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Addiction: Fruit Flies Create AA Group!

Posted: 12/18/09 05:36 PM ET

News Item: Like humans, fruit flies that get intoxicated on alcohol can become addicted and keep drinking regardless of the consequences. (One addiction news digest headline called the critters "Buzzed Fruit Flies.") Researchers at the University of California at San Francisco indicate this phenomenon will allow us to better understand how alcoholism works, U.S. News and World Report concluded in a stunning article, "Fruit Flies Can Be Alcoholics Too."

The scientists studied the behavior of Drosophila melanogaster who (or is it "that"?) were given the option of drinking alcohol. They found that the flies consumed food spiked with alcohol faster than plain food, and they wanted more alcohol over time.

That's alcoholism all over! People just keep drinking like - well - fruit flies. But, wait a moment, don't some people, after they get drunk a few times, decide to cut back on their drinking or not drink at all? After all, I have heard people say, "I get silly if I have more than a glass of wine - so that's all I'll drink."

I mean, don't human beings exercise some choices in line with their values? I know a lot of people who have quit smoking after being addicted. The reason they quit (or didn't start in the first place even if they were drawn to it) is because of, well, their values. They want to be healthy. They don't want people to think they are addicts. They don't want their kids imitating them in an addiction or, when pregnant, they don't want to pollute their babies.

And how do fruit flies become alcoholics, really? I mean, the alcoholics I knew blacked out, sneaked drinks and hid bottles, ran out to convenience stores to get six packs in the middle of the night, and had promiscuous sex. Can the flies do that? (I know they have promiscuous sex, but don't they do that sober?)

I had trouble in biology classes in high school and college because I asked all sorts of impertinent questions like these. Here I go again! Do fruit flies have similar kinds of feelings to humans about sex? (Are there slut fruit flies?) In terms of what might make them quit drinking, do they have similar feelings to us about pregnancy? Do they have pregnancy? Do they have intercourse or oral sex? Do they practice tantric sex? Hey, I'm getting way off topic.

Let's focus for a moment on the other end of the process. Let's say the Drosophila malanogasters (is it too late for me to retake that biology final? - I'm feeling so knowledgeable) become chronic inebriates. After talking to their pastor or their uncle in Alcoholics Anonymous, do some decide to join AA? I mean, what the heck do they say at the beginning of the meeting - you know, the part where you are supposed to admit you are an alcoholic and you're powerless over alcohol?

"I am powerless over alcohol-spiked fruit fly food." That just doesn't sound right. Maybe they can stick to the plain, "I am powerless over alcohol." That's better. But they can't talk, can they. Maybe they can dance that message out (or am I thinking of bees - did I mention my problems in biology class?). "I'm (two step) an alcoholic (dip) for life (twirl)." But, wait a second - don't fruit flies live only days? How will they do 30 meetings in 30 days?

I can see we're going to have to go back to the laboratory on this one.

 
 
 

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News Item: Like humans, fruit flies that get intoxicated on alcohol can become addicted and keep drinking regardless of the consequences. (One addiction news digest headline called the critters "Buzz...
News Item: Like humans, fruit flies that get intoxicated on alcohol can become addicted and keep drinking regardless of the consequences. (One addiction news digest headline called the critters "Buzz...
 
 
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01:18 AM on 01/12/2010
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07:53 AM on 12/21/2009
These people have it too. But there is money to be made in perpetuating a system that has nothing to offer. It inures to stakeholders.
I did not drink for 17 years. Total sobriety is not all it's cracked up to be.
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MNKen
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07:08 PM on 12/21/2009
"Total sobriety is not all it's cracked up to be."

Yes it is...if it involves more than just not drinking. An alcoholic abstaining from booze, without changing anything else, is just a dry drunk. Alcoholism makes us unable to deal with life on life's terms, so we have skewed views of relationships and the world around us. We cannot focus on anything but "ME"

True sobriety means learning how to live our lives as productive people, healing relationships and building new, healthy ones. All without chemical assistance. Does not sound as though you found that path. I wish you well and hope you find what you are looking for.
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04:58 AM on 12/21/2009
why are being so snarky??
If you think AA is silly and ineffective and your books hold the answer, just say so.
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Stanton Peele
The meaning of addiction
06:14 AM on 12/25/2009
In this case I'm reflecting that the entire human experience involved in human alcoholism and its resolutions exceeds fruit fly research parameters.
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ThermoChemist
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02:08 AM on 12/21/2009
Article:
"Researchers at the University of California at San Francisco indicate this phenomenon will allow us to better understand how alcoholism works.."

Palin...wrong again (...when she mocked the scientific benefits of fruit fly research).!

"...You've heard about, um, these -- some of these pet projects they really don't make a whole lot of sense, and sometimes these dollars they go to projects having little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not!"

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In Case You Weren't Scared Enough: Palin on "Fruit Fly Research"
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Stanton Peele
The meaning of addiction
06:06 AM on 12/25/2009
This calls for a complicated response. I believe in fruit fly research - but not in regards to human alcoholism - which, for better (people quitting because of their values, maturity, social obligations) or worse (drinking in response to social chaos or group pressure) is a purely human phenomenon.
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12:44 AM on 12/21/2009
I think all your fruit fly sex questions are legitimate. You probably could have figured most of them out yourself if you watched the fruit flies long enough.
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MNKen
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09:25 PM on 12/20/2009
This was a hoot !! I have been sober 11+ years and have sent this to several people in my AA club.

"But, wait a second - don't fruit flies live only days? How will they do 30 meetings in 30 days?" Guess only someone who has been there can appreciate the humor. (It is hilarious!)

Thanks for the laughs Dr. Peele.
12:36 PM on 12/20/2009
Fruit flies are a model organism that can be used to study the physical basis of addiction. I would have thought that an addiction expert would support, or at least understand, this.
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04:26 PM on 12/20/2009
Yeah, he got too cute by half...This is too serious a subject to treat so lightly.
08:42 AM on 12/19/2009
Great post. It seems the UCSF study "flies" in the face of the endless stream of propaganda spewed by the billion-dollar recovery industry.
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04:28 PM on 12/20/2009
If the "study" were conducted on a scientific basis, it might be acceptable, but this was just blather. There is a reason the recovery "business" is a billion dollar venture. The "have mores" are willing to spend anything to move the problem from their front door. Easier to pay someone than to dig in and help. Addiction is a mental illness and needs to be treated as such...
06:19 AM on 12/21/2009
I never thought of it from that perspective. My thinking is that those who own the "rehabs" (even that term is offensive) are invested in selling snake oil. They are raking in the profits. They do this by preying on frustrated, confused and vulnerable family members. Creating entities called something like 'Future Promises" and guaranteeing that the patient will change (if he wants it bad enough). What a load of crap.

As for the elites wanting to remove the problem from their front door? The "problem" is endemic. These people have it too. But there is money to be made in perpetuating a system that has nothing to offer. It inures to stakeholders.
I did not drink for 17 years. Total sobriety is not all it's cracked up to be.