Are You Taking Notes Now, George?

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Update: Although he did cut in with some good questions, Stephanopoulos basically presided over a Clinton pep rally. None of the personal issues were raised and Clinton completely controlled the choreography. George was left sitting in his chair while Hillary paraded around the dais. It would be interesting to know what kind of deal ABC made to get counter-programming to Obama's appearance on NBC. Not surprisingly, Russert pounded on Rev. Wright.

Original Post: When he questions Hillary Clinton tomorrow on This Week, George Stephanopoulos could re-level the Democratic playing field somewhat from its present extreme tilt. Stephanopoulos helped create the imbalance when he questioned Barack Obama about his relationship with William Ayers and several other silly things at the ABC debate two weeks ago.

While Clinton and Saturday Night Live were cultivating the meme that the press was going easy on Obama, the truth is that Clinton was being afforded a wide zone of deference, almost regal deference. She may have gotten the first question in more debates, but they were not questions about her past associations or the secretive, vindictive culture in which she thrives.

How ironic then that Hillary was ready to pile on with details when Stephanopoulos, prompted by Sean Hannity, asked Obama about Ayers. Clinton jumped in with details about Ayers' activities, complete with the apparently erroneous implication that he caused deaths, and Obama's having served on a board with Ayers. Clinton was also tut-tuted about Rev. Wright ("You get to choose your pastor") and the San Francisco fundraiser comments ("I can see why people would be taken aback and offended").

Not only did she never join Obama in objecting to the cheap line of questioning, she enjoyed it and helped justify it with her usual claim that the GOP would be asking the same questions in the fall. And, surprise surprise, we learn that hatchet man Sidney Blumenfeld has been bombarding opinion makers with scummy e-mails about Obama, drawing on the same far-right sources that Clinton and Blumenfeld so derided during Monicagate, Travelgate, Whitewater, Paula Jones . . . but I am getting ahead of myself.

So why are we not hearing reporters ask the questions that the Republicans would be asking about Clinton in the fall. Clinton herself has acknowledged that it is a fertile field and almost wears the unanswered questions about her past as a badge of honor. The fact is that they have never been answered and the press has abetted the myth that they have been.

1. The Marc Rich pardon
As the end of the Clinton administration, the same administration for which Clinton is taking credit, Bill Clinton pardoned a fugitive financier named Marc Rich. According to Time magazine, "in 1983, Rich was indicted in federal court of evading more than $48 million in taxes. He was also charged with 51 counts of tax fraud and with running illegal oil deals with Iran during the hostage crisis." At least equivalent to Ayers on the lack of patriotism scale IMHO.

No plausible reason for the pardon was ever given, but, as Time reported, "Rich's socialite ex-wife has donated an estimated $1 million to Democratic causes, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton's successful Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library fund." When called before Congress, Denise Rich took the Fifth Amendment. The Clinton Library refuses to release its donor list.

On January 13, 2008, Tim Russert raised Rich on Meet the Press, but moved on after this interchange

SEN. CLINTON: No. I didn't know anything about that.
MR. RUSSERT: No one talked to you whatsoever?
SEN. CLINTON: No. No. Unh-unh.
MR. RUSSERT: His ex-wife gave $109,000 to your campaign.
SEN. CLINTON: Well, no one talked to me about it, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Nobody?
SEN. CLINTON: Nobody.

The pardons were after Monica, when Bill was presumably telling Hillary what was going on. In a sidelight, Hillary's brothers were accepting money to lobby for pardons. And Hillary did not know?

Come on George, ask for details about how this could happen. You of all people, know enough about the workings of the White House to be a knowledgeable inquisitor.

2. Clinton's past associations
As both Carl Bernstein and Tom Hayden have pointed out, Obama's cordial relationship with Professor Ayers pales in comparison with Clinton's far left associations. Don't get me wrong, I think that is fine, but Clinton should be asked to explain why her work in a Communist law firm, defending Bobby Seale and portraying police as pigs is irrelevant while Obama's relationship with his neighbor is worth exploring.

3. Travelgate
This was the controversy that inspired William Safire to write about the "sad realization that our First Lady--a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation--is a congenital liar." It also apparently contributed to the suicide death of Hillary's former law partner Vince Foster.

Shortly after Bill Clinton took office, seven employees of the White House Travel Office, which arranged travel for the press, were fired amidst hints of misconduct, and replaced by an agency run by Clinton friends and relatives from Arkansas. Also, an air charter company run by Clinton Hollywood friend Harry Thomason was said to be looking to replace the incumbent Airline of the Americas.

Over a series of investigations and trials, it developed that Hillary, who at first denied a significant role, had been very involved. Famously, a memo from White House director of administration David Watkins apparently to White House Chief of Staff Mack McLarty surfaced two years into the investigation that identified Hillary as the motivating force behind the firings, and said "we both know that there would be hell to pay" if "we failed to take swift and decisive action in conformity with the First Lady's wishes." The trial of the former travel office head ended in a quick acquittal.

Along the way, Hillary's statements evolved, although she characteristically could not remember key details, the Clinton administration went to the Supreme Court to block access to Vince Foster's notes and Bill Clinton claimed executive privilege to avoid revealing further documents to a House Committee.

George, this one is easy. You were the de facto press Secretary at the time.

4. Monica
This one is difficult for everyone. Personally difficult for Hillary, but also politically difficult for those of us who stood by the Clintons during the misguided impeachment and trial and saw the final four years of opportunity go down the drain. Until he testified to a Grand Jury and gave his churlish speech to the nation on August 17, 1998, Bill Clinton had denied all of the nine sexual encounters between 1995 and 1997 alleged by Monica Lewinsky. Hillary has said that until Bill told her the truth on August 16th, she had believed his denials. If so, she was the only person (other than maybe spinmeister Lanny Davis) who did.

Let's give her a pass about not being aware of the philandering, but why did she believe Bill until the end? What does this say about her ability to tell fact from fiction? Can we trust her to know when a world leader is bluffing?

The GOP is going to bring this up. So should you George. Are you taking notes?

 
 

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Well, I seen a interview Of Monica Lewinskie, she was asked who sho going to vote for? She told the interviewer, she'd vote for Hillary.
Then when ask why?
She stated that her and Hillary, seem to have the same taste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 05/07/2008

If Bill becomes First Lady, can they keep him away from the interns?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 05/06/2008

I loved how she said she would not release the donor list until after she's elected, and that she doesn't know anything about how the donor list has been sold. Stay tuned... More shadiness and sanctimonious deceit to come...

Hey MSM -- how about asking her about this stuff more often???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 05/05/2008

I guess Boy George got the checks. Or he's afraid of being called Judas and having James Carville beat him up. Now I know what ABC stands for. All Bow to Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 05/05/2008

Why was Hilary Clinton standing up throughout the questioning? l thought her pant suit was on fire until l realized that it is her way to pander to the voters. it was all staged for Hilary, ABC news is a joke, so is faux news!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 05/05/2008

All corporate owned, ie: mainstream media) is a joke. They should all be ashamed of themselves but the elite don't feel shame, do they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 05/05/2008

All Clinton's haters hate them for a reason. This article said it all about the unfairness treatment of Obama. Whatever dirts they dug about him were about other people, not himself, then about such things that Obama didn't have control over. But for the Clintons, their control and manipulation about their onw scandals were clear, yet no one, no media says anything! Whatever has become of our society that we could ignore such blatant disintegrity and immorality?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 05/05/2008

I'll have to ask George S. what it's like to sell your soul...does it hurt? If not, can you tell when it leaves? How much does a soul go for now and days? Can he retire on that soul? Is he jealous of people who still have their souls? Is it like a pawn shop, can you ever buy your soul back?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 05/05/2008

And you and all the other Clinton haters get a blog to air out your personal vendetta. Courtesy of a former right winger, a Reagan lover and a friend of Newts, this blog is all about Hillary Hate, personal attacks.
I imagine you wanted some job you did not get, like Matthews and ever since have been fomenting personal anger and hatred. And now, lucky you, former neocon Arianna gives you a place to throw your temper tantrum with an audience rich with kids who love the hate game, the Obama lovers have turned this primary into.

Enjoy but remember not everyone is buying the personal vendetta crap sold by people like you and Chris Matthews. And few of us think we need to purify the democratic party with vilification and sacrificing our own. Some of us think the tyranny of the left is every bit as frightening as the tyranny of the right. You hate the Clintons. Nuff said. You got a place to continue the slander. Speaks volumes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 05/05/2008

Did you get lost on your way to Taylor Marsh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 05/05/2008

since no one's asking, you can find more info about Hillary's religious affiliations here

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 05/05/2008

I suspect Georgie handed over his dignity, integrity and cajones to The Clintons long ago.

I see a lot of that mentality with The Clinton Camp:

either you're with us ... or you're dead to us

You owe us. We made you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 05/05/2008

It is impossible to avoid the conclusion that ABC and Stephanopoulos are clinton partisans. Basic professional integrity would have led them to avoid creating the appearance of a conflict. Objectivity, even as an elusive goal, is no longer a core principle of our once-great media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 05/05/2008

Hillary did well, all day long. I am proud of her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 05/05/2008

I am a white woman and I will never vote for her. Not because she is a woman but because she's wrong for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 05/05/2008

Most of us went right to Russert--

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 05/04/2008

I watched as much as I could take ... infommercial format and pretty much the same level of journalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 05/04/2008

George probably has dirty hands in some of this. This is why it is an UTTER SHAM he is even interviewing her in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 05/04/2008

I too watched Obama on Meet The Press...did not waste my time with Hil-LIARy and george's lovefest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/04/2008

Everyone knew ABC and Georgie were hosting an infomercial for Hillary. I saw Obama's interview with Russert and he did a brilliant job, serious, smart and the gas tax discussion was especially excellent. That this country could lose Obama is as good a demonstration of bad choices as electing Bush twice and considering bringing in the wife of an impeached president who admits "misremembering" the same way her husband did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 05/04/2008

Tim asked questions and got answers.

George sat in on a stump speach of Hilary's.

And so it goes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 05/04/2008

Senator Barack had the same amount of time on Meet the Press. I watched it and was impressed with the way he answered the questions on Reverend Wright. I think we should all forget that and discuss the issues that matter to the American people now.
I was also impressed that Senator Obama, unlike his supporters, stated that he would support Senator Clinton if she were declared the nominee by the superdelegates.

MR. RUSSERT: If the superdelegates got together, the undecided superdelegates and said, "You know, Senator Obama, we think that Hillary Clinton is a stronger candidate against John McCain. Here are the latest polls in the swing states, the overall national polls. You've run a wonderful race, but we're going to go with Senator Clinton as our nominee," what would you do?
SEN. OBAMA: I don't think that's going to happen. I--let, let me say at the outset, I want a Democrat to win in November, so even if Senator Clinton were the nominee instead of me, I would still be campaigning for Democrats.
MR. RUSSERT: But do the superdelegates have the right to override, in effect, the decision of the elected delegates?
SEN. OBAMA: I, I think the superdelegates, by rule, can make their own decision.
MR. RUSSERT: And if the superdelegates decide otherwise, you will abide by it.
SEN. OBAMA: Well, you know, as, as I said, I'm committed to making sure Democrats win in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/04/2008

Just as long as it isn't as her VP. Giving a couple of speeches on her behalf (the ones she insults) is a lot different than bringing in the half of the country she's insulted for supporting him. Too late now, a lot of people will just wait to support him in a later election should she get the nomination by her rule or ruin methods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 05/05/2008

I'm an Obama fan and I hated the ABC debate and particularly George's questions, but...

I thought he did well today. It's true he didn't skewer here on personal stuff, but we Obamites have to ask, what would Barack do. In the debate, after getting bludgeoned with Wright and Flag Pin questions, Barack had the chance to score points on the Bosnia story and he took the high road.

Without focusing on personal trivia and old history, George did a credible job this morning of asking Hillary serious questions and giving tough follow-ups. I thought he did a good job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 05/04/2008

I think it's a sad day when we have to vet our candidates based on some of this stuff, but I'm glad you brought the discrepancy to our attention. The vast darkness of Hillary's "baggage" has barely been tapped. What little there is on Obama has been like a well-gnawed bone to the media dogs. They'll worry every last little piece of flesh off it and then try to get to the marrow, but it's still the same old bone. Hillary has entire skeletons in her spacious walk-in closet, hidden amongst her many pantsuits and pairs of shoes.

The conflict of interest in Stephanopoulos conducting the debate and this interview is not lost on a majority of us. Shame on you, George.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 05/04/2008

Unfortunately I'm sure it was lost on the vast majority of Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 05/04/2008

Mommy showed little Georgie how to be a man today. So Carville is a little off. The reason she has more than two is she has Stephanopoulos'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 05/04/2008

I can't understand why PBS doesn't pull a coup de grace over media in this country. All they'd have to do is go full-time cable as PBS News.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 05/04/2008

I caught as much as I could bear to watch of McLaughlin Group on my PBS Station yesterdeay.
Pat Buchanan was there, too, outraged about "that Weatherman Bomber Friend of his [Obama's}"

I turned the television off immediately.

I will give Jim Lehrer a chance this evening. MSNBC has become the All Jeremiah Wright Channel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 05/05/2008

why can't george by unbiased, like keith olbermann for example. hahahahahahaha silly obamaites and their crying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 05/04/2008


What about her recent claim she pays off her credit cards every month, yet her campaign is millions in debt?

Too simple?

What about her initial support for Bush's "harsh interrogations"?
What about "rendition" starting during her hubby's term?
Her vote for the bankruptcy bill?
Her insistence that taking lobbyist and PAC money is good while claiming to be "progressive"?

Most important of all, shouldn't ONE journalist bring up the DLC and how they influenced policy in the Democratic party?

Jeez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 05/04/2008
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