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Right-wing buffoon Rush Limbaugh takes a swipe at Iraq veterans who oppose the war... who can defend themselves quite nicely, if they even feel inclined to respond to this kind of schoolyard boy-baiting.
Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny. (And you can gasp as theatrically as you want... I spent more than two decades wearing a uniform... that is exactly what it is.)
How is it that a pill-popping nitwit like Limbaugh can be the punching bag for these ritual displays of opportunistic nationalism, and there is no outrage from the same quarters about the fact that the Democratic majority in Congress now has it within its collective power to stop this war right goddamn now... and refuses to do so?
The Washington Post released a poll today, conspicuously absent from this site, showing that four out of five Democrats in the US want the war defunded -- defunding the war is an action that is not vulnerable to a Presidential veto, so that bogus little hidey-hole just closed -- yet Democratic members of Congress are deaf to their constituents (holding their hands over their ears is more accurate).
This is exactly the reason we have to take all the risks attendant in 2008 of allowing this edifice of perfidy and political irrelevance to crumble.
Any Democrat who votes to give another dime to this bloody, cynical criminal enterprise in Iraq should automatically be handed a defeat by people of conscience who have voted for them in the past... by withholding that vote. Until we exercise this one power we have right now, we will be subordinated to the good cop - bad cop system of Democrat versus Republican.
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I thought the phony soldiers were the ones making ten times as much as real ones and exempt from criminal punishment. We were caling them contractors. They've been behaving like sport hunters of dark-skinned human prey. Without the sportsmanship.
In our discourse we have been stepping around the problem. We've got to start talking about the bigotry that's fueling the right wing electorate.
We never spoke about the bottle in Gramma's purse until she started to wreck the place with a stick. The time has come.
grayforester
"....dark-skinned human prey"
Racism just flows naturally from you huffkids doesn't it.
Rush Limbaugh did not take a swipe at our soldiers. He took a swipe at those who pretend to have served in Iraq so they can tell anti-American lies that the left can use to denigrate the Bush administration. Reid, Murtha and the Dems running for president know this but need something to counter the moveon.org ad that so embarrassed them.
bean22-please. Stop insulting the intelligence of anyone who can listen. The 'Mike'(caller) Limbaugh (host) exchange is clearly implying that the soldiers that the MSM produce that speak out against the war, are 'phoney' soldiers. And that if the MSM would interview 'real' soldiers they would all support the current Iraq policy.
Goff is correct in this blog. This non-sense and waste of effort debating who said what and whose feelings are hurt is ridiculous. I don't want our foreign policy developed by the military. The Consitution ensures that our foreign policy is not under the direction of the military. So lets stop using our military personnel as shuttlecocks when debating foreign policy.
The function of our military is to ensure our safety from foreign enemies and support our countries policies, not to become an excuse for them.
Very well said.
akoop (See profile | I'm a fan of akoop)
". I don't want our foreign policy developed by the military. The Consitution ensures that our foreign policy is not under the direction of the military. So lets stop using our military personnel as shuttlecocks when debating foreign policy.
The function of our military is to ensure our safety from foreign enemies and support our countries policies, not to become an excuse for them.
I know a guy that is a real honest to god extreme right wing nutjob. And like Rush Limberger it becomes totally boring after a while, its kind of like a computer loop used to be, over and over and over, Bill OReally, Faux news, blah blah blah. These people are so tunneled visioned. Then its the religious blah, blah blah. I think they all took to much acid at a young age and blew their intelligence and emotional balance, they either listen to Talk Radio, or are on talk radio, where did Limberger get the connections to be where he is anyhow?? its all so stupid!!!
If only, someone could have told you, before you invested in on these tedious proses, it's a LIE.
I am no big fan of Limbaugh's, frankly the sound of the man's voice gets on my nerves.
He respects our service men and woman to much to refer to anything but a phony soldier as a phony soldier, such as Jesse Macbeth. He NEVER served in Iraq or any other War zone.
Than before him there was the phony blogs of Scott Beauchamp. Also Franklin Foer.
If someone was once addicted to drugs, pain pills, booze etc., should someone like you, bring it up even after they recovered from their addiction? OK, go ahead, but recite all the other names of those once addicted. Need some help remembering them? The list is filled with recognizable names.
Oh Good. He's recovered then? He needs to double time it over to Iraq for some real action, don't you think? Yeah he's old but so were many of the "original" Crusaders. Like Reagan said,"one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist."
The real issue isn't what was said but who said it. General Clark, Senator Murtha, or even you could have said the same thing and I would take it as an at least informed opinion thats has a grounding in real world experiance. But ole Rush commenting on the military is like having Fat Albert critique diet plans.
I'm with you Stan. No congressional, senatorial, or presidential candidate gets my vote w/o a clear "end the occupation now" stance. Simple as that.
Limbaugh is a joke. The loudest war hawks are those who never served. Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Cheney, Hannity to name a few. Someone who has tasted battle and had friends die in their arms could not possibly be so eager to send other young men and women to their deaths.
Our culture is getting more militaristic than in the past. Network anchors sport American flag pins on their lapels. The White House uses natinal security as a predicate not to disclose information and to quash legal challenges. The New York Times is accused of helping the enemy for revealing the government's illegal wiretapping program.
Although conservatives try continuously to co-opt the military and its values, the military doesn't represent Republican party values, as it does not represent Democratic party values. It, as a fighting force, represents our collective values. It should be used only as a last resort, as we have traditionally. We, as a culture, are plunging forward into a brave new world of unilateralism at our own grave peril.
http://www.harvardregiment.org/holmesfa.htm
"I do not know what is true. I do not know the meaning of the universe. But in the midst of doubt, in the collapse of creeds, there is one thing I do not doubt, that no man who lives in the same world with most of us can doubt, and that is that the faith is true and adorable which leads a soldier to throw away his life in obedience to a blindly accepted duty, in a cause which he little understands, in a plan of campaign of which he has little notion, under tactics of which he does not see the use."
(Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., 1895)
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the overall impenetrability of American Propaganda can be measured by the fierce resistance of the psyche again 9/11 Truth.
it seems that the process of understanding the nature of state power is always an existential crisis. and an organism constantly in crisis cannot survive. so the ability to find a ground of serenity in the face of cold brutal reality is indispensable.
Ignore him or listen just for laughs - But Do Not encourage legislation to shut him up- they're baiting so that legislation will be passed- Boxer fed right in to it.
As for the majority of dems who have not merely caved - they have paved the way for this corrupt regime. As far as I'm concerned I'm voting for anybody but a career politican. I'm looking for the public servant who is also a statemen.I've had so much smoke blown up my ass- I'm getting cancer from the bottom up.
Well - I guess I was hasty on that comment about the continuing resolution - I missed the fact (since for some reason the MSM isnt covering it at all) that the Senate passed the defense budget yesterday by a vote of 92-3
Thanks Stan for keeping your eye on the ball. Limbaugh can't send troops to Iraq or pull them out. If the Democrats want to get their panties in a knot then they know where to start.
Your point is well taken, but I think you take undercut the genuine outrage at the insult to every individual who did his or her duty, not to every individual who was a soldier.
I met 'phony' soldiers when I was a draftee in the army from '69 to '71. We called them 'skaters' and nobody cared what they thought about the war. Not that we didn't all skate at times, but these guys did it when it was important. But, it wasn't Viet Nam, it was Germany, so it don't mean nothin.
If people would just take the time to do their own research they would see just how the Democrats are lying about Rush Limbaugh and his comments about "phony soldiers".
Like I posted yesterday, I give credit where credit is due and I admire you for writing the truth about what is and is not going on in Washington.
Keep up the good work.
Actually - all of the Dems as well as the Reps just voted to give more funds for the war on Thursday - although it wasnt covered by the MSM - they gave him $9 bill outright and access to some $70 bill more - it was all in the continuing resolution budget bill
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