St. Paul was God, archie? The truth is, he was a fallible human being, and you have no proof that his personal opinions match those of God. Jesus never spoke a single word against gays, so please, stop repeating lies.
04:48 AM on 06/10/2012
If he wanted to mean gay sex, why coin a new word when there were plenty already available?

(Also the whole "Paul ≠ God" thing.)
09:55 PM on 06/16/2012
They weren't any available. Since there was no concept nor word for "homosexuality" as we know it today, St. Paul coined that word so that they wouldn't be any misunderstanding.
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shaundominic
Just a gay guy living the dream with my partner, o
05:54 PM on 06/08/2012
Thank you for sharing those words - it really is shame that they are not more prominently posted on this site the way all the words of hate from other religious leaders are. Your mother was very lucky to have those guys in her life - and so was the rest of the street I am sure as well. There are a lot of areas of the country where there is so little community that it is nice to see anyone helping out and befriending people who live on the street.

I would have to say shame on the church for preaching that they should not be trusted, shame on the couple that instigated the movement to harass them out of their house but mainly for the rest of the street for not standing up for them. If they went out of the way to look after one person on the street then I am sure they would have done the same for others. To stand by and not speak up to protect them is very wrong, and speaks volumes about their compassion.
11:41 PM on 06/17/2012
I agree. In many ways to me the real villains may have been the other neighbors. I don't know all of the story--I didn't live there when it happened--but it looks like they had lived with these trusted friends for decades and yet let them be hounded out of the neighborhood without standing up for them. My impression is that they just stood by passively and allowed evil to take over.
05:35 PM on 06/08/2012
I'm always amazed when people say Jesus was silent on the subject of homosexuality. At the beginning of Matthew 19, Jesus clearly says God made us male and female and marriage is a man leaving his father and mother to join with his wife--not his "partner." I'm not a militant anti-gay by any means, but you ruin your credibility when you misrepresent the words of the Christ whose name you claim.
03:43 PM on 06/09/2012
Jesus said nothing about homosexuality. That doesn't mean that he never said anything. And it doesn't mean that those passages intend to show he supported only male/female unions. There is much to interpret, both in those passages alone and in the gospel of Jesus in its entirety. To try to encompass all of his views in that one statement would be more than a little premature.
04:00 PM on 06/09/2012
Jesus was specifically responding to a question about whether divorce was ok. It's pretty misleading to take that out of context. However, in Matthew, he did specifically state that people were supposed to honor the commandments, including Love thy neighbor as you love thyself. It definitely didn't say anything about hounding people from their homes for living a lifestyle you don't approve of.
04:13 PM on 06/08/2012
Thank you, Pastor Stan.
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SymoneSayz22
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03:50 PM on 06/08/2012
With all of the other preachers we have heard screaming hate from the top of the lungs recently this was refreshing. I am saddened tho that these kind words won't go viral the way the pastors who preach hate go viral. Not even close.

Pastor Stan, where is the video of your sermon on this subject matter???
11:50 PM on 06/17/2012
I should do that because you're not the first person to ask that. I have told this story in sermons a couple of times, but unfortunately I don't have videos (or even notes and manuscripts) of my sermons.
03:31 PM on 06/08/2012
I wish the guys were MY neighbors! They would be honored by my church and neighborhood, and so would I be to have them. BTW, the Episcopal Church welcomes everyone.
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rmjagg
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01:21 AM on 06/09/2012
" the Episcopal Church welcomes everyone. " ... as do the Quakers ...
02:52 AM on 06/11/2012
And Unitarian Universalist Churches
And Zen Buddhism

UCC (the church this pastor is from) had some pretty cool tolerance adds a few years back.

Glide Memorial in San Fran is also pretty cool!
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aviandonn
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12:18 AM on 06/10/2012
We had many Episcopal parishes here in virginia vote to secede from the Episcopal church recently over it's stance on Homosexuality. Some that remain aren't exactly welcoming. Interestingly, these pious people who just could not tolerate homosexuals opted to alighn themselves with the Anglican church and it's Bishop in Nigeria, who has called for the execution of gays. Apparently the good episcopalianss felt that is a more moral and Christian stance than accepting gays.

The most 'everyone's welcome' church I've ever known is the Unitarian church.
02:55 AM on 06/11/2012
Being a life long UU, I can generally attest to this statement, although UUs had some difficulties accepting people who wanted to have a spiritual path for a decade or so. I think we sometimes forget that we affirm and promote a free and responsible search for truth and meaning. For a while anyone was welcome, but atheists were the ones who were really welcome. ironic huh!?
12:13 PM on 06/08/2012
As our church became more open about being open, one family left because they didn't want their children around "those people." Hey, good luck with that!
02:56 AM on 06/11/2012
True, 1 in 10 people are born gay (someone can correct me if I got that statistic wrong)
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nonChristian
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11:41 AM on 06/08/2012
As a gay person I am not big on the displays of sexuality and religion but if such situation were to come up I will rub my sexuality/religion in their faces till they kill me.

Forget moving out.....