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We Don't Believe Alcohol's Good For You!

Posted: 08/19/10 06:00 PM ET

My recent post on the "hidden" benefits of alcohol -- hidden, because ... well, I'll get back to that -- elicited many comments, and many negative ones (along with the stupid ones -- you know, where someone says, "Sure alcohol is good for you," and writes like he's intoxicated). Rather than answer all these comments separately and piss people off individually, I thought I could piss everybody off more efficiently with this follow-up post.

"It's Rubbish! No such thing as moderate drinking habits."
This is an American temperance comment par excellence. Temperance advocates (and they were legion) argued that moderate drinking inevitably led to alcoholism (which they called chronic drunkenness or inebriation) in the same way that Alcoholics Anonymous today says alcohol effects the minority of drinkers who are alcoholics. As for what comprises moderation, the Dietary Guidelines for Americans says one to two drinks daily (for both women and men). The New England Journal of Medicine article I discussed offers the same figure, since the death rate was the lowest at 1-2 drinks daily for older Americans. However, even those who drank four or more drinks daily in that study had the same, or lower, mortality rates as long-term abstainers.

"These reports having been driving me crazy because after working as a nurse for over twenty years I know better. I have to wonder who is on these committees who issue these statements and who they are affiliated with. We know most of the government agencies and committees are staffed with flexians from industry. I tell women to limit their drinking to three drinks a week and men five drinks. When people start doing something that is addictive everyday, they are addicted to it."
This is a very important comment. It discounts the results on the unexamined (actually, counterfactual) assumption that this body of research (which is massive) was funded by the industry. My post states that the NEJM study was conducted by the American Cancer Society. The Dietary Guidelines are a government publication produced by the Departments of Agriculture and Health and Human Services. The chair of the Guidelines alcohol subcommittee is Eric Rimm, co-director of Harvard's Health Professionals Study, which has tracked health behavior and outcomes among doctors and nurses for decades.

But what is most significant about this post is its assumption that daily drinking must be addictive -- a very American outlook. In the United States today, 50 percent of 21 year old binge drink. This is truly astounding since only 70 percent of them drink; in other words, of 21-year-olds who drink, 70 percent regularly binge drink! If we dial back to the Monitoring the Future study of high school students, many 18-year-olds disapprove of adults drinking one to two drinks daily (the style that prolongs life) but not of having five or more drinks at one sitting on weekends -- the kind of drinking that leads to accidents and high death rates. So, in her labeling daily drinking addictive, this health professional commenter contributes to a binge mentality associated with higher drinking mortality.

"There are a lot of studies showing health benefits from moderate drinking. But recall there were many "studies" showing smoking to be beneficial back in the 50's and 60's. Tobacco companies had a lot to do with such studies and their results."
It is worth getting into the thinking behind this comment. The writer puts alcohol and cigarettes in the same category, which is warranted inasmuch as they are both commercially sold drug products capable of producing addiction. Moreover, growing up in America, many are tempted to think of them as equivalent items on some kind of morals scale -- i.e., a person who doesn't drink or smoke is better in some sense than one who does only one, or certainly both.

But the comment is wildly out of touch with the actual universe. The reason we know this? Because, at its base, epidemiological research is counting up outcomes for people who behave one way or another. As soon as researchers began tracking smokers and comparing them with nonsmokers, they found smokers got cancer AND heart disease more frequently and died earlier.*

What about drinkers? As soon as epidemiologists started following drinkers and abstainers, they found that drinkers had less heart disease and as a result lived longer. How do I know this? Because the Framingham Heart Study -- the first such community study of heart disease -- found this result in the early 1970s. But here's what is crucial to know. In 1974, Harvard investigator Carl Selzer noted this result -- but the National Institutes of Health, which funded the study, refused to allow Selzer to publish it (as he revealed belatedly, in 1997).

Why did this occur? Because the United States has a strong anti-alcohol bias -- like these commenters and much of the public health establishment. Drinking is bad, and they will never believe otherwise.

In regards to Framingham, let's dial forward some 30 years. In 2007, PBS produced a two-hour special, "The Hidden Epidemic: Heart Disease in America," devoted to the risk factors for heart disease discovered in the Framingham study. That abstinence from alcohol is among the major risk factors for heart disease seemingly could not be discussed. An excellent panel of five experts led by Larry King dealt with diet, sex, exercise, smoking -- just about everything that people do that impacts the health of their hearts. But alcohol was never mentioned.

Why not, do you think? Why wouldn't Larry ask the panelists about drinking and the heart, or why did none of them have the cojones to interrupt: "Larry, I really think we should discuss alcohol. Not smoking is the only behavior we have measured that reduces heart disease more -- including diet and exercise -- than does moderate drinking."

The ironic thing is that the major argument against the claim that regular drinking actually reduces heart disease and overall mortality is that drinkers may be healthier due to other factors, like higher incomes or other healthy behaviors. In the first place, research like the American Cancer Society study statistically control for extraneous lifestyle, economic, and other factors, so that social status can be eliminated as accounting for the drinking results. In addition, one Harvard Health Professionals study was limited to doctors who were all of normal weight, didn't smoke, exercised, and had good diets. In this otherwise healthy group, the same reduction in heart attacks was found among those who had one to two drinks daily.

But let's simply accept the "extraneous factors" critique at face value. What does it mean to say that moderate drinking is part of an overall healthy lifestyle that leads people to have less heart disease, live longer, and reduce their rates of dementia? It is certainly a different tune from the temperance chip so many Americans insist on replaying.

The three comments I included are all from frequent, popular commenters to a liberal Web publication whose readers one might think are more open than average Americans towards substance use. Obviously, this is not true of many HuffPost readers when it comes to alcohol. In the United States, the progressive movement was a primary impetus for Prohibition (think William Jennings Bryan), alongside the religious fundamentalism that is still so strong in our country. Together these remain powerful forces in the American outlook, which will always be uneasy with beverage alcohol, no matter what the data say.

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* Of course, these assertions refer to group averages, which is why large samples must be studied. The most typical comment, both in favor of -- and opposition to -- my post, begins something like, "My grandfather..." This information is obviously important and relevant to the writer, but it is not epidemiology.

 
 
 

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11:24 AM on 08/24/2010
Alcoholic beverages, maybe not a good idea. Here, http://bit.ly/bkqJoh a good explanation about what happens when you drink alcohol.
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10:26 AM on 08/23/2010
Nothing good ever happens as a result of drinking. Period! Nada! Zero! And even if one tinsy weensy benefit could be gleened from the midst of the horrible and tragic events resulting from the promotion off and use of alcohol it would be miniscule in comparison to the horrific damage alcohol has done and is doing to humanity.
04:32 PM on 08/23/2010
I think you're grouping "DRINKING" together with "HAVING A DRINK." Two totally separate things. True, drunks have caused and will cause harm to themselves and others. However, one could say more damage has been done to humanity through religion/intolerance and severe weather events.
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Stanton Peele
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02:13 AM on 09/02/2010
You two wrote your comments to prove the topic of my post, right?
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03:48 PM on 08/22/2010
Thank you very much for validating what I and my family have known for generations. I was allowed to drink alcohol...well, beer and wine... when I was young..... a drink here and there (don't care much for liquor though)..... and by the time I was 21, I could care less about catching a "buzz".... I liked the flavor of German, Polish and Checz beers...fine wines...and an occasional cocktail..... as do many members of my family. It really IS about the taste for me and I won't drink if an establishment doesn't have what I like.

Our religious right has villified drinking because it makes them act crazy.... like themselves if you will. Let's face it... alcohol IS a truth serum..... and releases us of inhibitions...... sometime good; sometimes bad.......but always bad to the church.... whose members of course drink regularly. Anything that makes you feel good is a sin in America. This forbidden fruit is what binge drinking is all about. Bingers come from households where parents have NOT taught their children the repercussions of drinking..... drinkers come from households that did and are often far more responsible when it comes to alcohol.

Drinkers are people who can handle their liquior, know when they shouldn't drive, know how to tell this should be their last one, but most of all..... don't become completely unlikable when they have a few.

GREAT ARTICLE. Thank you.
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09:57 AM on 08/22/2010
The so-called "progressive left" in America is actually a hot bed of puritanism - as much (and perhaps more) as the right. You can see that right here on these pages. Every so often, some born-again vegan (or porn star) will wax rapturous on her virtuous opinions and behaviors. A lot of so-called feminists have had puritanical fits about erotica, as well.

There's no doubt that any substance or behavior that lights up the brain's pleasure center is potentially addictive for some people some of the time. And there's no doubt that over-indulgence in anything - including water - can cause all sorts of problems.

Each person, ultimately, is responsible for deciding what he can and should enjoy in moderation - and where he should simply abstain. For some, that means no booze, for others it means no burgers and for others (perhaps) no porn.

The problem comes when you decide that your personal boundaries can and should be imposed upon the rest of us. The truth is that they shouldn't.

Just go live your own life, and the rest of us will do the same, thank you very much.
09:08 AM on 08/22/2010
Wittgenstein said, "Philosophy is after the fact, it's just the justification of a lifestyle." I am wondering: How much of the above article is a justification or vindication of the author's personal lifestyle? A person can choose any point of view, and usually chooses the most convenient.

The author says, "the United States has a strong anti-alcohol bias." The U.S. has many strong biases, in all directions, including in FAVOR of alcoholism, which is obviously much stronger than the anti-drinking bias. How many members of the U.S. Congress or Senate never touch the stuff? In TV, movies, novels—drinking to some degree or another is typically depicted as a standard feature of American culture. Why? Because it is a standard feature.

Almost half of the U.S. population is affected either directly or indirectly by alcoholism. (You, reading this, do you know an alcoholic—a neighbor, family member, co-worker? Most of us are connected to someone who's an alcoholic and it affects our life in a negative way.)

Don't forget about the numbers of people killed every year by drunk drivers. All of this is obvious and I find it rather shallow that anyone would defend drinking, except for the simple reason that they like to drink and are probably in some way addicted themselves. Addition works on many levels.
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11:09 PM on 08/21/2010
Something not in the article is whether it is safe and healthy for a person from a family with alcoholism to drink 1 or 2 drinks a day. Supposedly, they would not indulge in more drink as time goes by, but some people are at risk and unwittingly become alcoholic.
This is not a one-size-fits-all sort of thing.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
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07:03 PM on 08/20/2010
Great post. We live in a Puritan society for sure. I also think that moderate drinking can reduce stress and that, we all know, is a good thing.
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09:59 AM on 08/22/2010
Moderate drinking can reduce stress - and so can moderate Ben and Jerry's.
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07:01 PM on 08/20/2010
Alcohol does have some benefits for diabetic's recent research has found.....http://bit.ly/brypf9
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HerrMonk
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04:23 PM on 08/20/2010
Are we talking red-wine, or alcohol qua alcohol?

If it's the alcohol that's good for you, a shot of ever-clear ought to be part of the daily routine, like taking a vitamin.

I have the distinct feeling that it's not the alcohol in itself (or at least on its own) within the beverages that contributes to health benefits. Drinking bio-waste/almost ethanol in itself probably ain't healthy.
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Stanton Peele
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04:31 PM on 08/20/2010
You're going to have to read the article, buddy.
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HerrMonk
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04:42 PM on 08/20/2010
Your other article, or the NY Times article?

Didn't see any reference to the type of alcohol in either of your articles. Could just be my terrible reading comprehension.
02:45 AM on 08/23/2010
My grandfather began having angina and mild heart attacks in his early 50's. His doctor suggested a glass of wine with dinner. Being a scion of backwoods coal-miners, and a 30-year Navy retiree, he opted for a shot of bourbon rather than the effete glass of wine. He lived long enough to die of Parkinson's disease 30 years later instead. It's the alcohol.
09:09 AM on 08/20/2010
There are some abstainers or teetototallers including some religion followers who believe alcoholic consumption is insidious to one's health and negates the spiritual growth of those who partake of such.
As much as beliefs go, it could be okay for them, but for those who take their health seriously moderate consumption has its positive contribution as various Medical Journals have repeatedly stated, though not publicly supported by the Government. My thinking is that if Government should publicly support alcohol consumption no matter how subtle, the society may witness or experience a lot of illegalities being perpetrated by those whose reasoning of the issue is very low and casualities will increase, further extending the Government's purse which could have been used for other capital projects.
12:38 AM on 08/20/2010
I find this especially interesting in connection with the United States' aversion to pregnant women drinking at all when studies have shown no link between moderate drinking and birth defects. There seems to be a fear that if pregnant women are told a glass of wine at night will have no negative effect on the baby, legions of pregnant women will be unable to keep themselves from chugging a kegger. Check out this discussion: http://dovercanyon.typepad.com/women_wine_critics_board/2006/01/wine_and_pregna.html
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Stanton Peele
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04:32 PM on 08/20/2010
Exactly on point.
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wendy82551
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11:24 AM on 08/21/2010
This brings up such memories--20 years ago, my obstetrician said that a beer or a glass of wine at night would be good for me--help me relax, etc.--and would have no harm on the baby. However, he had to whisper, just in case his office was tapped by the Alcohol Police. Even then, waitresses thought it within their rights to pull a glass of wine out of the hands of a pregnant customer.
02:02 AM on 08/22/2010
Same here. My obstetrician told me to have a guinness or a glass of port every night. Not both, just one or the other. He wrote it on a prescription! Of course, like you, this was 20 and more years ago. And both children were classified as being intellectually "gifted" while at school and offered placement in special programs for gifted children....so clearly they did not suffer one iota from my nightly glass of port while I was pregnant.
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05:36 PM on 08/19/2010
Thanks for this article. I love my 2 glasses of wine per day. I haven't been sick in years and everyone is amazed when I tell them my age.
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05:23 AM on 08/20/2010
Amazed in a good way, I hope. :-)