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Stephen Herrington

Stephen Herrington

Posted: February 11, 2010 02:46 PM

Paul Ryan's Killing of Social Security and Medicare Will Never Fix the Deficit

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Paul Ryan (R-WI) proposes, in the quasi official GOP budget plan, to sunset Social Security and Medicare because they cost too much. Oh, and to cut taxes with the proviso that the CBO not score that as a loss in revenue. Brilliant. It is quasi official because it endorses policy that the Republicans align like baby goslings to their mama goose, but that they have learned better of than to reveal in public. The GOP has hated Social Security and Medicare from day one, they just know they can never be elected on a platform of destroying these very effective and popular programs. There is a lesson for Democrats in that.

"The promise of secure retirements is a 'hoax.' Taxes paid by workers are 'wasted' by the government rather than invested prudently. And 'the so-called reserve fund ... is no reserve at all' [because it contains nothing but government IOUs], said Republican presidential candidate Alf Landon in 1936."
-Steven Thomma, Knight Ridder Newspapers, reprinted; Seattle Times, Sunday, February 06, 2005

The GOP has been so enraptured by and has fantasized and even romanticized for so long abo the idea of destroying Social Security and Medicare that they have apparently switched off the part of their lizard brains that can calculate the outcome of doing so. No, I'm not talking about the outcome of starving seniors in emergency rooms that would follow. I'm talking about the fact that, in terms of budget deficits, it would accomplish nothing for the public to destroy these programs and, in that destroying, raise cost of living burdens for the public.

It would not, and could not, fix the budget deficit to shut down either of Medicare or Social Security. Why? Aren't these two programs the focus of future budgetary nightmares? Yes, they are, but shortfalls in their finance going forward are an issue entirely separate from the prospect of cutting the programs altogether.

To begin with, the Baby Boomers have paid for their Social Security benefits, courtesy of Reagan and Greenspan raising the payroll deductions to SSA and raising the age at which benefits start. They did this nearly thirty years ago, and Boomers have shouldered those payments for a working lifetime.

At this juncture, Social Security shortfalls may indeed loom as increasing the deficit. It in no way needs to have become such. The Reagan administration, and intervening administrations since, with the exception of Clinton, used the excess revenue stream from Social Security Trust Bonds, that money which was not paid out in current benefits, the "Surplus", to fund the operation of government. Reagan tax cuts for the rich were financed, in part, by the use of the Social Security Trust. Reagan, as a pure ideologue, might have actually believed that tax cuts could grow the economy to balance the budget and repay the SS Trust. But it is apparent that the Bush-era Republicans never had any intention of honoring the debt and contrived to disguise that they had always planned to default on that debt. Privatization was a red herring to focus attention away from the coming default and insolvency, robbery, of the Social Security Trust. There can be no other reason to propose such rank stupidity.

Clinton attempted to rectify the obvious robbery by balancing the budget and producing a small and growing surplus that would have allowed the Social Security Trust to be repaid. Bush 43 reversed the benefit of that effort and renewed the raiding of the Social Security fund for the benefit of the rich with renewed tax cuts.

Both of Social Security Trust Bonds and Treasury Bonds are solemn obligations of the government and must be honored. They are part of the National Debt, and, by statute, the Social Security Bonds have priority over the servicing of any other debt. If insolvent, the government will be obligated to borrow money to pay back the boomers for their loan of trillions to the government. If it does not, it will be the highly politically visible signal default of this nation on the most foresworn of defaults, that of abusing the power to tax to defraud the entire population for thirty or more years.

Medicare looms larger than Social Security as a deficit bomb because of burgeoning increases in cost of care, doubling in the last ten years with no plateau in sight. Social Security, according to the SS administration itself, could be made solvent by either of balancing the federal budget or eliminating the limit on compensation that is subject to SSA. Medicare is not so easy. Health care costs were not anticipated to rise as were Social Security costs. No steps at all were taken to address them in the recent past. Either of Medicare payroll tax increases in some form or cost controls of some form could have averted the Medicare crisis. It is upon us.

But to give up on these programs, to eliminate them, as Paul Ryan (R-WI) now suggests on behalf of his party, is simply a folly of the most imbecilic kind. Imagine, if Social Security and Medicare were curtailed, would the revenue for them stop being collected or be garnished into the general fund to reduce the deficit/debt?

Unfortunately for Republicans, their life long goal of eliminating Social Security and Medicare by impoverishing the government through debt will not work. It will be obvious to everyone that cutting benefits of either program and retaining the tax revenue stream to serve debt reduction will amount to a regressive tax increase. If you don't retain the tax revenue stream, then cutting these program will be absolutely, best case, deficit/debt neutral.

To the employer who ponies up half of the FICA, Social security and Medicare, payroll tax, it might be tempting to think that you would get to keep that money if Social Security and Medicare did not exist. The social truth is that if there were no Social Security and Medicare, employers and employees would be embroiled in an epic battle over the wage increases needed to replace that contribution. It has become a structural part of compensation, a far distant condition from when the bitching first began. It was an increase in cost when first passed. Now it is an inseperable cost. Not only would the battle be over the futures of the employee and employer, but over the certainty that the employee's parents would need to be supported by the employee in amounts enough to replace the absence of Social Security and Medicare. In other words, the functions of Social Security and Medicare cannot be made to go away, to anybody's benefit.

All this is predicated on the notion that Social Security and Medicare are a value for the money. The facts are plain. Social Security, by virtue of being the largest deferred income risk pool possible, can return 3 times as much to the participant as can any savings discipline. Social Security is the most secure guarantee of future income by far, its only real vulnerability being the rancor of Republicans. Medicare, by means of cost controls and the distribution of risk, is the best deal going in health care by a third. To scrap Medicare would mean loss of that price leverage and higher prices for seniors that will likely end up being passed on to the sandwich generation.

Vouchers for private insurance in lieu of Medicare are insane. If issued as a value for value replacement for Medicare they would instantly increase the federal deficit component for assistance to seniors by 30%, the cost advantage of Medicare over private plans. Anything less than full value would simply disproportionally shift the burden from government to a public already groaning under the weight of servicing medical profits. There are no net savings to the public here. Servicing private profit is no less onerous than taxes.

Medicare is the most difficult issue in that health care costs have outstripped inflation by 2-5 times. In order to anticipate Medicare solvency for the current workforce, Medicare payroll taxes could have to quadruple to anticipate the trending of medical costs. It is not the program that is at fault for this, it is the health care system. A witches brew of greed and technology may yet make it impossible to live as long as one can live by the growing price tag of that longevity exceeding anyone's reach. Our health care system has accomplished that for 44,000 people per year already. Health care reform and cost containment is the single most crucial thing that can be done to wrangle the deficit.

It is time, perhaps in light of the Republican budget agenda, to end the distinction between public and private liabilities. The net cost to the public for living is the net cost of consumption by the private citizen minus any benefit supplied by his/her government. If government can reduce the costs of living for the private citizen by efficiencies of scale and bargaining power, then it is incumbent on the government to do so. It is incumbent on government to do this so long as the price setting advantage in the private market for labor remains in the hands of an indifferent and greedy autocracy of the rich. Or, Das Kapital looms.

 
Paul Ryan (R-WI) proposes, in the quasi official GOP budget plan, to sunset Social Security and Medicare because they cost too much. Oh, and to cut taxes with the proviso that the CBO not score that ...
Paul Ryan (R-WI) proposes, in the quasi official GOP budget plan, to sunset Social Security and Medicare because they cost too much. Oh, and to cut taxes with the proviso that the CBO not score that ...
 
 
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12:42 PM on 02/26/2010
Obama had better hope this Paul Ryan does not run for POTUS in 2012. Ryan consistently out debates Obama at every step of the way. Each time, Ryan leaves Obama seething with anger.

Obama gets so angry that he cannot speak, especially without the teleprompter.
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Patrick Garcia
04:28 AM on 02/12/2010
The voters of this Jerk's District should Sunset him, sending him packing. When are the American Voters ever going to wake up and realize the Repugs sole goal is to destroy America's democracy and set up their own Facist State. This guy is absolutely pathetic. Who ever runs against him should continuely hammer this fact home among the voters, especially the elderly and disabled and their families.
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supersajin
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03:47 PM on 02/23/2010
Did this guy even read the CBO report? I did! And this plan does address our most pressing issues gets us out of debt in 80 years or so. Just like the GOP has had nothing to offer in the healthcare debate. the Dem's have nothing to offer in reducing our short/long term debt issues. Look people this will be painfull!! You can tax & spend your way out of a debi hole.
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Ryan Fisher
11:17 AM on 02/28/2010
It never ceases to amaze me. Where did all that debt come from in the first place? How Republicans continue to be seen as the party of fiscal conservation is beyond me. How quickly we forget the recklesss spending antics and subsequent massive increase to the national debt from Presidents Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Clinton is the only president in the last 30 years to exercise any sort of fiscal conservation whatsoever.

The plan, as always, is to cut taxes for the rich and privatize and deregulate as much as possible while remaining politically viable. That means no cuts to SS or Medicare. What we're left with is the mortgaging of our future by the right's answer to the so called "tax and spend" party, the "spend and spend" party.

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WillCooney
Democrat dagnabit! Now leave me alone!
03:17 AM on 02/12/2010
"Death Panels"? Cut off SS and Medicare to seniors and, you've set up death panels worse than anything Sarah Palin could imagine.
10:35 PM on 02/11/2010
Please get the word out to those you know that depend on these social programs. Don't let people vote for these evil Rethugs and find out about these plans when it's too late.

Here is Olberman talking about this.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#35339524
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Sweetbay
Centrist Socialist
05:58 PM on 02/11/2010
February 24th and 25th is stacking up to be an interesting week.

Please make sure the republicans in the room have plenty of volume on their microphones. I wouldn't want America to miss one word of their plan to further de$tr0y this nation.
05:01 PM on 02/11/2010
Would it improve the budget if we stopped paying social security to seniors who still work or have adequate savings through other retirement plans? I have relatives who collect social security, but also receive pension payments. They make more a month than I do working full time and I make a relatively good salary.

I am not advocating getting rid of social security in any way. It bothers me that some paint the program as getting something for nothing when people pay into it their entire life.
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purplet
09:51 AM on 02/12/2010
I am in housing - seniors need their social security- That's all some have- They are suffering as it is- every rent increase makes it harder for them to survive- A few yrs back rent in So Ca doubled and many seniors had to move - COuld you imagine if they had to use a voucher and deal directly with private insurance?

How about this lovely idea:
•Partial privatization of Social Security, with the federal government promising to cover stock-market losses, a feature that would have proved catastrophic with the Wall Street meltdown.
I can only hope that people will be paying attention-

As angry as you maybe withthe dems the Repub ideas are unacceptable unless your in the top income earners
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ilse
04:09 PM on 02/11/2010
Republicans trying to end social security and medicare. With elections coming up, I think the democrats need to publicize this as much as possible. Let the senior citizens and american people all know how the republicans want to help the american people. Great way to dig us into an even deeper hole, but that is the repubican way.
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deminmo
just looking for answers
03:23 PM on 02/11/2010
Local talk radio in my town buzzes with this. Most Conservative
listeners want these programs closed down, one younger host
says he does not want to pay for someone else to have Medicare
coverage and Social Security benefits. When asked who he would
pick to cut off, older Americans who have outlived their usefullness
or someone younger on disabliity who has an expensive medical
condition, and would he make the decision or let someone else
do the dirty work, he never answers. If you put Social
Security at the whim of Wall Street you end up with nothing. Stop
Medicare payments and millions die from lack of insurance. So,
guess we need a public option and opt-in/opt-out on SS.
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purplet
09:58 AM on 02/12/2010
$13 triilion are the estimate losses from Wall Street- in 2008- that was retirement funds and investments -Say what you will about Dem's being sellouts- The Repubs can't wait to give social security to Wall street- Dems have fought this - or medicare to Private insurance companies- Good luckif you vote in any more Repubs in Nov-