More

Featuring fresh takes and real-time analysis from HuffPost's signature lineup of contributors
Stephen P. Cohen

Stephen P. Cohen

Posted: March 11, 2010 05:43 PM

A Resoundingly Ill-Timed Accident in Jerusalem?

What's Your Reaction:

Israel's announcement of a new or renewed massive building project in East Jerusalem occurred earlier on the same day that Vice President Joseph Biden was to meet with the Israeli president and prime minister. This synchronicity can in no way be dismissed as happenstance or as a resoundingly bad-timing accident. It was intentional, and it was intended to deflate the significance of discussions with a man who has long been the most uncompromising pro-Israel figure in the Obama administration and one of the staunchest supporters of Israel in the Democratic Party and in the United States Congress.

What were they thinking?

I do not believe that Prime Minister Netanyahu wanted to stick his thumb in Biden's eye; however, I do believe that this incident shows that what Netanyahu wants is not necessarily decisive for some of his most important ministers. Netanyahu understands that he must work with President Obama on advancing the negotiations with the Palestinians. He would privately admit that he even wants these negotiations to avert his second term as prime minister ending with the same sense of abject failure as his first.

Nevertheless, Israeli Ministers Yishai and Lieberman are determined to prevent a revival of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, even though Netanyahu must realize at this point that he can no longer be passive and permissive about the actions and decisions of his more extreme ministers. If he remains silent and inactive in face of these actions, he will have forfeited his leadership. In addition, it would then no longer be reasonable for the United States to adhere to its policy that it must work with Netanyahu, rather than look to the realignment of his government or simply await his fall from power.

When the Israeli government alienates such an unflinching friend and ally as Vice President Biden, it strongly suggests that there is an element in Israel that cannot abide the desire of most Israelis and most American Jews for Israel to be a full member in good standing of the Western alliance and a respected state in the family of nations. That element would prefer to see an Israel that stands defiantly alone. It wants to defeat the majority consciousness that seeks a place of pride and independence for Israel and to replace it with a counter-dependent Israel that will never be attracted to agreeing to anything that is initiated from outside its narrowly-defined cognitive boundary. Any such agreement, even with friends, smells too much like assimilation and arouses anachronistic fears of loss of identity through becoming close to anyone outside or inculcating outsider ideas.

Theodor Herzl Zionism explicitly rejected such fears by espousing the idea that an independent, sovereign Jewish state could live as an equal with other sovereign states, including those most advanced in science and freedom of thought. This Jewish state would no longer need to fear that the other states might became hostile to Jewish aspirations or might overwhelm Jewish culture, religion, and political independence.

Prime Minister Netanyahu in the last weeks, beginning with his surprising speech at the Herzliya conference, set out to show that he was committed to strengthening Israeli nationalist consciousness while moving towards peace with the Palestinians and with the Arab world.

Some of his ministers are distorting his meaning by conflating strengthening national consciousness with a radical isolationism. They manifest a fear that Israel's identity would be lost by conducting peaceful relations not only with Israel's own regional environment, but with democratic countries abroad, even with those that have been most important to the emergence of the State of Israel, its military strength and its security in the community of nations.

Netanyahu must show unequivocally that this is not what he intended. He must assert his leadership by demonstrating in word and deed that the pursuit of peace and the strengthening of national consciousness are not simply consistent, but are mutually necessary.


Stephen P. Cohen, president of the Institute for Middle East Peace and Development, is the author of Beyond America's Grasp: A Century of Failed Diplomacy in the Middle East.

 
Israel's announcement of a new or renewed massive building project in East Jerusalem occurred earlier on the same day that Vice President Joseph Biden was to meet with the Israeli president and prime ...
Israel's announcement of a new or renewed massive building project in East Jerusalem occurred earlier on the same day that Vice President Joseph Biden was to meet with the Israeli president and prime ...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 66
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2  Next ›  Last »  (2 total)
04:14 PM on 03/14/2010
I didn't read one solution to the mess among the reponses. I don't like bullies; so I have to stand with the Israelis. The arab world has lost its respectability as it stands by and allows the Israeli thing and the islamist terrorist thing. Always stay with the gurl ya brought to the dance.
01:53 AM on 03/15/2010
danshanteal writes: "I don't like bullies; so I have to stand with the Israelis."

Really?

The rest of the post puzzles me.
Who needs the advice about "the gurl ya brought to the dance"?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
09:38 AM on 03/12/2010
so then the future intent will be.....We will wait until your on the plane then stab you in the back.

Zionists are experts at propaganda, disinformation, denying facts and outright lying. Any criticism of Zionism or of Israel is labelled as "anti-semitism", where this is interpreted to mean "anti-Jewish". This is a slanderous falsehood. Criticism of Zionism is criticism of a particularly ugly political movement, not criticism of a religion or of the adherents of a religion. One may be critical of Zionism and of Zionists while at the same time being quite tolerant of, or well-disposed toward, or even an adherent of, the Jewish religion (as we see from the websites cited above).

Whether one approves of or dislikes the beliefs and practices of Judaism it remains that Jews have a right to hold those beliefs and maintain those practices. No-one, however, Jewish or non-Jewish, has a right to drive out people from their homes on land where they and their forebears have been living for centuries, to deprive people of their human rights, to cripple their society and to damage the welfare of others by a parasitic subversion of the government of another country for base political purposes, which is what Zionists have done and continue to do.
10:14 AM on 03/12/2010
Yes, that's right, lump all Jews who believe that Jews who have a right to live in peace and security in defined borders as "experts at propaganda, disinformation, denying facts and outright lying." I am a Zionist but I also do not support the current Israeli governent or its policies. Am I a liar too and an expert at disinformation?

Basically, what you are saying is that you will let Jews survive if they just be nice, meek people and go back to Germany or Poland. Your use of the term "parasitic" is generally a tip off of someone who revels in anti-semitic myths. Covering your tracks by trying to separate Judaism from Zionism won't work.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
12:44 PM on 03/12/2010
So the Israel has the right to live with their foot on the neck of the Palestine? I think not.
06:36 PM on 03/12/2010
If Israel is willing to define it borders.
If Palestinians get a state of whose borders are under their own control and include frontiers with other nations than Israel itself.
If Palestinians have the right to "right to live in peace and security", the right to make alliances with other nations than Israel and the right to self-defence,(not defence of Israel.)
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
08:52 AM on 03/12/2010
......................IS this what the USA and Britain supports...................................

It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ShinjiIkari
Do you understand how stupid it is to be afraid?
08:29 AM on 03/12/2010
"there is an element in Israel that cannot abide the desire of most Israelis and most American Jews for Israel to be a full member in good standing of the Western alliance and a respected state in the family of nations. That element would prefer to see an Israel that stands defiantly alone. It wants to defeat the majority consciousness that seeks a place of pride and independence for Israel and to replace it with a counter-dependent Israel that will never be attracted to agreeing to anything that is initiated from outside its narrowly-defined cognitive boundary. "

In short, hard-line Israeli want to kill hard-line Palestinians, who want to kill hard-line Israeli...

A Plague on both their Houses!
10:14 AM on 03/12/2010
ShinjiIkari,

How did you manage to drag the Palestinians into what is clearly a uniquely Israeli phenomenon?

Can you defend your comment?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
courtb
03:38 PM on 03/12/2010
You are seriously denying there are fanatics and hardliners on both sides? Really?
07:25 AM on 03/12/2010
"the incessant bleating of blatant agendas" is correct.

We could probably pull the comments from all the posts written about Israel for the past, oh say five years or so, and plug them in this thread, change a word or date here and there, and we'd have the same comments.
08:25 AM on 03/12/2010
Then why are you here?
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Wisdo
semantics shamantics
07:18 AM on 03/12/2010
In further ill timed shenaniogans Israel seals off the West Bank

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/03/12/israel.palestinians/
07:55 AM on 03/12/2010
I will take sealing off the west bank to dealing with Palestinian riots anytime.
08:12 AM on 03/12/2010
Those were not riots--they were protests until they were violently put down.
08:47 AM on 03/12/2010
Thank you, JerryLevy, for your totally unbiased reportage.
Have you any idea about the meaning of words?
Is it deliberate, or abject ignorance?
08:43 AM on 03/12/2010
I noted in the CNN report that the "settlement" units were to be built on "disputed land -- claimed both by Israel and Palestinians". As if any claim made by Israel, however bogus, changes the legal status of Jerusalem.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
09:40 AM on 03/12/2010
Ha....a moment of truth...Theou.......fanned
07:08 AM on 03/12/2010
and what about this one . . ill-timed or just standard israeli procedure/

UN humanitarian chief criticises Israel over Gaza

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8563569.stm
07:18 AM on 03/12/2010
They don't give the tiniest crud about what anyone thinks.
07:35 AM on 03/12/2010
I know . .they just want money and the unconditional support of the US government . . .
04:59 PM on 03/12/2010
Great link Macready.
photo
SparkyDash
Save a pretzel for the gas jets.
06:41 AM on 03/12/2010
Mr. Cohen, thank you for a good article. Hearing what VP Biden said away from the lurking microphones and cameras was typical Biden: honest and strong. That's what I wanted to hear.

I also came to your blog to get away from the bleating on the general HP post of Mr. Biden's visit. The blatant agendas for and against Israel are loud and distracting and serve no purpose for me...it is the same story and same argument.

Your words, Mr. Cohen: "When the Israeli government alienates such an unflinching friend and ally as Vice President Biden, it strongly suggests that there is an element in Israel that cannot abide the desire of most Israelis and most American Jews for Israel to be a full member in good standing of the Western alliance and a respected state in the family of nations." are interesting and educated. Your post worth a read by many.

Thank you.
07:26 AM on 03/12/2010
fanned and faved. breath of fresh air today
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Nym22
12:01 PM on 03/12/2010
A post with some substance on an otherwise lackluster board. Well done, SparkyDash.
05:05 AM on 03/12/2010
America must stop funding israel . . . and force israel to abide by UN resolutions . . . israel breaks international law on a daily basis . . .says it does not recognise it . . . its Berlin-style wall and ghettoisation of the Palestinians . . . is horrific . . it even refuses to have a hospital for sick children built in Gaza . . . israel refuses to disclose its nuclear arsenal . . the list of israel's crimes is huge and continues to grow . . . israel must go back to its pre-war 1967 boundaries . . it has always know this . .but nevertheless continues to steal Palestinian land and water and wage war against them . . .

the only solution is UN sanctions, trade embargoes, freezing of israel assets and America has to stop offering israel an umbrella to shield it from taking responsibility for its crimes . . in short it is more than just the lieberman element . . this has been going on for 42 years . . .
05:33 AM on 03/12/2010
THANK YOU!
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Fireslayer
03:15 AM on 03/12/2010
It is a disgrace that the United States is the shameless punk of the right wing element that rules Israel.

America needs to wake up, regain its pride and stop all funding for Israel.

It makes as complicit in their land grabs and crimes against humanity.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Nym22
12:03 PM on 03/12/2010
I'd add that the left and centrist Israelis need to wake up and take power back from these right wingers. The Labor party is in shambles, and that doesn't bode well for peace.
12:12 PM on 03/12/2010
Right you are.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Talossa
Not all liberals are silly.
10:02 PM on 03/13/2010
Kadima holds many of the cards, and even Netanyahu has made noises about forming a coalition with Kadima if the monster religious loony parties demand too much. It may just be talk to keep them in line, but we can hope it's more than that.
01:47 AM on 03/12/2010
Some posters here would have us believe that suicide bombings occur daily in Israel. There have been two such attacks in the last three years. How many thousands of high explosive bombs and missiles have been rained on the Palestinians in the last three years.

And please don't compare them to the primitive unguided homemade rockets fired into Israel that kill so few and do so little damage. Proportionality does matter.

This not is self defense on Israels part it is war crimes.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
courtb
04:26 AM on 03/12/2010
Proportionality matters? How do you even measure that? Rocket per rocket? Would you support shooting those "primitive unguided homemade rockets" into Gaza? Probably not because they'd hurt and kill many people as the Palestinians don't have bomb shelters in every house and school like Israelis do. There is a reason that they don't do as much damage as I'm sure Hamas wishes...doesn't make them any less potentially lethal nor does it excuse the murderous intent behind it.

Hmm, maybe that would work on shutting people like you up. I've seen those rockets in person and sure as heck wouldn't want one of those to hit my house with me in it...
11:38 AM on 03/12/2010
Have you been to Gaza?
02:24 PM on 03/12/2010
"Hmm, maybe that would work on shutting people like you up. I've seen those rockets in person and sure as heck wouldn't want one of those to hit my house with me in it..."

Did it ever occur to you that having a block-buster bomb dropped on your house, with you in it and fifteen other people with you, might be a little disturbing?

Or are you so self-centered that what happens to "others" is of no interest to you?
Your ability to empathize reaches only those with whom you feel identified, it in no way resembles a fully humane view point.
12:43 AM on 03/12/2010
"This is starting to get dangerous for us."
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
11:23 PM on 03/11/2010
Neither Bibi nor any other alleged leader in Israel has the military power and the political will to change the deadly path Israel is on to its eventual doom. Sure Israel can defy the world today, but it will not be able to do that forever.

There is no one in Israel that can empty the west bank of 500,000 land squatters and unless they are gone, eventually Israel will find itself in a war against the world and the US will be unable (or unwilling) to help Israel.

I know how this will end and I am deeply saddened that Israelis have written their own doom with their actions. The Arabs are willing to let Israel exist, but Israel MUST atone for its many past sins and no one in Israel even understands just how badly they have sinned, let alone be willing to atone.

Anyone with an understanding of the flow of history and human nature knows that Israel will lose everything in the end if it stays on the current path, but it is obvious that Israel will stay on the path of doom.

Such a waste of so many humans lives.
11:38 PM on 03/11/2010
I have an intimate knowledge of Israelis and I agree completely. So sad; there is so much about Israel that is beautiful and special, but their arrogance and lack of humility dooms them.
05:46 AM on 03/12/2010
Very well put! I've also been to Israel and it's hard to reconcile some of the great things against this awful aggression and dismissiveness of international law.
photo
califlefty
Fighting back against the lies
01:54 AM on 03/12/2010
Try envisioning those 500,000 "squatters" as Jewish citizens of Palestine. Too democratic?
05:39 AM on 03/12/2010
They are a wealthy and prosperous nation. They can make it work. Moving 500,000 settlers would not reduce them to the cramped conditions that exist in Gaza. Seriously, they can move. If they don't peace is doomed and so are they, and maybe us too. They can move, they just won't.
05:46 AM on 03/12/2010
Great! Let them be citizens of a democratic Palestine.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
lbsaltzman
Permaculture and Sustainability
08:36 PM on 03/11/2010
Israel is out of control and we should be cutting our ties with them. No money without serious peace talks and an end to the occupation.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
courtb
08:13 PM on 03/11/2010
Mr. Cohen, do you think Bibi has the political strength to act like a leader right now?